AFF Contributory Infringement on The Paris Hilton Sex Video or 1 Night In Paris
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So that absolves AFF of all of the actual Torrent sites that rip off content while underwriting their activities using funds from AFF ads?
Anyway, name your sites so I can check if what you are saying is true...
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we are corresponding with Andrea from AFF in the hopes of rectifying these issues. i am hopeful we will influence change, and also not have to police aff marketers/marketing, one way or another. we shall see...InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5
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this is the court of gfy damian and it is approximately a 100 to 1 vote right now against unfair competition
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Evan they will close the account today but they will be reopened in a few weeks, just like when Lars closed the piratebays account personally, but the piratebay still flys AFF banners, and that was lars himself that closed that accountComment
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Please keep everyone posted, Evan. A solution only for your company is simply a band-aid approach to the problem. The industry needs a comprehensive solution.
And let's be frank, if AFF can keep it's affiliates free of the Paris video, they have the means and mechanisms to keep them free of everyone else's pirated/stolen content as well.
If they can't do this, then they should not be advertising with thieves, or allow such individuals/sites to be affiliates in the first place - it's called due diligence and being a good corporate citizen...
BTW, I spent the better part of my mainstream career with companies that had thousands, and even tens of thousands of clients. We stayed in touch with each of them and visited all of their web sites on a regular basis to follow up on our marketing, co-op advertising, etc.
It's not hard to do once you make the commitment and develop a systematic plan.
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I am glad - I hope everyone of the ass holes that have violated your 'property' are sued.
I am sure you have learned that you cant police everyone.Comment
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I better give the Anal Hobbit a call and tell him to scratch his latest upcoming post about how to make money off Torrent and ripping the Paris Video.
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no, that would be funny.
i would love to see the anal hobbit on the writing staff for bromasters.


if you can't take time to laugh at this shit sometimes it makes you loony.Comment
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I don't see how hard it would be for AFF to set up a script that loads the HTML of every referring URL and flags sites with certain keywords for later human attention.
Then again this isn't about how hard it i$..............Comment
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Rowan, it also wouldn't be hard for them to flag all sites with "torrent" "password" and "p2p" in the URL for manual review. But you miss the point: AFF is after traffic, they aren't going to refuse it from anywhere unless they are taken to task, preferably with a lawyer.Comment
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That certainly appears to be the case...Rowan, it also wouldn't be hard for them to flag all sites with "torrent" "password" and "p2p" in the URL for manual review. But you miss the point: AFF is after traffic, they aren't going to refuse it from anywhere unless they are taken to task, preferably with a lawyer.
Hey Damian2001, you stated that you have four fake Torrent sites with DRM content, and twice I have asked you to name them so that everyone could see if you were telling the truth about them, or simply serving as a tool trying to run interference for AFF.
You're failure to list your sites (after YOU brought them up) speaks volumes...
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Damian, how much a month for your sig? I need somebody to kiss my ass and boost my ego.Comment
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the only point I would make here is that a lot of the ads you may be seeing on torrent sites are run of network ads. I buy run of network ads when I bid on yahoo ppc or google ppc.. I don't know what sites they will run on and I have no way of knowing what sites they will run on.
Some of the deals I bet they know exactly what is up, but some of them my guess is they just threw 100k at an ad network and said "run ads for us" in the same way that all corps do.
It's unlikely aff is totally oblivious but a few of the square graphic ad's i've seen sure look like RON ads to me.Comment
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I didn't miss the point at all, my reply had dollar signs written all over it (well, perhaps one small substitute for 's'Rowan, it also wouldn't be hard for them to flag all sites with "torrent" "password" and "p2p" in the URL for manual review. But you miss the point: AFF is after traffic, they aren't going to refuse it from anywhere unless they are taken to task, preferably with a lawyer.
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Even when you throw money at ads, you follow up to see what produces the best ROI. If you see that the sites are posting illegal/stolen content, unless you want to be associated with it, you shut it down and fast.the only point I would make here is that a lot of the ads you may be seeing on torrent sites are run of network ads. I buy run of network ads when I bid on yahoo ppc or google ppc.. I don't know what sites they will run on and I have no way of knowing what sites they will run on.
