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  • JFK
    FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
    • Jan 2002
    • 67373

    #151
    One fitty Better shots


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    • DamianJ
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2006
      • 15808

      #152
      So I'm off ignore then?

      Lol, you have the will power of a duck.

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      • Grapesoda
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jul 2003
        • 46238

        #153
        Originally posted by Cherry7
        If you think Paul markham knows anything worth knowing about lighting you are deluding yourself and will waste your time listening to nonsense.

        There are a few very good books on photography and lighting...

        "Basic photography" by Michael Langford

        "Painting with Light" by John Alton.

        To name just two.

        These are by people who actualy know what they are doing. Paul Markham has taken the same picture over and over again, just changing the girl.
        pauls advice on lighting in the thread was spot on

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        • JFK
          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
          • Jan 2002
          • 67373

          #154
          Originally posted by DamianJ
          So I'm off ignore then?

          Lol, you have the will power of a duck.
          quack quack quack which way to the salad bar ?

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          • nico-t
            emperor of my world
            • Aug 2004
            • 29903

            #155
            paul...please.... stop posting. When i see a thread of you i already fall asleep just thinking of the big walls of text in there, that only the retards keep reading. People responding over and over, stop wasting your time. Count to ten en ask yourself this.. "why am i reading all this shit over and over again, and responding to it?"
            What's the point?

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            • Grapesoda
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jul 2003
              • 46238

              #156
              Originally posted by nico-t
              paul...please.... stop posting. When i see a thread of you i already fall asleep just thinking of the big walls of text in there, that only the retards keep reading. People responding over and over, stop wasting your time. Count to ten en ask yourself this.. "why am i reading all this shit over and over again, and responding to it?"
              What's the point?

              whoa... nothing get by you does it

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              • Jel
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2007
                • 6904

                #157
                Originally posted by nico-t
                paul...please.... stop posting. When i see a thread of you i already fall asleep just thinking of the big walls of text in there, that only the retards keep reading. People responding over and over, stop wasting your time. Count to ten en ask yourself this.. "why am i reading all this shit over and over again, and responding to it?"
                What's the point?
                Who's reading?

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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #158
                  Originally posted by nico-t
                  paul...please.... stop posting. When i see a thread of you i already fall asleep just thinking of the big walls of text in there, that only the retards keep reading. People responding over and over, stop wasting your time. Count to ten en ask yourself this.. "why am i reading all this shit over and over again, and responding to it?"
                  What's the point?
                  Thank you for your valuable advice. Now I've read it, mulled it over in my addled brain, wrote it down to get a better understanding, translated it into Swahili to see if it makes a song in that language, I can only think of one thing I'm confused over.

                  WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER TO OPEN THE THREAD AND REPLY?
                  Seems your only excuse is being a retard like you accuse others.

                  Now kindly you can

                  3 times.



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                  • TheSquealer
                    Mayor of Thneedville
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 26177

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER TO OPEN THE THREAD AND REPLY?
                    Seems your only excuse is being a retard like you accuse others.

                    Now kindly you can

                    3 times.
                    Because people are naturally drawn to a train wreck. You are it. A total mess. A total mess, worsened by the fact that you remain completely oblivious to what you are and that you remain in denial to the fact that you are the joke people are telling at industry parties.
                    Last edited by TheSquealer; 10-09-2011, 06:37 AM.
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                    Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #160
                      Originally posted by TheSquealer
                      Because people are naturally drawn to a train wreck. You are it. A total mess. A total mess, worsened by the fact that you remain completely oblivious to what you are and that you remain in denial to the fact that you are the joke people are telling at industry parties.
                      Can you tell me how shooting solo girl sets in Russia is illegal and shooting webcam isn't please.

                      Because I now know otherwise.

                      Nice to know you guys go to industry parties and talk about me. I never talk about you.



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                      • TheSquealer
                        Mayor of Thneedville
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 26177

                        #161
                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                        Can you tell me how shooting solo girl sets in Russia is illegal and shooting webcam isn't please.

                        Because I now know otherwise.
                        Like anything else besides taking a picture, you know nothing about what you like to think you know.

                        I didn't say porn/cams were not illegal in Russia. You aren't going to teach me anything about Russian law on the subject either. Production and distribution of "pornography" is illegal. The definition of "pornography" is gray. Further, you can get legal clearance (an actual permit) if you can show what you are producing has some artistic merit in which case it falls under the definition of "erotica".

