Never seen before pics of the WTC tragedy

Utterly amazing.

ugh - why did i click - the photos of people jumping have freaked me out for the 10 years since, any time 9/11 gets mentioned the images just come to me and make me weak - unimaginable horror

you'll never hear a peep from me in all these political threads about Bush and the wars - would not bother me one bit if the Middle East was nuked into oblivion. good people die every day, not going to worry about ignorant hate filled failures who have declared war on us.

That makes two of us. Kill them all, every last one of them. Fuck them.

Sad as fuck....

Looking at these pics again, make me want to punch that asshole Media Guy in the face for complaining about the added coverage 10 years later in the media.

What a horrible thing, the very last moments of your life you're given 2 choices. Do I die by being burned to death, or do I die from impact. I always hoped for the choice of dying in my hospital bed or going home and dying in my own bed, dying at home or wondering into the woods and dying as a part of the world I was born from, dying with family and friends or alone, choices that are expected, and that have some peace and comfort.

Those poor souls, I can't imagine how terrified, and alone they felt during those final moments.

I don't like seeing the added coverage either. What person would want to relive this horrible day over again?

It's real simple, change the channel. But to come on a US Board and bitch about it happening, stupid.

"Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

Unfortunately, society has a very short memory when it comes to tragic events. A year goes by and it's just a faint memory, we are still upset about it because we've become conditioned to be upset, but we (and I use we as a generalization of society as a whole) aren't really sure why.

Reminders like this are good, however morbid.

I'm young enough and was far enough removed from what happened in New York not to really have had a major psychological impact from it. Even being in Arizona though, I along with my family felt the effects of it. My father ran a travel/vacations company (a subsidiary of a MAJOR airline) that was incredibly profitable pre-9/11, and not too long post-9/11 they closed their doors and my family moved out of state as my dad took another job.

A lot of people over dramatize their reaction about what happened, but I think we all felt it in some sense of the word. Some lost family, friends, co-workers. Others lost their homes. People lost their jobs. It being ten years or ten days or ten decades after the fact shouldn't matter. What should matter is that we remember that day not for what it was, but for what it should teach us as a nation. We are so comfortable and removed from the hatred and violence elsewhere in the world, and were reminded that it can be delivered right to our doorstep.

Frankly we're all lucky (not that it happened, but in general). That was the first significant attack on US soil since 1941. And there hasn't been a war fought primarily on US soil since the civil war. People in many other countries have been fighting wars for hundreds of years. It's all they know.

I'm not one to say that we should be sensitive and all hippy-like going around hugging everybody, but a little understanding goes a long way in bettering ourselves.

Same thing I was thinking what a fucking choice to make.

How can the world be so fucked up of a place that people do shit like this and think they've accomplished something good..?

as much as youd like to think it, people in the middle east are the same as you, equals, and the idea that you would champion the mass genocide of a people simply because of their race is disgusting

it would not bother me one bit if every asshole like you was forced to jump from a building twice as high on to 10 ft spikes

i love how all of you love saying things like 'how can people do this?' but the fact that it was a small group of extremists doing it versus what your government does daily on a mass level

do you think people in the middle east don't burn to death? how many pictures do you want to see of children burned to a crisp by american bombs? small babies burned to death by american weapons

dont ask yourself how can people do this - ask yourself how can WE do this - stop making 9/11 a reason to be racist and ignorant of what the US does in the world every day, 9/11 is childs play compared to what people in the middle east have gone through at the hands of americans

That is a natural reaction, and it was the intended reaction which the madmen that perpetrated this horrible crime wanted. The countries they were from didn't want a war with the US.

It's important to keep in mind that the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia (15), UAE (2) Egypt (1) and Lebanon (1).

We haven't attacked any of those countries.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the Al Qaeda terrorists had a similar mindset about the U.S., as you have towards them, when they lashed out indiscriminately at civilian targets.

The human cost has been enormous in terms of injuries and deaths among combatants and non-combatants (civilians) alike, for all involved (both allies and enemies).

The money we have spent in avenging 9/11 over nearly 10 years now, has been crippling to the US economy as well. When you add up all of the costs - spending for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, creation of the massive new Dept of Homeland Security, etc, all while cutting taxes on the wealthy, it's not hard to see where much of the federal budget deficit came from.

Not everyone in the Middle East is a terrorist or even anti-USA. I would venture to say that most people in the Middle East still do not wish to have a war with the USA, even though we have been conducting combat operations in the Middle East for nearly a decade (and let's not forget Abu Ghraib, no WMDs, Rendition, Torture/Water Boarding, Guantanamo, Blackwater, and the list goes on and on).

I think it's time to move forward with beginning to stand down, and to get most of our troops home as expeditiously as possible. Many of our troops have been on multiple tours. One of my longtime neighbors has done half a dozen tours in the Middle East now, and he tells me that the troops are pretty much sick of the whole business, and they don't get much more patriotic then my neighbor - he actually volunteered for most of his tours.

We can debate about the size and composition of the troops going forward, but the important thing is to move forward smarter.

Among the primary reasons the Soviet Union collapsed is due to the huge amount of military spending on the arms race, and in fighting a decades long protracted guerilla war in Afghanistan. Let's not make that same mistake.

Give peace a chance...

ADG (US Navy Veteran, 6 years)

I was driving into NYC that day and something told me I had to turn around, at the time I was living in NJ that day was the 1st fight Turboface and I had. He wanted to go into the city as we were more than half way there. Thank god I was driving or we would have been right there in the middle of that shit.

amen

collateral damage, find how many people died from NATO interventions all around the world all this years, and they call themself a protectors that is even worse... I cry for all people...