Some of the deals I bet they know exactly what is up, but some of them my guess is they just threw 100k at an ad network and said "run ads for us" in the same way that all corps do.
It's unlikely aff is totally oblivious but a few of the square graphic ad's i've seen sure look like RON ads to me.
AFF knows that they are being watched more closely than they were in the past, not just by the adult biz, but quite possibly by the government and other industry associations, as well.
Some in the adult biz might even adopt tactics like AFF.
If they, and the pirate sites they sponsor don't care where there traffic/money comes from, then why should we care if the RIAA or the mainstream Motion Picture industry sues them for Contributory Infringement once we point them in the right direction. It doesn't matter how the pirate sites are shut down, their nonsense has to be stopped.
Lars has been sued before by the music industry - he can probably already see what is coming next...
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You must of never worked for a big company, analyzing the numbers is a big part of how the day is spent. I find it hard to believe no one knows where anything comes from I smell Bullshit in my opinion. I worked for a publicly traded company, we had meetings with the ceo once a week and all we spoke about is the numbers and where the traffic was coming from.Now it was only a small 30 million dollar company but I could tell if an affiliate farted. How FF a 100 million dollar company has no idea where anything is coming from is very hard to believe. Think about it,if you know nothing about your traffic, how do you know what to pay for ads or prepaid sales or where for sales people to focus on?Last edited by tony286; 08-16-2007, 08:37 PM.Comment
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Actually I make it a point not to give too much away - that has been my policy from day 1 on this board - Lots of people have paid me money here.
The sig is there because they make me more money for the effort it requires than any other. I haven't even pushed AFF a great deal for a while - I like a little variety - but the rebills keep rolling in.
Isn't it slightly moronic to think that I wouldn't have a sig for a company that I respect..... sorry I forget this is GFY and generally you have to fly the banner of the prog that paid you the most to do so. Even if you think they are shit.
I have no deal with AFF to use their sig - I use it because I think they are one of the best progs around.Comment
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Even after people have repeatedly posted screen shots of AFF ads next to CP and beastiality, and that they help underwrite content thieves with ads and affiliate payouts?!?
All that aside, why don't you post the URLs for your four fake Torrents sites that you said you operate in an earlier post?
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Send the pages that have CP and beast with AFF ads too AFF - they have dealt with them in the past and will again I can assure you.Even after people have repeatedly posted screen shots of AFF ads next to CP and beastiality, and that they help underwrite content thieves with ads and affiliate payouts?!?
All that aside, why don't you post the URLs for your four fake Torrents sites that you said you operate in an earlier post?
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I have from my first day here kept my business private - too many ass holes here. If you don't like that, well tough shit really. That's your problem not mine.Comment
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I already posted a site that has CP alongside an AFF ad in this thread. Just checked - OMG it's still there (as if you or AFF honestly care).Send the pages that have CP and beast with AFF ads too AFF - they have dealt with them in the past and will again I can assure you.
I have from my first day here kept my business private - too many ass holes here. If you don't like that, well tough shit really. That's your problem not mine.
Yup, it's right next to the AFF fake profiles showing models whom I personally know, that live nowhere near where AFF's ads say they reside.
Pirate Bay is another good example of how vigilant AFF really is...they did not dispute the post that indicated AFF ads are once again in place there.
As for you, if you can't even list the fake torrent sites that you brought up yourself in the first place (in order to establish your truthfulness), then one can fairly conclude that you are possibly/likely lying.
You have pretty much proven you have no credibility, and that you are just a troll/tool for AFF.
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Did you contact AFF about this page?I already posted a site that has CP alongside an AFF ad in this thread. Just checked - OMG it's still there (as if you or AFF honestly care).
Yup, it's right next to the AFF fake profiles showing models whom I personally know, that live nowhere near where AFF's ads say they reside.
Pirate Bay is another good example of how vigilant AFF really is...they did not dispute the post that indicated AFF ads are once again in place there.
As for you, if you can't even list the fake torrent sites that you brought up yourself in the first place (in order to establish your truthfulness), then one can fairly conclude that you are possibly/likely lying.
You have pretty much proven you have no credibility, and that you are just a troll/tool for AFF.