                        I know you like to think you are looking smart... but its ok, because I like to watch you fully implode each time you do and be exposed for the total fucking moron that you are. So you know, there have been people shooting porn legally in Russia since the early 90's. There is a guy in St Petersburg (SP-Company) who has shot full production, hardcore porn films at the Hermitage and most famous historical landmarks there. ... OH...of course... you knew that. LOL

                        Stop pretending you "know" anything Paul. You're just embarrassing yourself each time you like to think you're making a point.

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                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                        • TheSquealer
                          Mayor of Thneedville
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 26177

                          #162
                          And.... FYI when the wave of cam studios getting shut down happened nation-wide a few years back in Russia,, they generally used tax codes, not laws on pornography to apply pressure.

                          I'm sure you knew that too. Dumbass.

                          Tell us all more about what you "know" so we can keep pointing out that your are a hapless retard who's life work is now nothing more than shitty filler content on failed tgp's and a loss leader to sell cam and dating memberships.
                          .
                          Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #163
                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                            Like anything else besides taking a picture, you know nothing about what you like to think you know.

                            I didn't say porn/cams were not illegal in Russia. You aren't going to teach me anything about Russian law on the subject either. Production and distribution of "pornography" is illegal. The definition of "pornography" is gray. Further, you can get legal clearance (an actual permit) if you can show what you are producing has some artistic merit in which case it falls under the definition of "erotica".

                            I know you like to think you are looking smart... but its ok, because I like to watch you fully implode each time you do and be exposed for the total fucking moron that you are. So you know, there have been people shooting porn legally in Russia since the early 90's. There is a guy in St Petersburg (SP-Company) who has shot full production, hardcore porn films at the Hermitage and most famous historical landmarks there. ... OH...of course... you knew that. LOL

                            Stop pretending you "know" anything Paul. You're just embarrassing yourself each time you like to think you're making a point.

                            OK my mistake, I admit to it when I make one.

                            You were going to fly girls who were working in Russia on webcams, in permanent studios. To Prague at a cost of $300 to $400 each and I assume someone would come with them. So total $1,000 for a week.

                            You were then going to put them up in a hotel. Let's say really cheap 2 rooms $100 a night for 6 nights $600.

                            Add a bit for food, you would feed them wouldn't you. $100.

                            Then rent a car to get from the hotel to the studio or go by taxi? $100

                            So we could shoot inexpensive sets of them. 25-30 which the minimum we would charge would be $200 a set. That would not of been on one of our good digital cameras and not with me, Eva or Katka because we are to good to waste time on this work. not being snotty, but all three of s would be shooting sets way above the value of $200 a piece.

                            Sets $5,000 to $6,000
                            Travel, accommodation, etc. $1800.

                            Total cost to you $7,800 for 30 sets = $260 a set.

                            And you could get a license to shoot in Moscow as "erotica".

                            Hang on do the girls get paid?

                            Yes that sounds very believable and now I really understand you're a notch above me I would never of been able to figure out a great idea like yours.

                            That or you are a lying scum bag who all along wanted to use our studio for web cams and I told you to



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                            • TheSquealer
                              Mayor of Thneedville
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 26177

                              #164
                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                              That or you are a lying scum bag who all along wanted to use our studio for web cams and I told you to
                              Paul, you can't prove you aren't an idiot by continuing to be an idiot.

                              I had my own reasons for wanting to shoot content outside of Russia for that project. Tickets were cheap and renting an apartment in Brno was cheap. Visas were easy. Shooting was cheap. Its not more complicated than that. At the time (2004) wages were still higher than in Russia, more girls in CZ had fast connections than in Russia and studios in CZ were already falling apart due to that fact, so there is no logical reason to try to start a studio in a place where it was clear had no future in that respect.

                              You can keep trying to spin things to make it sound like you turned me away because you're just so super and can afford to be picky. less than 2 years later you were on this forum begging for money, so I don't think anyone is believing that besides you.

                              You sit here and pose questions because its the only way you can deflect attention from the fact that we met you, thought you were unstable, and pain in the ass, thought your studio was a filthy rats nest and did not believe you had the business acumen to actually last much longer, much less be a fitting long term partner to meet our needs.

