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I'd like to see a much larger scale contest too. I have tools to automate things too. Surely most of the participants in this contest would have their own scripts and tools as well.
I am not a fan of webair either. They go down too much for me to trust anything important to them.I like pie.Comment
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The idea of a blog contest sure has legs to walk, hell run
I would actually involve some webmastering (the drama!!!), though I do agree it should be on a semi-close environment (limit to number of domains, blogs, list of sponsors,etc..)Comment
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That's the only way to keep it fair and easy to track IMHO.
Keeping the number of domains and IP's limited to 1 is a given. If we don't do that someone can just use Webair's SEO package with 236 IP's over 4 C classes and cheat without us knowing. Everyone cannot do that. This isn't a test of how much you can afford to do... it's about how much you know.
1 domain, 1 ip, 1 host...
The competition should be measured in 2 ways:
*how much traffic you get
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*how many signups you get
Now, the sponsors is a different issue. If we use a dozen plus sponsors it stops being a controlled contest because we are then subject to the many variations of different sponsors conversion ratios. If one blogger makes more posts about the wrong sponsor they lose. It's not a scientific test it becomes more about luck.
So, to keep it fair and to be able to gage this on skill the sponsors should be limited.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
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I actually agree, I have no interest in original content or single blogs.
i will have to think about this more, I have already had 3 sponsors email me wanting us to use their feeds and interested in offering prizesComment
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Guys, if you know blogs then you know that domain can have limitless subdomains. And if you are really good, you know how to make sure every category created gets it's own subdomain that you can treat as it's own fiefdom.
I'm kinda surprised at your answers.Last edited by Pornwolf; 08-18-2007, 03:10 PM.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
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It kinda sounds like you are scared to fight without a crutch.
.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
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I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
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The whole day? This isn't even something that would take me more than a few hours twice weekly.
Maybe since I came up in this business in AVS, building hundreds of feeders a day, kinda gave me a leg up.
Cranking out posts for multiple subs is a cake walk in comparison.Last edited by Pornwolf; 08-18-2007, 03:19 PM.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
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actually, it isn't that, to me doing a single domain, single ip, etc sounds rather boring...my mind is entirely too scattered to focus on one single blog, even if it has subdomains, etc.
not to mention that I only us rss feeds, and one single domain won't cut it for that
I am more interested in doing this for the advanced blog webmasters with as many tools that are out there...that way when all is said and done we all have huge traffic networks and the winners can explain how they did it, so even if you didn't win you learn how the winners DID winComment
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Pornwolf, could you elaborate more on this please? I started my first blog back in May and it is incredibly slow to drive SE traffic to it. I'm creating some high quality posts with lots of text. Takes a good hour for me to write the entries. I've written nearly 40 high quality entries and only made two sales.
I worked it out... I'm estimating 80 hours (One hour per entry plus all the other work involved) of work on this blog divided by $27.47 equals about $.34 cents an hour. I don't think it's a problem with conversions. The conversion ratio for both sales were quite good. It's the traffic that just isn't coming in. I am doing trades.
I am not surprised at all that about 85% of the adult blogs I see out there are abandonded. Who wants to spend all that time working on your blog and make such a small amount?Comment
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I have not used original posts in months, I use ONLY rss feeds provided by sponsors
I tried original posts for a long while and honestly saw no difference in se listings and traffic than the way I work my rss feeds
as I stated earlier, I started this new network just at the last week of July and it is growing super fast
there is a LOT of ways to use only rss feeds and have greatly successful blogs, you just have to learn howComment
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great thread ...Compound interest.Comment
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Walrus, that sucks. I feel for you man, I really do. It reminds me of the time I tried my hand at mainstream SEO before blogs became a tool. Long hours of work that ended up paying me less per hour than anything I did in adult.
Here's the deal, I'll give you 4 tips that should turn things around for you
- Focus on getting backlinks for your blog. No matter if you have 80 posts or 8,000 posts, if you don't have relevant backlinks to your blog (by categories if possible) you will not have much success. Once you have enough backlinks you end up in a trusted zone with google and it will update you more often and with higher rankings. Do a board search for blog directories, ping, and trackbacks. Also, simple link trades help.
