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How Do Tubes Convert Cam Traffic?

09-28-2011, 07:18 AM

In many threads where people ask about tips on converting cams most of the ones who successfully do say that the traffic must be targeted. That is must be cam traffic (seo, trades etc.).

If this is so then how do tubes convert their traffic into cam sales?
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09-28-2011, 09:51 AM

They convert because they have HUGE VOLUME,
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09-28-2011, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by seeandsee

They convert because they have HUGE VOLUME,
and they collect all good "WEBCAM BUYERS" in "corner" from the MILLIONS of visitors
, simply by serving webcam ads to all visitors!

you hve answer for every question or every thread? omfg..
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09-28-2011, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by CaptainWolfy

you hve answer for every question or every thread? omfg..

He is right, we do pretty good on tube sites with pop unders and im pop ups, we just got a new one thats got a bar accross the bottom of the screen

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09-28-2011, 10:40 AM

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09-28-2011, 10:43 AM

Stupid question. Look around. Do you really think people are retarded? Videos are free man. Live cam interaction is not. That's how the convert. It allows people to actually interact with a real person rather than jerk their 3 inchers to the same old stolen pixelated Jayden James getting assfucked by 2 black guys content.

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09-28-2011, 10:44 AM

Yep tubes convert our cams very well also

Having nice lookin banners with a bit of sales text is key.

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09-28-2011, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Harmon

Stupid question. Look around. Do you really think people are retarded? Videos are free man. Live cam interaction is not. That's how the convert. It allows people to actually interact with a real person rather than jerk their 3 inchers to the same old stolen pixelated Jayden James getting assfucked by 2 black guys content.
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09-28-2011, 01:10 PM

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09-28-2011, 01:36 PM

I'd love to know ctr to cams from a tube. I doubt very much they 'convert great' in the traditional sense, ie aim for cam traffic, ctr of 20+%, and decent (in todays market) ratios. They most likely convert well ratio-wise in actual click-thrus, but a ctr of <10% is pretty shit unless you have volume, which is obviously key as to whether the ROI is worthwhile - which I'm sure it is.

What I'm saying, in a fucking long-winded way, is 1:300 is a 'good ratio' on a site that has upwards of 20% ctr, but if you convert 1:100 and have a ctr of say 3%, you can't say it's a good converting site, per se.

I predict the above will be totally mis-read btw lol, late here (for me) so may not have come out as coherent as it could have
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09-28-2011, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Jel

I'd love to know ctr to cams from a tube. I doubt very much they 'convert great' in the traditional sense, ie aim for cam traffic, ctr of 20+%, and decent (in todays market) ratios. They most likely convert well ratio-wise in actual click-thrus, but a ctr of <10% is pretty shit unless you have volume, which is obviously key as to whether the ROI is worthwhile - which I'm sure it is.

What I'm saying, in a fucking long-winded way, is 1:300 is a 'good ratio' on a site that has upwards of 20% ctr, but if you convert 1:100 and have a ctr of say 3%, you can't say it's a good converting site, per se.

I predict the above will be totally mis-read btw lol, late here (for me) so may not have come out as coherent as it could have

Doesn't really apply here, when you figure in CTR, are you setting the price as well? PPS or Rev share, rev share for a good cam account is going to be a hell of a lot bigger than for say a pay site

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09-28-2011, 02:26 PM

Yeah, hence my ROI comment - 'converts good' doesn't really apply to a tube, when it's the volume that makes the ROI so worthwhile, even with a shitty ctr.
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09-28-2011, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Jel

Yeah, hence my ROI comment - 'converts good' doesn't really apply to a tube, when it's the volume that makes the ROI so worthwhile, even with a shitty ctr.

I think for the quality of the traffic and considering the high payout average of a good cam network, it's a good bet to use pop unders or im pop ups on a Tube to make the best use of the space

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09-28-2011, 02:40 PM

Agreed also, I was just commenting really on the whole 'great converting tubes' mindset tbh :
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09-28-2011, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Jel

Agreed also, I was just commenting really on the whole 'great converting tubes' mindset tbh :

sometimes when you have crap traffic, you do what you can, I remember getting pretty creative in my TGP days.

But I have seen some good numbers as in overall revenue coming from Tube accounts.

