Paul Markham's Evil Twin

Barry. You're so funny.

When I first came and made my presence to online porn, I was told surfers didn't want my glossy magazine style porn. By a lot by people who couldn't produce anything decent. Telling me there bad porn was what the surfer wanted. They didn't last long and most have gone.

Then people were telling me online porn was the future of the porn business. Now people are telling me paysites have run their course and it's time to adapt. Usually to giving away more free porn to sell ads to people who will become obsolete as others put up their type of adult for free, in increasing numbers.

The numbers of people leaving are far above those joining. Newbies are unlikely to bring anything of worth to this industry.

People told me online made far more than offline ever did. Maybe for a few months as off line declined. Still doubt if online porn ever took more than offline retail. Those telling me how little offline took quoted the production companies accounts. Which has nothing to do with the real offline businesses revenue.

Yes E Books have damaged the old book model and made it harder for writers. But when 100s of people decide to give away 10,000s of new books each. Then Amazon will lose book sales. They have lots of things to sell, online porn has 3. Recorded porn, live porn and Dating. Dating makes sense to give it away for free, move away from Adult and get advertisers like E bay, Amazon, Coke, etc. Lot more money than from AFF.


However, tube sites that are licensing content for use now as well as sponsor and content producer/licensee tube sites are here to stay -- deal with it and learn how to profit by it or move on ...

Poppycock. Tubes with DMCA infringing content can be sued after the legal notices are served. But it's expensive and few online have the balls to take that one on, still it can just come down for a few days. Then a mystery man in some hole will re-upload the scene so it's back up again. Paysite sales are falling, whether you're a one man band or Manwin. The fall in sales will eventually hit everyone. Just takes a bit of time.

Then who will provide the licensed content and will those sites keep feeding Tubes, so they can sell ads to dating companies?

How many Tubes can afford to license enough new content a day to keep the traffic happy. Will advertisers chip in for the cost of buying content. Or will the mystery men just increase?

Yes think long term and think hard. AND don't assume the model you ride today will be the same one you ride this time next year.

And never assume in a market that's changing fast, the next move might not just be the same one Pimproll did. Big Sponsors turning a big site into a free Tube.

There's one think the "Freemium" business model has to have to survive. Buyers and without that, free doesn't work.

Never forget, adult is stuck in it's own little corner. It's pot of advertisers are limited. Itself and maybe betting. If betting will advertise in adult sites and it works. Then no worries. If not.

Poppycock?

"I've been giving away my books ever since my first novel came out, and boy has it ever made me a bunch of money.

When my first novel, Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, was published by Tor Books in January 2003, I also put the entire electronic text of the novel on the Internet under a Creative Commons License that encouraged my readers to copy it far and wide. Within a day, there were 30,000 downloads from my site (and those downloaders were in turn free to make more copies). Three years and six printings later, more than 700,000 copies of the book have been downloaded from my site. The book's been translated into more languages than I can keep track of, key concepts from it have been adopted for software projects and there are two competing fan audio adaptations online.

Most people who download the book don't end up buying it, but they wouldn?t have bought it in any event, so I haven?t lost any sales, I?ve just won an audience. A tiny minority of downloaders treat the free e-book as a substitute for the printed book--those are the lost sales. But a much larger minority treat the e-book as an enticement to buy the printed book. They're gained sales. As long as gained sales outnumber lost sales, I'm ahead of the game. After all, distributing nearly a million copies of my book has cost me nothing."

http://www.forbes.com/2006/11/30/cor...1doctorow.html

A publishing industry that is being transformed by all things digital could learn some things from Paulo Coelho, the 64-year-old Brazilian novelist. Years ago he upended conventional wisdom in the book business by pirating his own work, making it available online in countries where it was not easily found, using the argument that ideas should be disseminated free. More recently he has proved that authors can successfully build their audiences by reaching out to readers directly through social media. He ignites conversations about his work by discussing it with his fans while he is writing.