- Increase your catagories, niches and etc. Long tail keywords is what will keep the money flowing. With 80 categories I can virtually assure you you aren't hitting enough of them to make it worth your while.
- Speed up your post making by doing two things:
- Write posts in a conversational style. Write them as you would say them. don't overthink it. Don't try to sell hard, write them as you are talking to the person. For instance, if you have a fetish set from a fetish site you are promoting the first thing you may think is, "I bet this woman is sweating like a pig under all that latex. She's hot though, I'd love to pin some clips on those nipples! Click here to see her scream with pleasure after the electricity is turned on!" It's more important for them to be relevant and personal than it is for them to be long.
- If you are hosting the content make sure you arrange it beforehand. That way the workflow goes much faster. Organization is key with blogs
- Write posts in a conversational style. Write them as you would say them. don't overthink it. Don't try to sell hard, write them as you are talking to the person. For instance, if you have a fetish set from a fetish site you are promoting the first thing you may think is, "I bet this woman is sweating like a pig under all that latex. She's hot though, I'd love to pin some clips on those nipples! Click here to see her scream with pleasure after the electricity is turned on!" It's more important for them to be relevant and personal than it is for them to be long.
- If blog writing just isn't your strong point, don't be afraid to pull morphing feeds. There's plenty of sponsors that have them and as Jace said they do work well. I do them on some blogs myself. My main blogs are hand written for two reasons, I can talk about a bunch of stuff that porn feeds never do and keep it entertaining which also pulls more SE clicks and gets links from other places because guys & girls talk about it and pass some of the links around the web. Also, I like to write if you haven't noticed. ;)
If you do everything I just said you will see it turn around. I'm sure Jace can add a few things.
If you don't do anything else, make sure you work on your backlinks on the main blog. That should at least make you a few sales a month for the next 5 years.Last edited by Pornwolf; 08-18-2007, 05:23 PM.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
- Focus on getting backlinks for your blog. No matter if you have 80 posts or 8,000 posts, if you don't have relevant backlinks to your blog (by categories if possible) you will not have much success. Once you have enough backlinks you end up in a trusted zone with google and it will update you more often and with higher rankings. Do a board search for blog directories, ping, and trackbacks. Also, simple link trades help.
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I'm pretty green when it comes to blogging... and yeah. I'm sure you guys will say I'm a moron... but I started building my own little network of blogs a couple days ago over on thumblogger... I just want to see what I can accomplish on there before I start spending money on domains and hosting etc. for that.
I'm treating it as it's own little network from "scratch"... i.e. no linking from my established sites... All I've done so far is submit the first one to a bunch of blog directories and do some pings. First day it was interesting it got over 200 hits from the directories and has been dropping like a rock over the last 3-4 days... I haven't seen any bots crawl it yet.
So here's my question.. What do you guys do to get "real" traffic in there? Is it basically going to be SE long term? Other than directories, pinging and SEs, is there anything else I should do that yields "real" cost effective (time) traffic?Comment
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back to the top!Comment
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I'll start a new blog tonight and post results as time goes.icq 156131086Comment
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I have a very advanced link script that I use and had custom built
I add my new sites into that script and they are usually crawled within a day and at least 20-30 pages in the engines within a week
I always blew off people that said "the best scripts are custom", but I knew I had a theory that would work and finally scraped up the bones to get it done, and sure enough, my theory was dead on
trial and error is the best way though, and with search engines you can generally see within 2-3 days whether a theory is going to pay off or notComment
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I'd definitely be interested in seeing your results as well.
It's good that we are all trying to do this because even though people know about blogs a lot of people don't know what to expect.
Also, a lot of folks just plain don't do them right. It's not like TGM/MGP's where you set up the site, set up the script, buy choker traffic then trade your way to success. Everyone knows that method.
Good blogs are run an entirely different way. Unfortunately so many guys install wordpress then pull sponsor feeds and wonder what comes next. Not a lot has been written about the process.
So, no matter if we have a contest or not (which would be cool... Jace hit me), I will be making my setup and progress on this network public. The backlinks, the trackbacks, the ping tools, the posts, the feeds if I use them in some categories, the traffic and the signups.
Everything you wanna know, right here in the open on GFY.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
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Very nice. I have 10,300 indexed as of this posting for Edge Report -- only problem is, I never optimized it .. spent only a few minutes setting it up .. and haven't touched it since.
