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08-03-2007, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by FleshJosh

I don't have the time or energy to respond to everyone's claims but I will make a statement that should encompass the general mood here. We are NOT trying to make people stop using SE or prohibiting people from using our name on their pages. It is simply a PPC thing. As for giving back to the affiliates who have "branded" our name, we do. It's called a 30% payout and it's just about the best you're going to find in the toy industry. Do you think it's fair for an affiliate to bid against us on our own name, drive up our costs on PPC, then get the 30% payout on top of that? If any affiliate would like to beef up their SE ranking and do well in the organic results, we have absolutely no problem with that. We just don't feel it's right that someone can open up an adwords account, simply put the name "Fleshlight" in their bid terms, and start making money of a name that we have been branding for 10 years. In reference to the smart ass comments being made by some, it's not unexpected I guess it hurts a little that I have NEVER made a negative comment toward any company and in fact, generally try to find something nice to say when companies post a new product or service but yet others can't seem to use that same mentality and want to jump on a bashing bandwagon rather than hit me up personally and discuss whatever problem(s) they are having. If anyone has any questions or needs anything at all, please hit me up.... 345334957 or [email protected]

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#102

08-03-2007, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Ya Im fucking Pissed at you..........................

Pissed we never snuggle anymore...

100 twink snuggles....

I wish my favorite twinkster was here in sunny Florida with me...I'll try to live up to your reputation tonight but it's going to be tough
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08-03-2007, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by FleshJosh

I wish my favorite twinkster was here in sunny Florida with me...I'll try to live up to your reputation tonight but it's going to be tough

I had planned on being there... Still thinking of taking last minute flight. Have a pass already. Too much going on bah.. Lets chat chat when you get back if I dont show up down there
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08-03-2007, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

I had planned on being there... Still thinking of taking last minute flight. Have a pass already. Too much going on bah.. Lets chat chat when you get back if I dont show up down there

Sure thing...I hope you make it!
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08-03-2007, 09:59 AM

jesus get a room.

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08-03-2007, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by will76

jesus get a room.

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#107

08-03-2007, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Young

You're obviously someone that didn't invest your hours, money, traffic and hard work into helping build Fleshlight into the brand that it is today....only to be told to either comply or leave it all on the table.

No, I'm not. However, others in this thread have mentioned that Fleshlight's terms have always been this way. What that means to me is that anyone complaining about them didn't read them.

If thats the case, it's no ones fault but your own. I'm not trying to be a prick, but it is their company. They can run it however they choose. If people don't agree with their terms, they can simply choose not to promote them.
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#108

08-03-2007, 02:17 PM

Fuck them, they support torrents.

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08-03-2007, 02:35 PM

I am impressed by a company so protective of adwords and so arrogant about allowing the torrent people to send traffic and make money.

I guess they only feel that infringing is bad when they are the ones getting infringed.

I am seeing a pattern in all of this: Any company that brings no distributable product to the table (dating, fleshlight, sex toys, cams) all pretty much appear to have no issue with torrent sites because they are never going to get ripped off themselves.

They are apparently very protective of thier own names and products, though.

Get a clue people - most of these companies are robbing you blind and fucking you in the ass without lube.
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#110

08-03-2007, 03:02 PM

interesting thread. makes me hesitant about starting a se campaign with them. if i out rank them will they have problems?
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#111

08-04-2007, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by hungry hungry hippy

interesting thread. makes me hesitant about starting a se campaign with them. if i out rank them will they have problems?

No problems whatsoever...I would love for you to build up your organic search results
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#112

08-06-2007, 07:12 AM

Bad PR disaster for Fleshlight Jesus get some people in there that know how to do there damn jobs
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#113

08-07-2007, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by U.R.A.M.F.S

Bad PR disaster for Fleshlight Jesus get some people in there that know how to do there damn jobs

Are you saying I don't know how to do my job?
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#114

08-07-2007, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by BoyAlley

Why the fuck would they send that out to ALL of their affiliates, making it sound like all accounts are in violation?

And how the fuck are you suppose to promote someone without using the name of the product?

Are people suppose to call them "fuck sleeves" instead of "fleshlights" now or wtf is their drama?

I'd think that everyone using the name "Fleshlight" has done wonders to brand them to the consumers no?

i got it as well.. and deleted it. they can cancel my account anytime.. i can't convert them but funny thing is you can't use fleshlight as a keyword lol... how can you sell them like that? lol

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#115

08-07-2007, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by FleshJosh

Do you think it's fair for an affiliate to bid against us on our own name, drive up our costs on PPC, then get the 30% payout on top of that?

There we go... the truth lies within. This is all about PPC costs which is what everyone's been saying all along. Here's an idea - instead of fucking over the affiliates who are probably competing amongst themselves for those same words, why not stay out of the PPC market on Google altogether? You seriously think you'll do better than those affiliates who've been pushing you since day 1 and honing their keywords to drive the best traffic that converts?