That philosophy has helped him sell tens of millions of books, most prominently ?The Alchemist,? an allegorical novel that has been on the New York Times best-seller list for 194 weeks and is still a regular fixture in paperback on the front tables of bookstores.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/bo...new-novel.html

And of course, Seth Godin gives away the whole of The Idea Virus too http://www.sethgodin.com/ideavirus/

Next....

markham is a retard because he continually lectures people all day about things he has no experience with.

Never mess with a retired man ...

damien, no one has ever been able to replicate what he did with that model. you notice cory is less enthusiastic about that model of promotion because outside of his very unique case it has been a big fail. it just doesn't work for 99.9999% of authors. please stop using that model.

1. They didn't want your shitty eastern european bored as fuck teen porn, which is why you failed hard in online adult.

2. A great car salesman needs to be able to build great cars then? Stupid statement from a stupid cunt.

3. No they didn't, stop fucking LYING, you bullshitting cunt.

4. You didn't last, and are gone from the online biz. Your only contact with it is posting mindless dribbling bollocks all day long from 7am to 11pm in your (forced) retirement years.

You fucking suck, your content fucking sucks, your lies fucking suck, your analogies fucking suck, your begging fucking sucks, your online biz model fucking sucked.

You fucking suck, cunt features

DAMN Jel...

Can't see anything in there that gives any indication to how much money they take. Just that they have a lot of videos. They acquire for free on a "split revenue" basis.









These stats are not the best in the world. But they give you an indication of the future. Every time another big Tube opens it takes a chunk of traffic. And traffic growth isn't keeping pace any longer with the growth in places to get it for free.

Now you can keep up with the talk, but I would seriously be thinking about what you're going to be doing in a few years. Because the bread has more people to feed every day and the loaf's not getting bigger.

The king has more peasants to feed and he's not getting more food, just giving everyone a smaller share.

Can anyone show a major porn site that's turning these trends around?

4 points and you only called him a cunt 3 times. Slacking

Which is why I'm still doing business and your site is shit. My stores made more money online than you ever did or will. Your a failure who now has to use profanities.

I never said that. I did say a great car needs less work to sell, it sells itself. Lying statement from a stupid liar.
Yes they did. No they did'nt. Yes they did. Sounds like a pantomime now and you're widow Twanky.

Still here after 10 years, still in porn after 34 years. Porn happens offline as well. That's where you bought the cheap rubbish content you have on your site. DVD cheap rubbish porn.
Go look at your site and tell me you're the one to tell me what's good or bad.
Thank you for being stupid and proving it.

A stupid slacking moron.

Well he's in good company. Lot's of them here.

So why don't you go somewhere where your great wisdom would be better received?

Or do you not have a time machine?

or retarded man.

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I shouldn't be so hard on Jel. He can't help opening his mouth and spouting in Moronickish.


http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mixedracelesbos.com#

Alexa Traffic Rank Global 2,445,067



Doesn't even get the traffic our FHGs get or the traffic our Retro site gets. Seeing as our sites are a lot better than his, I shudder to think how he pays his hosting bill.

In fact his paysite doesn't get the traffic our stores do. Where we don't take $30 orders or have freeloaders looking for porn.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/paulmarkham.com#

Alexa Traffic Rank Global 594,780

United States 295,585

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bargai...ntcontent.com#

Alexa Traffic Rank Global 1,101,143

Our stores do more traffic with no promotion, other than me on boards.

You suck big time at this online marketing thing Jel.

And this is why you have failed at this online thing and even a failure at flaming me. Because when you are a failure, the best thing to do is SHUT THE FUCK UP. And not try to point out your failures.

True, do you think Jel is bright enough to get it?

The problem with so many is all they an do is flame. Jel isn't bright enough, like others, to stay well hidden and not have a link in his signature to his failures. Most of the flamers have learned that. Jel is too retarded to figure that one out.

Those stats show a clear trend. Retards like Jel must be shitting his pants. If he can't drive more traffic to his own site, than mine gets with me doing nothing. His future isn't good. It's not like he can switch to mainstream and make a living.

1. You aren't, you lying cunt.
2. From you, who has no idea of the niche, that's the best compliment I could hope for.
3. How much have I made? You are clueless.
4. You are clueless.
5. I don't have to, I choose to. Cunt.

