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  • CurrentlySober
    Too lazy to wipe my ass
    • Aug 2002
    • 38977

    #51
    i like poo
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    • CurrentlySober
      Too lazy to wipe my ass
      • Aug 2002
      • 38977

      #52
      i like poo
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      • CurrentlySober
        Too lazy to wipe my ass
        • Aug 2002
        • 38977

        #53
        i like poo
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        • »Rob Content«
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          • Dec 2006
          • 4348

          #54
          There goes 3 of the most informative posts in GFY history...

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          • RawAlex
            So Fucking Banned
            • Oct 2003
            • 9465

            #55
            bot gone wild.

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            • Aussie Rebel
              Blow Me U Geeks
              • Aug 2001
              • 5108

              #56
              Originally posted by VG.Content
              There goes 3 of the most informative posts in GFY history...
              I dunno why gfy doest ban all the bots it might even speed the board up abit,

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              • Brujah
                Beer Money Baron
                • Jan 2001
                • 22157

                #57
                Have you ever read ASACP's Code of Ethics for their sponsors?

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                • RawAlex
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 9465

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Brujah
                  Have you ever read ASACP's Code of Ethics for their sponsors?
                  Codes of ethic pages are like affiliate terms and conditions. If nobody enforces them, they are just wasted bytes.

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                  • »Rob Content«
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 4348

                    #59
                    Originally posted by RawAlex
                    Codes of ethic pages are like affiliate terms and conditions. If nobody enforces them, they are just wasted bytes.
                    I've found most companies do not even know half of what's in their TOS.

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                    • D
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 7412

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Brujah
                      Have you ever read ASACP's Code of Ethics for their sponsors?
                      It seems there's a lot of wiggle room in the application process. They only suggest you adhere to them when signing up, and, in fact, don't even mention them as a suggestion for "Adults Sites" or "Adult Dating Sites" in their "Best Practices."

                      http://www.asacp.org/best_practices.php
                      -D.
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                      • Brujah
                        Beer Money Baron
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 22157

                        #61
                        D, all the reason things like this will make ASACP irrelevant and some family values group will use their bedfellows against them without much difficulty. They may be seen as existing for the purpose of getting paid or payoffs and unnecessary while CyberTipline.com exists.

                        ASACP is aware that their sponsors fund sites on whose pages that CP is also distributed. They (AFF) have acknowledged as such right here on this forum. Their response was that they are working on a plan of action, so that they can continue to sponsor these sites while just not appearing on pages that contain CP. Isn't that incredible? The appropriate action you would think would be to act swiftly and distance themself from these sites who are in violation of their "code of ethics." Obviously, money is the primary factor and CP distribution and association with is secondary or worse.

                        This is the ASACP of 2007. Quite different I assume from the ASACP in previous years.

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                        • RawAlex
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 9465

                          #62
                          Brujah, when they changed what their name meant, ASACP went from being a focused group with a real goal to a straight up political vehicle for a select few people.

                          Apparently those making the donations can also have policy adjusted to suite them. The old ASACP would have had nothing to do with a company that has obviously connections to those who willingly distribute all sorts of illegal and pirated material, including CP.

                          Then again, the FSC is forming up a piracy group, not more than a couple of weeks after Lars set up a matching funds donation deal with them. I am impressed at what appears from the outside to be his attempts to buy the agenda of the adult business.

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                          • Aussie Rebel
                            Blow Me U Geeks
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 5108

                            #63
                            Originally posted by TampaToker
                            I dont care what anyone says there is a conflict of interest on this issue
                            I agree.....

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                            • DWB
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 31779

                              #64
                              Originally posted by G-Rotica
                              If they are advertising on a site that traffics in CP, I'd have to say they are associated.
                              I would have to concur with that.

                              If your site is showing up ANYWHERE next to CP, and you know it and do nothing about it, you are GUILTY of associating and/or supporting CP.

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                              • V_RocKs
                                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 32451

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Jet
                                this doesnt mean AFF is associated with CP

                                are you really this stupid?
                                Are you a tool?

                                It actually does mean they condone it. It is also why a mainstream business would call us shady. Any mainstream business would NEVER allow this to happen and if they did and it became front page news they would fire the guy who allowed it to happen.