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think about that
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09-28-2011, 02:44 PM

cams don't convert...its a waste of traffic -> 1:10,000...

tube convert because they have millions of hits.

with massive traffic you can sell anything.. but only a 5% of webmasters have that traffic, the rest 95% are affiliates who can't convert cams...
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09-28-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Argos88

cams don't convert...its a waste of traffic -> 1:10,000...

tube convert because they have millions of hits.

with massive traffic you can sell anything.. but only a 5% of webmasters have that traffic, the rest 95% are affiliates who can't convert cams...

LOL, you're not paying attention are you? If they don't convert, how can the company I work for been have in business for over 15 years?

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09-28-2011, 02:46 PM

So for tube traffic, that converts in the 1:XXXX's, but depends what tube we talk about too. We had bad luck in send tube traffic to clothed chat home pages, so we send these to tubecamgirl.com which at least they not close immediately as there's free shows (as a cam4 or myfreecams). This does not mean they buy immediately! They simply do free register at 1:XXX ratio, or just look without register. I see this week first time payments of people who came from tube 2-5 months ago, even from skimmed redirects or popunder - trash traffic for trash I not even believe in banners, I hijack them better blind and pops and their dity to close or bookmark our site.

About conversin ratio only, best traffic for our cam site it is pay member areas traffic of course, as I assume it is for every cam (or other) site. Ratio is 1:XX , cool, but total traffic from member areas a cam program can get it is limited, and I think decreasing.
For member area we use a cam plugin, but I assume while labels do well too (we not do whitelabel).
I add I could get pay users from xxx torrent trading forums, when you do run of network or buy generic US traffic in brokers, you never know where it comes from, I checked referers and full dvd rip archive trading sites converted better then 10 min tube clips sites!

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09-28-2011, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Vendzilla

sometimes when you have crap traffic, you do what you can, I remember getting pretty creative in my TGP days.

But I have seen some good numbers as in overall revenue coming from Tube accounts.

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09-28-2011, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by adultmobile

So for tube traffic, that converts in the 1:XXXX's, but depends what tube we talk about too. We had bad luck in send tube traffic to clothed chat home pages, so we send these to tubecamgirl.com which at least they not close immediately as there's free shows (as a cam4 or myfreecams). This does not mean they buy immediately! They simply do free register at 1:XXX ratio, or just look without register. I see this week first time payments of people who came from tube 2-5 months ago, even from skimmed redirects or popunder - trash traffic for trash I not even believe in banners, I hijack them better blind and pops and their dity to close or bookmark our site.

About conversin ratio only, best traffic for our cam site it is pay member areas traffic of course, as I assume it is for every cam (or other) site. Ratio is 1:XX , cool, but total traffic from member areas a cam program can get it is limited, and I think decreasing.
For member area we use a cam plugin, but I assume while labels do well too (we not do whitelabel).
I add I could get pay users from xxx torrent trading forums, when you do run of network or buy generic US traffic in brokers, you never know where it comes from, I checked referers and full dvd rip archive trading sites converted better then 10 min tube clips sites!

taking traffic out of a members area, you should use a white label for branding, the members never have to leave your site that way.

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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09-28-2011, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Harmon

Stupid question. Look around. Do you really think people are retarded? Videos are free man. Live cam interaction is not. That's how the convert. It allows people to actually interact with a real person rather than jerk their 3 inchers to the same old stolen pixelated Jayden James getting assfucked by 2 black guys content.

Then why is it that I can convert porn (which is free) and dating (live interaction) but not cams?

I can sell the free stuff, I can sell the possibility of live interaction but not live cam interaction itself.

Why do many other webmasters say the same thing and have the same problem? The only answers I used to read were that traffic has to be targeted and tube sites don't have cam specific traffic. That's what puzzles me.

Volume seems to be the only answer that makes sense (for tubes) but what are they converting at?
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09-28-2011, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by mopek1

Then why is it that I can convert porn (which is free) and dating (live interaction) but not cams?

I can sell the free stuff, I can sell the possibility of live interaction but not live cam interaction itself.

Why do many other webmasters say the same thing and have the same problem? The only answers I used to read were that traffic has to be targeted and tube sites don't have cam specific traffic. That's what puzzles me.

Volume seems to be the only answer that makes sense (for tubes) but what are they converting at?

Shoot me an email, tell me your marketing strategy and maybe I can give you some advice that will work better

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09-28-2011, 05:44 PM

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09-28-2011, 07:23 PM

Tube traffic will convert but other targeted traffic will show better conversion and ROI. It can average out depending on the referral model -- paid advertising or rev-share affiliate referral.

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