You intimated that someone needs to be able to shoot content, crappy or otherwise, to state your content is shit. They don't.

It only sounds like a pantomime because you added in the No they did'nt. Yes they did. Show me just 1 fucking post from ANYONE that says surfers are looking for shit content. Fucking clown.

You aren't still here fuckwit, you haven't been here for years. This: gone from the online biz.

Wtf has offline got to do with it? Are you selling content offline then? DVD cheap rubbish porn > PMT. So clueless you even named your site after a fucking menstrual cycle, no wonder you act like a cunt.

I looked. I'm not *the* one, I'm one. Go look at your content and tell me you're the one to advise anyone, anywhere, on anyfucking thing. Go look at your traffic and tell me you're the one to advise anyone, anywhere, on anyfucking thing. Go look at your affiliate commissions and tell me you're the one to advise anyone, anywhere, on anyfucking thing. Go look at your porn network and tell me you're the one to advise anyone, anywhere, on anyfucking thing. Go look at your experience of selling porn online and tell me you're the one to advise anyone, anywhere, on anyfucking thing. Go look at yourself in the mirror and tell me you're the one to advise anyone, anywhere, on anyfucking thing.

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Thankyou for being THE real world example of how to be a forlorn, bitter, gutted, sick to the stomach at missed opportunities, lying cunt of an old man who blew the best chance at financial freedom he ever had because he was too much of an egotistical prick to listen to solid advice

Honestly, you are so fucking clueless it's laughable. I have told you many, many, many times I am first and foremost an affiliate marketer. I have told you many, many, many times that a niche like interracial lesbians is smaller than teens. You still don't understand that? My bad, of course you don't - you're an idiotic cunt with zero clue

Wait, I'll just put some links to my affiliate sites in my sig

The stats show all people need to see. If I'm a loser, what does that make you?

Your job is driving traffic and at driving traffic to your own site you failed miserably. You either gave up because the site never converted or you're shit at driving traffic.

The proof of my content was seen on shelves around the world. And if you look around on lots of tours. Not webmasters opinions on boards. No one stays in business 34 years, employs people and has a large studio. Without making money. Working from your bedroom you haven't figured that out yet. And don't say it's a lie. Squealer, another loser, was flaming me and said I had staff and a few of them and a studio and office.

Live with it, you're not very good and not going to get better.

So the stats proved my point, you're shit at your job.

Why would I want to drive non-interracial lesbian traffic to an interracial lesbian site? To get a higher alexa rank? You can't even grasp that basic concept, yet you try and advise others on any aspect of online marketing? You're a fucking joke, now go have a cup of cocoa and think about how stupid you've been for the last 10 years.

Just a quick indication. want to show better stats, feel free to.

Proof please. Maybe it's true, maybe it's bs to get affiliates. No one knows.

People are jumping ship fast. They're complaining about programs closing and not getting paid, a lot more than ever. Maybe you are doing well and one of a few.

The trend is obvious for most. In October 2012 we will know more, we can look back a year and get a picture of 2012.

Divvy teach you ctl+C and ctl+v.... well done

"Still doubt if online porn ever took more than offline retail."

wow...so many directions I want to go, but I know I'd be wasting my breath.

Here you go Jel, I'll run through with you what one of these emails are and how to get them.



It must look strange to you, but I'll make it clear here for you.

It's an Email confirming a JOIN , which you get when someone wants to join your site.

Still with me?

Good. Now I'll explain how you get one to your site.

Firstly you have to go to CCBILL, they are people that process credit cards, incredible isn't it? And turn on the notification, big word so go look it up in a dictionary, that you want to receive an email for a join to show some twat what one looks like. Remember to turn it off or it will fill your free host email so fast, well not in your case so forget that bit.

Then you get one every time someone joins.

It's a bit complicated, for you as you're not very bright, but I'm sure you'll get it in the end. Like you'll get a join email in the end.

Love you.

wow... you woke up on the wrong side of the bed? Anyone would have thought Paul has scratched your car, blown your house up or something on this kind of level

Weakest concede ever.

