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Originally Posted by Jel
fate, god, karma, mother nature, love, the force - doesn't matter what/who you use imho.
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Originally Posted by Jel
fwiw the purpose of believing, or coming to believe, in a higher power, is so those in recovery get to grips with the fact that we ourselves aren't in control of everything, much as we'd like to be. That's the way I interpret it anyways.
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Originally Posted by raymor
Yes. Also try this on and see how it fits -
whatever power it is that's working for other people might just work for you too. No need to define that power or give it any other name than "HP".
Another way of saying almost the same thing would be to say "SOMETHING has worked for Ray for fifteen years. Whatever that something is, I want it too." Just as long as you realize it's not YOU.
What I did was I got on my knees and said something like this:
After doing that daily for about 30 days, someone else came up to me at a random time and place and ask me how to find God. Clearly something was working in my life, they said, and they wanted that power in their life. I looked around and realized they were right. Some sort of higher power or God was clearly present in my life, and I hadn't even given it a name. I just invited it in, and it came in.
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Thanks all. Thing is, that I dont really truly believe in ANY higher power - Hence me shunning the 12 steps, and doing it all myself about a year and a half ago...
However, due to a personal issue in July, I relapsed...
The reason I said 'CM Punk' wasn't a piss take. Its cause he is a wrestler and entertainer, at the top of his game, whom I admire. He is also (In Real Life as well as in the ring) "STRAIGHT EDGE"... I think, if he can do what he does and take NOTHING... EVER... Then what could I achieve if I could get just a 5th of what he has?
But anyway, hanks for responses, and I shall try again - MY WAY - then, if it still dont work - I shall try 12 steps
Like I say, I HAVE done it before, and I'm sure I could again, and if the event that happened in June had NOT happened, I would not have relapsed....