                              Now the business has left you behind. You can't even be seen in the rear view mirror of the online porn world...

                              So, ... go give your wife a hug, kiss your daughter, tell them you love them and devote this time and energy to them. You don't have much time left in this world. They deserve the love of their husband and father while you're here on this earth for the next few months.

                              This forum however, doesn't deserve the continued rantings of a deranged lunatic has been, with zero credibility outside of taking "it all looks the same to me" teen photosets - a market which was the first to be fully saturated.
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                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                              Rochard

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                              • TheSquealer
                                Mayor of Thneedville
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 26177

                                #165
                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                That or you are a lying scum bag who all along wanted to use our studio for web cams and I told you to
                                So I just now realized...

                                After you fully imploding, repeatedly calling me a liar, denying you ever met me, denying that my manager and myself flew to Prague and made a trip to Brno to meet you, denied ever discussing business with me, denied me and my manager coming to your studios, denied us both being at your home for dinner, denied us coming with you on a photoshoot, denied repeatedly following up with me to get the business... only to finally be caught in your own lies when I pulled out some old pics... you are now suggesting that I was somehow a "scumbag" because I had some ulterior motive to "use your studios" and was somehow trying to con you... then of course, somehow making me the bad guy and you the good guy who got lucky you didn't get conned?

                                What ever meds you are on, normally the advice at this point would be to up the dosage but in your case.. seriously, please don't. Don't change. Insane forum Paul is much funner than "humble Paul" who goes to shows.

                                At this point Paul, Playboy needs to be compensating you for page views and the comedy you bring to this forum. Seriously, don't let them play you by giving you a tongue in cheek joke of an award that really makes fun of you, you need to demand fair compensation.

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                                Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                Rochard

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                                • Cherry7
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 3564

                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by bm bradley
                                  pauls advice on lighting in the thread was spot on
                                  There was not advice on "lighting", there was how to light one shot. Blast it with flat light from the front.

                                  The books I suggest are by people, who are qualified by training and experience to write about photography and lighting.

                                  I would suggest people get their knowledge from sources such as those and not someone who has had no training, does not read books, does not know you can change lenses on a DSLR, has no idea what an editing program does, who thinking he knows everything.
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                                  • TheSquealer
                                    Mayor of Thneedville
                                    • Oct 2004
                                    • 26177

                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by Cherry7
                                    There was not advice on "lighting", there was how to light one shot. Blast it with flat light from the front.

                                    The books I suggest are by people, who are qualified by training and experience to write about photography and lighting.

                                    I would suggest people get their knowledge from sources such as those and not someone who has had no training, does not read books, does not know you can change lenses on a DSLR, has no idea what an editing program does, who thinking he knows everything.
                                    You don't think the guy who repeatedly states that he's not a photographer should be telling actual photographers how to light a set for a shoot?

                                    Whats next? You gonna start saying that the guy who's never managed traffic or ran a successful pay site shouldn't be lecturing others on how to manage traffic or make their pay sites better?

                                    .
                                    Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                    • EukerVoorn
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Aug 2011
                                      • 1423

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by DamianJ
                                      Now, anyway, this job you've got teaching young children English, is it actually in Brno? I am googling all the tefl places to send them a little dossier I have on you.
                                      Damian you made your point clear enough by now. To a certain extend it's even funny. But you claim to be a director of ASACP, and I doubt if they would be happy with what you are doing here. Because you are putting the focus on someone who is labeled as a child molester by you without having any ground for that, in the meantime someone somewhere is ramming his dick into the ass of a 4 year old boy and someone else is filming that. Let's keep the people fighting this horrible trade focus on that, ok? In the past I've reported child porn producers to the police in Amsterdam and they didn't have time to look into it because they were already fully occupied investigating porn in which babies are getting abused. So don't go bother anyone about a 63 year old guy who might become a teacher. He won't get hired anyway because he won't make it through the health test. And again, you made your point. You hate Paul just like you hate about half of the rest of the world, we know that now, time to move on, thank you.

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                                      • porno jew
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Nov 2006
                                        • 10166

                                        #169
                                        i was reading about those books and it mentioned the methods and techniques are outdated.