Nah, but with that silly fuck you need to be blunt.

There's only ome direction to go.

Put up audited accounts of the publicly owned porn businesses. Otherwise it's all speculation.

I know one United Kingdom-based adult retailer, with over 140 high street stores in the UK. In 2007-2008, had an annual turnover of £117.3 million.

That's one chain doing close to $200 million 2007-2008.

$1,448,000 per store. Adult based stores would mark up 300% on average. On DVD they bought in for $6 and sold out at $60 to $70.I know that as I sold to them. Good thing was the volume they once bought in.

Now show comparable from an online porn company. I won't make it tough and say an online UK based porn company. That would be nasty.

Do you seriously think Manwin do that and Fabian picked it up, allegedly, for $100 million?

Yes your problem will be finding online porn companies who have accounts. No problem getting a picture of the wealth of offline.

Click the link to his site and look at these stats and it's clear what the problem is. He knows he's failed and can't just live with being a failure. Sad really and if he wasn't so nasty I would feel sorry for him.

If it were a weekday he might have an excuse, more final demand in the post.

holy shit this thread delivers

? because he defends his world, you know, business, wife, life, home etc.... I would have said Barrys a bit of a silly fuck for another Paul Markham thread.... No offence to Barry, but come on, nearly every day there is some one, usualy the same people moaning & whinging, harrassing or throwing stones at Paul

But hasn't this always been the case?

I remember being a kid in rural NJ. We had TV. Not cable, regular TV. We had four or five channels, mostly ABC, NBC, CNS, PSB, and something else. But it was free. When I first moved to California in 1989, I was stunned that I had to pay for TV. Years later I'm paying $80 a month so we can watch the same four or five channels. (Different channels than what I watched as a kid, but the truth is we always watch the same channels.)

The Internet was more of the same. It was a way for the people to broadcast their message. We didn't need to have a radio station or a TV studio, all we needed was to design a web page and have something to say. I remember being stunned watching a counter telling me how many people visited my webpage. Who knew that so many people were interested in what I had to say?

The cat is out of the bag and it's not going back in.

I know he should change the words saying "leak free tour" .... If Lady dameJ sees it, he wont hear the end of it

I think it's important to tell affiliates this, also to let them know that cookies are set to maximum as they are in our program & finally whether ccbill fees are paid from the sale before or after affiliates, we wouldn't want to con affiliates.... These things are all important

Moron. Show me a leak on the affiliate tour. Here it is: http://www.mixedracelesbos.com/tour1.html

So in fact you know fuck all, as usual. In your case it's ok as you are obviously a bit of a slow cunt, but at heart a nice bloke, though next time think before typing

You're too simple for me to bother explaining. In short though: no.

Agreed... Paul for Troll of 2012

Dont start calling me a cunt! I never said you had a leak on the tour! I was joking about you showing you have "leak free tours" on your affiliate site & yet Lady DamJ says I shouldn't waste my time telling people about leakfree tours.... It was a joke & not directed to you, you slow wanker!

Simple, I'd rather be simple than a wanker that assumes the worst, you unintelligent fool

Ah ok my bad - totally read that as though I was being misleading by saying the tour was leak free - my apologies.

Bless Gary, it's because I told him not to use "leak free tour " as the main selling point of his sites. Obviously, he should use good selling points, like genuine amateur content. Shot by amateurs, edited by amateurs. That would be better than the fact his tour is leak free because that's a very basic thing every site should have.

Gary couldn't grasp this very basic point because he is very stupid.

No problem Jel... I'd never go round checking on others sites & nip picking... I had a quick brouse & just noticed that I thought it was a good thing, not a bad thing.... Thanks for the appology

Gary. I wasn't nitpicking your site. I was explaining the very basic English mistakes you made because you genuinely are that stupid and to try and explain that you should use your USPs to market your site, not just shit everyone else offers

I was trying to help, but you are so painfully simple that you couldn't comprehend what I was saying.

this is his evil twin

Alexa doesn't show a site's sales, right? Alexa is crap anyway.