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Do you know if the affiliate has already been termed?
I guess the answer to both questions is 'no'.
I also have nothing to prove on GFY - the people that send me checks know what I do - you are not one of them so it is no business of yours what I do or do not do.Comment
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Lots definitly are following their shady tactics to make a quick buck... look at why they droped Zango. Lars made a thread saying clearly that the reason why they stopped using it is becuase too many webmasters started to do so and that it wasn't profitable to scam webmasters.Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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That would explain this post of yours from July 27th:
You go player!!!
The people that send you checks know what you do?!? Apparently you support sites that advertise on sites promoting CP...why anyone send you checks for that (other than those that also support CP) is beyond me.
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The link to AFF works, if that is what you mean...
I didn't post a link, only the site name, as I did not want to send anyone unexpectedly to such a site. Anyone that wants to check it out can see that I am not making anything up.
The AFF ad is still there (I made a screen shot), as are the purported CP links (I didn't click the links - and I certainly wouldn't sign up for such a site to see them anyway).
Even if it is fake CP, just like there are many fake AFF profiles, I think it is sufficient enough justification to not want to be affiliated with a site that doesn't ban/monitor for such words (even GFY takes such precautions - BTW, the same site I cited boasts lots of Playboy content as well).
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Thank god for rebills - you do know what they are don't you?That would explain this post of yours from July 27th:
You go player!!!
The people that send you checks know what you do?!? Apparently you support sites that advertise on sites promoting CP...why anyone send you checks for that (other than those that also support CP) is beyond me.
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See sig - they are great at them!
They are the reason I can have the occasional "I am over this shit" period.
Dig back further and you will see I have one about every 6 months.Comment
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Yeah, you're the shit - keep promoting sites that advertise on sites that peddle stolen content and CP...your day will come...
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Just a quick thought - If you are so anti AFF and Fleshlight why do you continue to post here?
GFY are taking their cut of the cash by sending them bills every month for advertising here.
Why not post on a board that has a policy of not taking money from these companies?
You are using a resource that is kept free by the exact people that you so despise.
Sounds like hypocrisy to me.Comment
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That's because you are unable to process information independently and intelligently (and are embarrassed/afraid to even post the sites you claim to operate, if you even actually own or operate any).
You don't seem to realize that with every post you are hurting the company in your sig.
Anyway, thanks for bumping a thread that makes you and your benefactors look like sleazy scum promoting/funding/enabling stolen content, CP, rape, etc...
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u cant answer the question then?That's because you are unable to process information independently and intelligently (and are embarrassed/afraid to even post the sites you claim to operate, if you even actually own or operate any).
You don't seem to realize that with every post you are hurting the company in your sig.
Anyway, thanks for bumping a thread that makes you and your benefactors look like sleazy scum promoting/funding/enabling stolen content, CP, rape, etc...
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I did, you are just not bright enough to decipher it.
So, who do you think this thread is damaging to?
Me? (nope)
GFY? (nope)
You and AFF? (ding, ding, ding)
Besides, I asked you first to name the supposed four fake Torrents sites that you claim to operate - why can't you answer that simple question?
To not do so really makes you look like a liar.
The majority of real webmasters on GFY are unafraid to post what their websites are. Honestly, with every post you seem more like a pathetic troll and AFF asskisser than anything else.
Keep bumping this thread, fool...
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Apparently you don't use the cunt-calling much when it comes to the company that seems to most clearly suppose torrents. If you are going to lick ass, why not get paid for it?Comment
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I don't ever kiss ass - well not in public - I believe what I believe - If you don't agree then there is not much I can do.
But on a forum like this I have a right to oppose certain views......
It would be fucking boring if we all agreed on everything.Comment
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Evan - give it a week after they claim to be doing something about it and see if you can't catch just as many infringements with just as many AFF ads...HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
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Btw- Andrea - you step-up, I send you screencaps - the rest is auto-pilot. I am not dmca'ing aff - please handle those emails cooperatively to maintain aff's position
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I am not going to post private emails, but let's just say the rude.com screencap with multiple images of rick and paris from the video and the aff ad which has been posted here and emailed was not self-explanatory enough? - i got a reply of "which content are you wanting removed" ..
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