Pages search: http://www.google.com/search?source=...edgereport.comComment
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thats all fine unless you step on other people's toesVery nice. I have 10,300 indexed as of this posting for Edge Report -- only problem is, I never optimized it .. spent only a few minutes setting it up .. and haven't touched it since.
Pages search: http://www.google.com/search?source=...edgereport.com
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cool, ill be reading up mangComment
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Good luckICQ 557504926Comment
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Forget thumblogger, you might as well give me you cc info and hope I'm a nice guy. Lets say you build your thumlogger blogs, you work your ass off and at some point are making $5 000.00 per month, then one sunny day the thumblogger owner finds god and you're screwed. Well, not very likely scenario but you get my point.
If your budget is low or you just don't want to spend too much money but you want say 50 blogs network then wait for a .info domain special and register 50 of them for $50.00, then get some small virtual host for $10.00 per month and that's basically it. The rest is hard work.
What to do to get 'real' traffic - post unique content, get backlinks, do some simple SE optimization - its that simple. When will you get some good SE traffic? It depends on quite a few factors, but in many cases be prepared to wait 6 months or more.
Mistakes I made:
-aiming too low when choosing targeted keyphrases. The thing is you shouldn't aim too high or two low. If you aim too high then be prepared to work really hard for 2-3 years if you want to get on the 1st page of Google for the chosen keyword. If you aim too low and and build your blog around say "black shemales with 2 1/2 inch cocks" you will get to No1 on Google but the amount of traffic you'd be getting is simply not worth your time and effort
-I should've started with original content from the scratch but I didn't. Using RSS feeds only didn't get me far but then again if you have a script to modify the feeds and "create" original content from them you should by all means do it - nothing better than making big $$ with little work. This "morphing feeds" thingy sounds pretty promising too ;)Comment
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Very nice. I have 10,300 indexed as of this posting for Edge Report -- only problem is, I never optimized it .. spent only a few minutes setting it up .. and haven't touched it since.
Pages search: http://www.google.com/search?source=...edgereport.com
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Thanks for posting your experiences.
I agree with the last statement. There's nothing wrong with using morphing feeds. It's a hellluva tool and should be used by all means.
The ONLY reason I still advocate writing your own posts for some of your blogs is the control of the keywords in the text. Even though the morphing feeds will be fairly unique to you, they will still contain similar keywords across the different affiliates' sites.
If you want to stand out and have a leg up those morphing feeds don't then original text is the way to go.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
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Pornwolf, if you don't mind me asking, what do you use to co-ordinate the auto posting of all your affiliate program RSS feeds?Comment
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pornwolf - great threadBarefootsiesComment
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I just started my own mini network as well, but on my own domain. As listed here I made subdomains. Have primalkiss.com, extreme.primalkiss and teens.primalkiss. I started off using rss feed from the progs I'm signed up to, but noticed it was all generic. I killed the feed then went back and manually edited them all for a personal flare, also dcided to host the images on my domain as well. Then linked all relevant blogs to eachother, then cross links as well. Using the standard all in one seo, wp o matic and tags to get all the seo up to par...to a degree anyways.
Every post I submit to either ping-o-matic, pinggoat or pingmyblog. Then, after advice from here started nailing porndiggity and bookmarkyourporn. Traffic is gaining, no sales as of yet butI'm working like a fucking machine on these. Updating daily on all, sometimes twice depending on the day and I sit hoping.
Just my
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I'm doing the same thing right now.Comment
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Jace, in your experience is it a big difference to have a unique ip to each blog or have you had success with several domains on 1 ip too?
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Definitely, let's try to do that.
Yeah, it's rare now a days. No one is sharing info anymore. Maybe because there's only 4 actual webmasters, 4,000 sponsor reps and 40,000 surfers here now!
Thanks Montel. I loved your talk show!
I appreciate it. This should generate a lot of traffic by XMas. ;)
Do that. I may do a latin one soon.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
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Great thread guys! I'll be watching this closely.
I'm learning blogging from scratch after years of galleries. Loving the new challenge but it's daunting as hell. I'll be hassling you guys (Jace and Pornwolf) on icq before long, I'm sure. I'm keen to develop my own networks using tools like those described here
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