                                        Originally posted by Cherry7
                                        There was not advice on "lighting", there was how to light one shot. Blast it with flat light from the front.

                                        The books I suggest are by people, who are qualified by training and experience to write about photography and lighting.

                                        I would suggest people get their knowledge from sources such as those and not someone who has had no training, does not read books, does not know you can change lenses on a DSLR, has no idea what an editing program does, who thinking he knows everything.

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                                        • Cherry7
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2005
                                          • 3564

                                          #170
                                          Originally posted by porno jew
                                          i was reading about those books and it mentioned the methods and techniques are outdated.

                                          Styles change but not the methods and techniques. All the flags and gobos are still in use. Same lamps but with newer bulbs. The basis of lighting and photography is physics and that has not changed.

                                          They are still in use on every film set in the world, very few DOPs ever wrote books about lighting, that is the best that I have come across.

                                          If you think a furniture salesman knows better you are free to follow his advice.
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                                          • DamianJ
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2006
                                            • 15808

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by EukerVoorn
                                            you are putting the focus on someone who is labeled as a child molester by you without having any ground for that,
                                            No, Paul said, and I quote "teachers must have an iron will" to resist fucking the kids in their care.

                                            Nothing to do with me labelling him. It's his own words.

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                                            • Paul Markham
                                              Too old to care
                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 52942

                                              #172
                                              Originally posted by DamianJ
                                              No, Paul said, and I quote "teachers must have an iron will" to resist fucking the kids in their care.

                                              Nothing to do with me labelling him. It's his own words.
                                              Hello troll.

                                              And you're nearly lying again. I was talking about 16 year old and just resisting their approaches. Go post the thread and it's context.

                                              Is this you again Damian http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1041105 http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1041008

                                              Got your style all over it.



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                                              • porno jew
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Nov 2006
                                                • 10166

                                                #173
                                                you get hit on by 16 year olds often?

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                                                • Paul Markham
                                                  Too old to care
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 52942

                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                  Paul, you can't prove you aren't an idiot by continuing to be an idiot.

                                                  I had my own reasons for wanting to shoot content outside of Russia for that project. Tickets were cheap and renting an apartment in Brno was cheap. Visas were easy. Shooting was cheap. Its not more complicated than that. At the time (2004) wages were still higher than in Russia, more girls in CZ had fast connections than in Russia and studios in CZ were already falling apart due to that fact, so there is no logical reason to try to start a studio in a place where it was clear had no future in that respect.

                                                  You can keep trying to spin things to make it sound like you turned me away because you're just so super and can afford to be picky. less than 2 years later you were on this forum begging for money, so I don't think anyone is believing that besides you.

                                                  You sit here and pose questions because its the only way you can deflect attention from the fact that we met you, thought you were unstable, and pain in the ass, thought your studio was a filthy rats nest and did not believe you had the business acumen to actually last much longer, much less be a fitting long term partner to meet our needs.

                                                  Now the business has left you behind. You can't even be seen in the rear view mirror of the online porn world...

                                                  So, ... go give your wife a hug, kiss your daughter, tell them you love them and devote this time and energy to them. You don't have much time left in this world. They deserve the love of their husband and father while you're here on this earth for the next few months.

                                                  This forum however, doesn't deserve the continued rantings of a deranged lunatic has been, with zero credibility outside of taking "it all looks the same to me" teen photosets - a market which was the first to be fully saturated.
                                                  Yes we all believe you. It was cheaper to fly a girl here, get an apartment, get a shooter to shoot cheap sets of her and then fly her home. Than it was to get someone in Russia to do it. Like you. You seem to know so much.

                                                  And far easier than getting it shot in Russia.

                                                  We all believe you Mr no nick nobody.



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                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                    Too old to care
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 52942

                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                    No, Paul said, and I quote "teachers must have an iron will" to resist fucking the kids in their care.

                                                    Nothing to do with me labelling him. It's his own words.
                                                    Damian very seriously not trolling you, as I don't think it's a trolling matter.

                                                    You're obsessed with peoples sexuality, or what you see as something not right about their sexuality. You see in a fooling around paid scene, something no shooter sees. You accuse people of being a pedophile, DVTimes of wanting a Gay experience. You're shocked a pornographer would have sex with a porn model.

                                                    Is there a dark shadow in your past or are you unsure about your sexual feelings?