Actually scratch that...I guess it sucks that you'll also have all the referrer URLs from Google in the logs, so you'll know EXACTLY which terms to bid on. Talk about playing dirty. Thank god I don't promote you - would of been a glorious waste of my time. I feel bad for those who already do.

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#116

08-07-2007, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by beerptrol

We also prohibit the use of keywords, search terms, and domain
names that contain any variations of our Trademarks, such as
"Fleshlight,? for use in search engines, portals, sponsored advertising services,
or other search and referral services. If you send visitors from any
site we consider an unacceptable traffic source, your account may be
cancelled, and any monies owed to you will be forfeited.

holy shit this is wrong on so many levels
if i would get an email like this from a sponsor i use i would drop them in a heartbeat.
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#117

08-07-2007, 08:46 AM

hm shady shit seems to attract nice words from bros, i love the objectivity in this biz
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#118

08-07-2007, 08:50 AM

and this surprises you because?

didnt ramos rep that company for a while?

nuff said
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#119

08-07-2007, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by cj_purve

What a bunch of idiots!
Please don't use the name fleshlight to promote fleshlights or we'll come get ya. LOL

They hope to keep the keyword "fleshlight" at .05 a click.

Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!
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#120

08-07-2007, 09:21 AM

Josh, why are the torrent site comments not being addressed?
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#121

08-07-2007, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by sharphead

There we go... the truth lies within. This is all about PPC costs which is what everyone's been saying all along. Here's an idea - instead of fucking over the affiliates who are probably competing amongst themselves for those same words, why not stay out of the PPC market on Google altogether? You seriously think you'll do better than those affiliates who've been pushing you since day 1 and honing their keywords to drive the best traffic that converts?

Actually scratch that...I guess it sucks that you'll also have all the referrer URLs from Google in the logs, so you'll know EXACTLY which terms to bid on. Talk about playing dirty. Thank god I don't promote you - would of been a glorious waste of my time. I feel bad for those who already do.

First of all, there is nothing wrong with trying to manage the ppc costs on our own trademarked name. Secondly, we don't rely on affiliates' data to determine our keyword selection, that is determined by our own adwords campaigns that we have been running for a long time. Lasty, you say that companies are "playing dirty" if god forbid they analyze their traffic information. If you honestly think that every single company that you will ever promote doesn't analyze their overall stats to determine the direction of their marketing, you need a reality check. I'm sorry that you don't promote us because honestly, we have awesome conversions and are going to have tons of new stuff to promote/make money in the VERY near future. If you ever change your mind, please hit me up as I'm sure we could do some profitable BUSINESS together.
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#122

08-07-2007, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by FleshJosh

First of all, I NEVER said you couldn't use AdWords...I said you couldn't use our trademarked name in AdWords. If you want to promote Fleshlight through the use of other AdWords, that is fine.

You morons advertise on torrent/porn tube sites, people hate you for doing it, and you don't want your affiliates to promote your products using your name?

ARE YOU FUCKING SICK? WHATS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM?

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#123

08-07-2007, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by FleshJosh

First of all, there is nothing wrong with trying to manage the ppc costs on our own trademarked name.

You want people to respect your fucking trademark on PPC engines but you don't respect other people's copyright, you suck, go fuck yourself

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#124

08-07-2007, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by xmas13

You morons advertise on torrent/porn tube sites, people hate you for doing it, and you don't want your affiliates to promote your products using your name?

ARE YOU FUCKING SICK? WHATS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM?

And when did I say I don't want affiliates to promote our product using our name? We specifically said for ppc purposes. We did NOT say that affiliates could not use our name for any other type of marketing of our product.
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#125

08-07-2007, 11:34 AM

is this a aryan brotherhood approved device?
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#126

10-19-2011, 11:35 PM

interesting....

Originally posted by U.R.A.M.F.S

New Email

To All Affiliates:

This is a blanket e-mail addressing some concerns that have been voiced to us regarding an earlier email. We are not specifically targeting any affiliates out there and by no means were we trying to implicate any individuals as not adhering to our Terms of Service. The purpose of the earlier e-mail was to remind everyone of the Terms and Conditions and to give anyone bidding on trademark terms a reprieve.

More specifically, we are taking a more aggressive stance on the PPC aspect of our affiliate program. We are trying to weed out those PPC affiliates who may be taking away from our business by giving customers the impression that they are fleshlight.com (http://fleshlight.com) by using it in their display URL.

There was also some confusion about the use of fleshlight being in your domain name. To clarify, we are NOT stopping the use of fleshlight domain names, and any affiliate who has a site with the fleshlight name in it does NOT need to shut it down.

Please keep in mind that this is a blanket email (as was the earlier one) reminding everyone of our Terms and Conditions. We have sent this email as a service to our valued affiliates and once again apologize for not marking the earlier email as a "mass communication"

Thanks for all the hard work,

The Fleshlight Team

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