                                If you are going to call me an idiot that is just fine with me BTW.

                                You are a fucking tool for doing so (in advance).

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                                • »Rob Content«
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2006
                                  • 4348

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                  Are you a tool?

                                  It actually does mean they condone it. It is also why a mainstream business would call us shady. Any mainstream business would NEVER allow this to happen and if they did and it became front page news they would fire the guy who allowed it to happen.

                                  If you are going to call me an idiot that is just fine with me BTW.

                                  You are a fucking tool for doing so (in advance).
                                  Don't even bother with that fool, he's obviously a fake nick. A name created in 02 and did not post until recently, 90% of his posts are in content threads. Fucking pointless and useless.

                                  I love the broish attitude when people make a comment like this jet dude, and fucking Baddogg who come in make a comment and then never come back and say anything else. It's amazing.

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                                  • »Rob Content«
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                                    • Dec 2006
                                    • 4348

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by VG.Content
                                    Tim posted in a thread before their stance, and said they had a Zero Tolerance policy.

                                    But, if I go to piratebay, or torrentz I can find CP, and I also see AFF banners there.

                                    Here is how it works for those who are slow.

                                    AFF banner on torrent site, CP on same page.

                                    Surfer clicks AFF banner, joins AFF. The torrent site and AFF make money from this sale.

                                    Torrent site as the affiliate, and AFF as the site owner. Keep in mind this person was on a page where you can download CP.

                                    AFF then takes money from their bank account and makes a donation to ASACP.

                                    How is this ZERO tolerance?
                                    In case you did not read page one make sure to read this.

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                                    • »Rob Content«
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                                      • Dec 2006
                                      • 4348

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by VG.Content
                                      For starters these were available to download when AFF announced that it was now working with ASACP, and they are still there today.

                                      Cute_15_Year_Old_jacking_off_her_Daddy_zip
                                      Fucking_my_little_sis_in_the_ass_illegal_preteen_u underage_lolita_kiddy_child_incest_xxx_porno_gay_f u fuck_young_naked_nude_little_g_rar
                                      14_Year_Old_Nude_ANAL
                                      Under_age_small_girl_showing_pussy_illegal.rar
                                      prepuberty_underage_masturbation_video.mpg
                                      15_year_OLD_rape_anal_forcedbj_blowjob.mwv
                                      2_13_Year_Old_Forced_Lesbian_Sex.mpg

                                      There are two separate AFF on banners on this page, which people click and they make money from.

                                      Now let's go to torrentz.com and we will directly search "child porn" yes these links were submitted to ASACP months ago, they are still online, yes they were sent to abuse on the torrent site and nothing happened.

                                      http://torrentz.com/search?q=child+porn&x=0&y=0

                                      Let's look at some of the videos available. "these are the tag lines to entice people to download the videos" Top of the page AFF, the right side of the page AFF yet again.

                                      Young child pussy movie collection no fake
                                      Child pporn Copy of Cute Lolita 16 Year Old Being
                                      Horny Old Man Fucks His Deaf Grandchild
                                      Teenage Boy s Fantasy (Incest, Rape, Child Porn
                                      Father rapes his daughter in his truck

                                      Now on torrentz.com again under the search term "underage" yes these links were submitted to ASACP months ago, they are still online, yes they were sent to abuse on the torrent site and nothing happened.

                                      Let's look at some of the videos available. "these are the tag lines to entice people to download the videos" Top of the page AFF, the right side of the page AFF yet again.

                                      http://torrentz.com/search?x=0&y=0&q=underage

                                      Illegal Video Of Underage Students Having Sex
                                      R@Ygold Very young underage girl with small budding breasts
                                      Gothic Teen Takes The Fuck Of Her Underage Life
                                      underage nadia sexy model part2
                                      Fucking my little sis in the ass(illegal_preteen_underage
                                      WARNING 5 Underage Girls ILLEGALLY Underage Videos
                                      EXTREMELY Underage Girl Fingering On Camera.
                                      Adult Disturbing Sex Video Reveals Underage Teenage Sex
                                      Illegal Underage Girl Gives Bartender Blowjob And Screws
                                      Underage rimjob 9 year old girl
                                      WARNING Illegal UnderAge Teen Porn
                                      Disgusting Underage Girls Turn Lesbian
                                      NEW Nastiest Underage Teen Anal You Will Ever See
                                      Underage Girls Caught On Camera WARNING Extremely Young Girl
                                      DISGUSTING Underage Girl Masterbating Not Even 14
                                      Underage Chicks On Webcam
                                      NEW Nastiest Underage Teen Anal You Will Ever See
                                      Underage small girl showing pussy