                                                    Have you ever thought of seeing a therapist?



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                                                    • EukerVoorn
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Aug 2011
                                                      • 1423

                                                      #176
                                                      Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                      No, Paul said, and I quote "teachers must have an iron will" to resist fucking the kids in their care.

                                                      Nothing to do with me labelling him. It's his own words.
                                                      Trust me Damian, a real pedophile will never admit on a forum that feels being attracted to kids. Caught pedophiles are always the ones people least expected it from. That's what makes them so dangerous. If pedophiles would put a tattoo that says "I'm a pedophile" on their forehead it would be easy for everybody to keep their kids away from them and lock them up for life.

                                                      Now if you ever find some real child porn producers or crush video producers you can e-mail me and I'll take the first flight to Luton and I'll come help you out killing and burrying these people.

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                                                      • EukerVoorn
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Aug 2011
                                                        • 1423

                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by porno jew
                                                        i was reading about those books and it mentioned the methods and techniques are outdated.
                                                        In another forum I got these suggestions:

                                                        "The Art of Photographic Lighting" by Michael Busselle

                                                        Studio Photography by John Child

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                                                        • TheSquealer
                                                          Mayor of Thneedville
                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                          • 26177

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                          Yes we all believe you.
                                                          Paul, there is no "we" in your threads. There is only "you" and those that make fun of you for your complete lack of self awareness, condescending tone and absurd analogies of successful business by a failed businessman. YOU have zero credibility.

                                                          We all believe you Mr no nick nobody.
                                                          So in spite of meeting me in person and you knowing what I do, my "nickname" and "no sig" is suddenly a point of contention that makes you look like less of a dumbass or less of a liar?

                                                          Uhm... haha. OK
                                                          .
                                                          Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                            Too old to care
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 52942

                                                            #179
                                                            Originally posted by EukerVoorn
                                                            In another forum I got these suggestions:

                                                            "The Art of Photographic Lighting" by Michael Busselle

                                                            Studio Photography by John Child
                                                            Lighting for porn is so elementary, unless it's for an Artistic level, the need for a book is 0. These books will confuse you rather than anything else.

                                                            You need to know how light works. How it can be controlled and getting a light meter.

                                                            Then testing shots on the laptop or computer.

                                                            I'm starting to think Damian's problem with sex, is himself. Either his own feeling or experiences. As you say no one with something to hide is so blatant about it. He's always pointing fingers.

                                                            Like the con man is always thinking everyone else is a con man.



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                                                            • DamianJ
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                              • 15808

                                                              #180
                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                              You're obsessed with peoples sexuality, or what you see as something not right about their sexuality.
                                                              Not at all. How many people's sexualities have I ever commented on? Two.

                                                              I think it's creepy that you said teachers must "have an iron will" to avoid fucking the children they are in charge of. Especially as you are meant to be teaching English next year. And I think it's funny DVTimes advertised for a man to bum on Usenet.

                                                              That's hardly me being obsessed with people's sexualities, is it now?


                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                              You're shocked a pornographer would have sex with a porn model.
                                                              Far from it, I am embarrassed a porn professional tries to cop a feel from a model he has paid to shoot, not grope.

                                                              Hope that clarifies your confusion. Any other questions let me know.

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                                                              • Cherry7
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2005
                                                                • 3564

                                                                #181
                                                                [QUOTE=Paul Markham;18481288]Lighting for porn is so elementary, unless it's for an Artistic level, the need for a book is 0. These books will confuse you rather than anything else.

                                                                QUOTE]

                                                                You are confusing what you do, which is take the same photograph over and over again with the concept of lighting. Lighting is a technical and creative art allowing a person control over the image. Allowing them to make new and exciting pictures, moods and stories.


                                                                We know your disdain for books and culture (except your e-book), but within books can be found real knowledge and understanding.
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                                                                • Jel
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                  • 6904

                                                                  #182
                                                                  No-one can learn to shoot porn from books!

                                                                  ps, I write essays on gfy telling you how to shoot porn. Oh, and I'm writing an e-book as well.

                                                                  lol, what a proper cunt you really are

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                                                                  • Jel
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2007
                                                                    • 6904

                                                                    #183
                                                                    And to say that in a thread called 'how to shoot better porn' that you fucking created is pretty funny too.

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