AFF Contributory Infringement on The Paris Hilton Sex Video or 1 Night In Paris
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Great initiative by XPays. We need to keep this ball rollingTrafficadept | Best traffic I have ever tested | web "@t" cuul.orgComment
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your participation would be immensely appreciated.Have I ever told you how sexy you are when you are going after copyright and trademark infringers.
Keep us in mind for this. Ira Rothkin not only is the attorney for CE but he also represents AFF last time I looked...
Look him up. My fave is where he defends the guy who welched on his gambling debts...
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I made a post in May about a download site that made you sign up to AFF so you could download the file
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This is the kind of infringement that makes attorneys drool and even possibly also take on a contingency...HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
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paul will definitely be making money helping us shut down piraters.http://Berra.org has all the experience and passion to represent on this topic bubby.
call me if you get bored since d is on the road ;-)
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Not necessarily - other than the vast fees paid for him by the plaintiffs to go after them - going after the torrent sites is chump change in most cases and hard to justify the vast legal expense necessary to do so... however, this sort of (alleged) contributory infringement by a whale like AFF could change things completely.HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
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all of the sponsors and those who were unjustly enriched (such as the ad spot broker) should have to pay.InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5
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i have a call with the producer of the star jones show on court tv in 5 minutes. no joke.InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5
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the star jones show is possibly doing a story on this issue. our site will be on the show tuesday for another story fyi--InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5
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Well, considering that Lars himself has been monitoring this board and hasn't addressed this or "taken care" of the problem, I wouldn't get my hopes up....
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considering it seems to be a pre paid traffic deal AFF must have known what sites they were pre paying ads for.
And how many times has the topic of AFF ads on torrent sites come up? has anything changed? are those adds still on those torrent sites?Comment
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I think the issue is that people underestimate the size of Aff, Cams.com, Passion, alt.com etc.
They will have 1000's of genuine and bullshit complaints everyday, each has to be looked at.
Yet you guys want the boss to respond to everyone of your issues within a few hours.
Get real!!Comment
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yes but when it's the same complaint being expressed over and over again and still nothing gets done then there is no point in waiting for an answer...and why is it that all the AFF reps stay clear of any thread that involves them being advertised on torrent sites?I think the issue is that people underestimate the size of Aff, Cams.com, Passion, alt.com etc.
They will have 1000's of genuine and bullshit complaints everyday, each has to be looked at.
Yet you guys want the boss to respond to everyone of your issues within a few hours.
Get real!!Comment
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Paul is great and his rates are entirely reasonable under the circumstances considering his background and experience - we have looked at hiring him too so I can say that in all fairness. But at over a few hundred per hour, plus any paralegal time, plus filing charges, and the immense work on briefs that will need to be prepared, no matter how you slice it the fact is that it will still cost a ton.
But we all know that is not a deterrent to us at HGV... we will always fight for the principles we stand on and the IP rights we must protect; we took on CE and Acacia and we are not scared to take on any other $100 million per year Goliaths...
HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."Comment
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It didn't look like anyone bothered to contribute to the last one (ASACP) when they held the $10,000 matching funds offer. Their biggest defenders and affiliates didn't even post or offer.
With FSC requesting donations now for their new scheme to investigate piracy after their huge 2257 success, maybe there will be another $10,000 matching funds and AFF will be a Platinum FSC sponsor while making no changes to their usual business model.- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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Its the same as Google advertising on spam sites - many people hate it - but there are many 1000's (Millions?) Who do you blame - Google or the spam sites breaking the rules?
When u complain to a massive mainstream site do you expect an answer in a few mins?
Remember AFF are in a similar league.Comment
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XPays has a specific person in legal at google who responds in minutes and takes swift action on all notices. He expects us to cc the general address and him even.Its the same as Google advertising on spam sites - many people hate it - but there are many 1000's (Millions?) Who do you blame - Google or the spam sites breaking the rules?
When u complain to a massive mainstream site do you expect an answer in a few mins?
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aff and fleshlight et al are not even in the same class or category as google fyi as far as service providers vs commercial sites of a particular category etc.InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5
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DMCA DMCA DMCA DMCA....
Blah blah blah blah..
Most of you do not understand the DMCA, or the law, or how things work.
AFF is not a service provider and therefore is not afforded any type of DMCA safe harbor protection. AFF is, at the very least, a vicarious infringer, and almost certainly a contributory infringer.
Secondly, xpays, or any other rights holder has NO LEGAL OBLIGATION to send a DMCA notice, or a cease and desist letter. None. A rights holder, upon discovering any infringement, can simply file suit. The infringing parties first notice that they are in trouble would be when the process server knocked on the door.
A cease and desist letter is often sent as a courtesy, an opportunity to resolve the situation without the traumatic experience that litigation can become.