                                      Now on torrentz.com under the search term 13 year old yes these links were submitted to ASACP months ago, they are still online, yes they were sent to abuse on the torrent site and nothing happened.

                                      Let's look at some of the videos available. "these are the tag lines to entice people to download the videos" Top of the page AFF, the right side of the page AFF yet again.

                                      http://torrentz.com/search?x=0&y=0&q=13+year+old

                                      13 Year Old Japanese Girl Brutally Raped By Two Guys DISGUTSTING PORN
                                      13 Year Old Preteen Nude
                                      13 Year Old Nude Upskirts Pictures
                                      Hot Young 13 Years Old Girls Nude
                                      13 years old hard fucking
                                      13year old blow job caught on tape
                                      Hot Young 13 Year Old Girls Nude
                                      dog sex with 13year old.
                                      XxX 12 Year OLD TeenY GeT FuckeD XxX

                                      These are only a few of the search terms on only one torrent site, you can search 11 year old, 12 year old, 10 year old, 9 year old, preteen, underage teen, teen sex, child sex, and a variety of other search terms.

                                      On EVERY SINGLE page you will find at minimum 2 or more AFF banners. Anyone who clicks these banners and buys a membership to AFF makes AFF money. AFF then takes this money and gives it to the ASACP. Do you see the issue?

                                      ASACP said they have a ZERO tolerance policy, if i go to a page with these terms on them, and these videos and then click any of the VERY large banners on the page I see an ASACP button on the AFF page. Isn't that a bit fucked up?

                                      The fact that ASACP does not return e mails when asked about this, that they will accept this money and not find it to be just a little wrong speaks volumes.

                                      These links are from just one torrent site, I can go to a variety of other torrent sites, dozens of them, and tube sites that all feature AFF, have all featured AFF for months and months. We pointed out this issue to them well over 6-7 if not more months ago, and nothing has happened.

                                      How is this right?

                                      For people like Baddogg please explain to me how this makes me an idiot??
                                      For the people who did not read page one, and waiting for Baddogg to answer

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                                      • Aussie Rebel
                                        Blow Me U Geeks
                                        • Aug 2001
                                        • 5108

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by VG.Content
                                        For starters these were available to download when AFF announced that it was now working with ASACP, and they are still there today.

                                        Cute_15_Year_Old_jacking_off_her_Daddy_zip
                                        Fucking_my_little_sis_in_the_ass_illegal_preteen_u underage_lolita_kiddy_child_incest_xxx_porno_gay_f u fuck_young_naked_nude_little_g_rar
                                        14_Year_Old_Nude_ANAL
                                        Under_age_small_girl_showing_pussy_illegal.rar
                                        prepuberty_underage_masturbation_video.mpg
                                        15_year_OLD_rape_anal_forcedbj_blowjob.mwv
                                        2_13_Year_Old_Forced_Lesbian_Sex.mpg

                                        There are two separate AFF on banners on this page, which people click and they make money from.

                                        Now let's go to torrentz.com and we will directly search "child porn" yes these links were submitted to ASACP months ago, they are still online, yes they were sent to abuse on the torrent site and nothing happened.

                                        http://torrentz.com/search?q=child+porn&x=0&y=0

                                        Let's look at some of the videos available. "these are the tag lines to entice people to download the videos" Top of the page AFF, the right side of the page AFF yet again.

                                        Young child pussy movie collection no fake
                                        Child pporn Copy of Cute Lolita 16 Year Old Being
                                        Horny Old Man Fucks His Deaf Grandchild
                                        Teenage Boy s Fantasy (Incest, Rape, Child Porn
                                        Father rapes his daughter in his truck

                                        Now on torrentz.com again under the search term "underage" yes these links were submitted to ASACP months ago, they are still online, yes they were sent to abuse on the torrent site and nothing happened.

                                        Let's look at some of the videos available. "these are the tag lines to entice people to download the videos" Top of the page AFF, the right side of the page AFF yet again.

                                        http://torrentz.com/search?x=0&y=0&q=underage

                                        Illegal Video Of Underage Students Having Sex
                                        R@Ygold Very young underage girl with small budding breasts
                                        Gothic Teen Takes The Fuck Of Her Underage Life
                                        underage nadia sexy model part2
                                        Fucking my little sis in the ass(illegal_preteen_underage
                                        WARNING 5 Underage Girls ILLEGALLY Underage Videos
                                        EXTREMELY Underage Girl Fingering On Camera.
                                        Adult Disturbing Sex Video Reveals Underage Teenage Sex
                                        Illegal Underage Girl Gives Bartender Blowjob And Screws
                                        Underage rimjob 9 year old girl
                                        WARNING Illegal UnderAge Teen Porn
                                        Disgusting Underage Girls Turn Lesbian
                                        NEW Nastiest Underage Teen Anal You Will Ever See
                                        Underage Girls Caught On Camera WARNING Extremely Young Girl
                                        DISGUSTING Underage Girl Masterbating Not Even 14
                                        Underage Chicks On Webcam
                                        NEW Nastiest Underage Teen Anal You Will Ever See
                                        Underage small girl showing pussy

                                        Now on torrentz.com under the search term 13 year old yes these links were submitted to ASACP months ago, they are still online, yes they were sent to abuse on the torrent site and nothing happened.

                                        Let's look at some of the videos available. "these are the tag lines to entice people to download the videos" Top of the page AFF, the right side of the page AFF yet again.

                                        http://torrentz.com/search?x=0&y=0&q=13+year+old

                                        13 Year Old Japanese Girl Brutally Raped By Two Guys DISGUTSTING PORN
                                        13 Year Old Preteen Nude
                                        13 Year Old Nude Upskirts Pictures
                                        Hot Young 13 Years Old Girls Nude
                                        13 years old hard fucking
                                        13year old blow job caught on tape
                                        Hot Young 13 Year Old Girls Nude
                                        dog sex with 13year old.
                                        XxX 12 Year OLD TeenY GeT FuckeD XxX

                                        These are only a few of the search terms on only one torrent site, you can search 11 year old, 12 year old, 10 year old, 9 year old, preteen, underage teen, teen sex, child sex, and a variety of other search terms.

                                        On EVERY SINGLE page you will find at minimum 2 or more AFF banners. Anyone who clicks these banners and buys a membership to AFF makes AFF money. AFF then takes this money and gives it to the ASACP. Do you see the issue?

                                        ASACP said they have a ZERO tolerance policy, if i go to a page with these terms on them, and these videos and then click any of the VERY large banners on the page I see an ASACP button on the AFF page. Isn't that a bit fucked up?

                                        The fact that ASACP does not return e mails when asked about this, that they will accept this money and not find it to be just a little wrong speaks volumes.

                                        These links are from just one torrent site, I can go to a variety of other torrent sites, dozens of them, and tube sites that all feature AFF, have all featured AFF for months and months. We pointed out this issue to them well over 6-7 if not more months ago, and nothing has happened.

                                        How is this right?

                                        For people like Baddogg please explain to me how this makes me an idiot??
                                        Here's some screen shots of the 2 links above just to show people how AFF does NOT give a fuck what they have there ads next too. click on pic to enlarge


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                                        • »Rob Content«
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2006
                                          • 4348

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
                                          Here's some screen shots of the 2 links above just to show people how AFF does NOT give a fuck what they have there ads next too. click on pic to enlarge



                                          Keep in mind there is also an AFF banner on the right side of the screen and on most pages one at the bottom. So 3 different banners which more or less surround these search terms.

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                                          • V_RocKs
                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32451

                                            #71
                                            Perhaps they should be doing something like google with javascript and making it so certain words turn OFF the banners... Even put up public announcements on how CP damages lives or something?