In my book, AFF's actions have certainly not warranted any such courtesy.Comment
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i wish you could be at the round table.Paul is great and his rates are entirely reasonable under the circumstances considering his background and experience - we have looked at hiring him too so I can say that in all fairness. But at over a few hundred per hour, plus any paralegal time, plus filing charges, and the immense work on briefs that will need to be prepared, no matter how you slice it the fact is that it will still cost a ton.
But we all know that is not a deterrent to us at HGV... we will always fight for the principles we stand on and the IP rights we must protect; we took on CE and Acacia and we are not scared to take on any other $100 million per year Goliaths...
i'm just a dude. you guys know this stuff in side and out. having you there would make the discussion and end result far more beneficial to the industry as a whole. i would actually like to see you on the board.
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we spend money enforcing so your second question is flawed. aff has a chance to deal with it NOW. there can be no compromise if the parties are taking stances, ie. XPays against unfair competition at torrents vs. AFF et al for....
we are all entitled to opinions but ultimately any abuse of dmca provisions that are decided by a judge/jury will become a landmark for defining such a recent piece of legislation. XPays does not consider google or verio to be equivalent to AFF or Fleshlight as far as dmca is concerned.InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5
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DMCA DMCA DMCA DMCA....
Blah blah blah blah..
Most of you do not understand the DMCA, or the law, or how things work.
AFF is not a service provider and therefore is not afforded any type of DMCA safe harbor protection. AFF is, at the very least, a vicarious infringer, and almost certainly a contributory infringer.
Secondly, xpays, or any other rights holder has NO LEGAL OBLIGATION to send a DMCA notice, or a cease and desist letter. None. A rights holder, upon discovering any infringement, can simply file suit. The infringing parties first notice that they are in trouble would be when the process server knocked on the door.
A cease and desist letter is often sent as a courtesy, an opportunity to resolve the situation without the traumatic experience that litigation can become.
In my book, AFF's actions have certainly not warranted any such courtesy.
^^^^^^what he said.
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DMCA DMCA DMCA DMCA....
Blah blah blah blah..
Most of you do not understand the DMCA, or the law, or how things work.
AFF is not a service provider and therefore is not afforded any type of DMCA safe harbor protection. AFF is, at the very least, a vicarious infringer, and almost certainly a contributory infringer.
Secondly, xpays, or any other rights holder has NO LEGAL OBLIGATION to send a DMCA notice, or a cease and desist letter. None. A rights holder, upon discovering any infringement, can simply file suit. The infringing parties first notice that they are in trouble would be when the process server knocked on the door.
A cease and desist letter is often sent as a courtesy, an opportunity to resolve the situation without the traumatic experience that litigation can become.
In my book, AFF's actions have certainly not warranted any such courtesy.
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It already exists, please check the FSC site... Since late June that AFF has had a matching funds offer on FSC. Funny how they sudden decided around the same time that piracy was an issue they should look into (very slowly).It didn't look like anyone bothered to contribute to the last one (ASACP) when they held the $10,000 matching funds offer. Their biggest defenders and affiliates didn't even post or offer.
With FSC requesting donations now for their new scheme to investigate piracy after their huge 2257 success, maybe there will be another $10,000 matching funds and AFF will be a Platinum FSC sponsor while making no changes to their usual business model.Comment
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Pornorip has not responded to the DMCA as of yet. AFF can start showing good faith by insisting that their agent/pornorip takes swift action. The clock is ticking anyway. XPays reserves all its rights of enforcement and other rights it possesses notwithstanding the aforementioned suggestion.InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5
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Why does he need to give them a chance? They are on almost every torrent site out there and shown little disregard for it. Talk is cheap and Evan seems to have stopped the bullshit talk that everyone has on the boards and is finally taking action.Comment
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HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
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LOL at Damian. Sometimes I think you are Lars fake nick. They have been told hundreds of times on this board alone that they are on torrent sites. They don't care and welcome any traffic they can get. They are very bad for the industry. I'm going away early next week for a few days. But when I get back i'm going to be doing some digging. I don't care who's dirty laundry that I expose either. It's time for the bullshit to stop. I'll expose all the dirty fuckers and make sure they are held accountable. I of course will have lots of facts to back up what I say. I'm very happy that Evan is finally stepping up to the plate here along with Air3k and Far-L and JMM. I just hope that I can help out a little along the way. This is my career and if these fuckers think they can get away with fucking it over any longer they are sorely mistaken.Comment
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AFF has had plenty of time to get their shit straight, they don't make any effort in preventing and they haven't acted in a timley manner on concerns.
All they care is about the money commin in at the end of the day, not how it's getting there.Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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The guy was banned from AFF long before this thread - how do I know this? I made the time to ask. More than you did.
If any one should be suing XPays, perhaps AFF should be suing you?Comment
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