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                                            • »Rob Content«
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2006
                                              • 4348

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                              Perhaps they should be doing something like google with javascript and making it so certain words turn OFF the banners... Even put up public announcements on how CP damages lives or something?
                                              Perhaps a company that is here to fight CP should not accept money when they have a ZERO tolerance rule from people who profit from the trafficking of CP...

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                                              • Sarah_Jayne
                                                Now with more Jayne
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 40077

                                                #73
                                                Reminds me how a few major UK companies have pulled their advertising from Face Book because their adverts were showing up on profiles created by National Front members.

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                                                • »Rob Content«
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                  • 4348

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
                                                  Reminds me how a few major UK companies have pulled their advertising from Face Book because their adverts were showing up on profiles created by National Front members.
                                                  I wish people from our industry did not support this shit

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                                                  • GreyWolf
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jun 2007
                                                    • 2036

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by VG.Content
                                                    I wish people from our industry did not support this shit
                                                    Unfortunately it's a reflection of an element of swamplife within the online industry. There is no level some will not stoop to to earn a dollar.

                                                    This industry will screw itself simply because of the ease of entry. It has already done a shitty job since the start, ranging from telecoms abuse/fraud on dialers to content theft. Many of these areas were profitable, but have since been abused by leeches - and, most probably this will continue at a higher rate.

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                                                    • fluffygrrl
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • May 2006
                                                      • 2187

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by VG.Content
                                                      As I asked in another thread and was ignored

                                                      Where I am from ZERO tolerance means there is no grey area, no fence to walk on. If you are in any way shape or form affiliated with something my ZERO tolerance rule would say sorry I refuse to work with you until you clean up your act.

                                                      But, with ASACP it appears they have a different view on ZERO tolerance. For them it appears that as long as you are not the one trafficking CP then your money is good, if people you pay money do that's ok, as long as your not the one touching it.

                                                      So this means I can open a site and people can trade videos and pictures on it, some of those pictures and videos will in fact be CP, but everything on the site is submitted by end users, I don't actually touch it. I just give people a place to trade CP and other types of media. And this would not be against their Zero Tolerance policy and they would accept me as a sponsor and allow me to put the ASACP logo on my site.

                                                      Who cares that I am single handedly helping traffic and spread CP around the net, and giving a place for people to do it. As long as I'm not actually uploading it to the server, but letting others do-so it's all within their ZERO tolerance policy as something that is acceptable.
                                                      By your enlightened mind, zero tolerance rule to violence woudl be to nuke to dust any planet violence ever appeared on, right ?

                                                      Did a child molester sit in this chair ? Burn the fuckin chair.

                                                      Let me tell you something. Odds are you're drinking water that was in fact pissed by a child molester at some point in it's history. Right now.

                                                      Stop drinking water, hypocrite !!!

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                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                        • 28609

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by fluffygrrl
                                                        By your enlightened mind, zero tolerance rule to violence woudl be to nuke to dust any planet violence ever appeared on, right ?

                                                        Did a child molester sit in this chair ? Burn the fuckin chair.

                                                        Let me tell you something. Odds are you're drinking water that was in fact pissed by a child molester at some point in it's history. Right now.

                                                        Stop drinking water, hypocrite !!!
                                                        cept we arent talking about water or child molesters , we are talking about asacp advertisers that are advertising next to child pornography . its not a hard concept to grasp really.

                                                        dont take money from sites that pay people that peddle child porn .. especially if your name is "adult sites AGAINST child pornography"


                                                        tip #1 if your site is AGAINST something , it doesnt make sense to take money that was made from doing the exact thing your against now does it.
                                                        Last edited by SmokeyTheBear; 08-24-2007, 02:24 AM.
                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                        • Iron Fist
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                          • 23400

                                                          #78
                                                          So if there is real CP on the site (never looked nor am I interested in finding any) why are you not reporting it to the authorities and having the site shut down completely? Then no ads can be shown no matter whos sponsoring the site - law enforcement has a ZERO TOLERANCE policy and it means taking the server first and asking questions later...

                                                          Now how easy is that, or are we just stirring up drama where there is nothing anyways?
                                                          i like waffles

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