Can you just survived a commercial airliner crashing into your building, ALL the exits to escape are completely blocked and your last hope is a gaping hole in the side of a building (which was caused by a boeing 747?)..... Then you jump. That was one brave soul right there, a tragic loss.

GGurls, when I hit your link I get this "Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL"



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Don't click on his site if you use facebook. Scumbag automatically "likes" from his site. And posting shit about 9/11 to get people to click on your site for that shit, you deserve to fall from a building, piece of shit.

I like your user handle.

don't fool yourself. the media isn't doing all this coverage out of the goodness of their caring hearts.

Hey - was complaining about over-coverage, exagerated coverage - was complaining about the news outlets over killing it.

:D

Stop waving your fucking flags, and read this again motherfuckers.

Perfectly put

all death sucks.. sucks even worse that after being attacked we went on a rampage and killed thousands and thousands of innocent women,children and elderly that had nothing to do with 9/11, sucks even worse that we still haven't learned from the mistakes we have made and continue to kill more innocent people , all in the name of revenge.

he's a Palestinian - what do you expect him to say? They've only had 5,000 years or whatever to get their shit together over there, how much more time should we give them?

The United States is how old? Nothing but rocks, trees, lakes, desert, plains - and in just over 200, not 2000, years look at what was produced. Take a look at what's been produced in Israel in less than 100 years.

The Middle East is an embarassment to mankind. It's like the mentally ill or alcoholic person in a family who is the tail that wags the dog and brings down everybody else to their level.

Here's an interesting question, why do these people worry so much about anything, they're all true believers, like the cretons who flew into the WTC who believed there were 40 virgins waiting for them in heaven after carrying out the deed?

We have religious freedom here, if you took a poll on GFY asking who believes in an afterlife as conjured up by religious fundamentalists the number would be laughable it would be so small. We care about this life, the only life we are given, and we don't want it spoiled or cut short by a bunch of cretons who for all intent and purpose are still living in 2000 BC. Except of course for the whore mongering terrorist funding cocksuckers who won the oil lottery.

I don't want to see children and the common man and woman die - not in the Middle East or anywhere BUT jesus christ..................

It's funny how you think that the Middle East is the embarrassment while the rest of the world looks at the US in disgust. YOU are the embarrassment to everyone else.

The Palestinian people are held in the world's largest open air prison. They aren't allowed to get things that me and you use every single day. Their economy isn't allowed to take off and their infrastructure is constantly being bombed and razed. How are Palestinians supposed to do anything in those conditions? When countries like the US are supporting tyranny and dictators how do you expect the Arab people to do anything but survive?

Seems to me without owning people, the United States is nothing. Slavery started you, and the end of slavery on an international level will finish you. And the end is soon for the US, it is clearly written and laid out for everyone to see.

Sure the US has all this flashy shit but I can go to the bank right now and get all a loan and buy all sorts of flashy shit, doesn't mean it's mine. The almighty US is a failing experiment, and while the Middle East has lasted through thousands of years, the United States is bound to fail before 300 years of its history has run through.

Your racism is disgusting. It is on par with the way Hitler thought about Jews and even worse than the way your grandparents thought about their black slaves. When your great grandfather was thrusting in and out of a black slave as he raped her, he probably was having the same thoughts you are having now.

Who is this 'we' you talk about? Are you saying white people? Or Americans?

Because if you think that Americans don't believe in the afterlife the same way that people in the Middle East do then that's just laughable. Your top politicians are highly religious and believe they will go to heaven or hell when they die and that's not to mention the vast majority of Americans that believe in the same thing.

Last of all, you need to rethink who it is that brings everybody down to their level. The Middle East minds itself, it is countries like the US who bring murder and torture to those countries. When is the last time a Middle Eastern country attacked the US on US soil? Never. Mankind isn't embarrassed by people living in peace, it is embarrassed by a bunch of savages who got where they were by stealing, raping, slaving, murdering and nuking people into submission, not to mention the overwhelming racism that still exists till this day in the US.

Go on though, keep being a racist, keep advocating the mass murder of an entire population because of their race. You would make your rapist great grandfather proud.

moeloubani you are fucking deep! and correct... People think the US is so mighty and actually are sneaky as hell... I don't like the people who orchestrated this tragedy but of course that don't mean all the middle east is bad...
I suspect that too

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Too much traffic at one time, just refresh it..

Shut your wack ass up.. I'm a webmaster and I use my brain to get hits, don't like it? too bad... and how in the hell am I using a big tragedy for hits? Stupid, when you post a story you want people to see it. In case you didn't know the biggest job of a webmaster is to get hits... When you get as much traffic as us, then you can talk idiot...

Same here.

I wonder as well ....

the middle east has let religion hold them back for centuries. you can blame whoever you want, the palestinian issue is different but as far as the majority of muslim middle east countries, they haven't progressed much due to their religion. they need to evolve past their archaic religion. the middle east has been at war with itself long before the US even exisited. The beginnings of many countries are full of bloodshed and they are no exception. people in middle eastern countries are also very racist, so don't get on your high horse. sure YOU might think its justified but people in america and other countries seem to think its justified to be racist against those in the middle east..so who is right? NO ONE.

mutt always liked and respect you dude but how normal americans feel to god hate fags group is how the majority of Islamic people feel towards those who did this.

moeloubani wow your an idiot. you critise the USA so much yet here you are on a U.S. board posting freely your opinions knowing that you are 100% safe and free to do so.

that has got to be quite a special feeling yeh?

He didnt do it. To stupid. Why do you think Dick Cheney had to accompany him to the 9-11 commision hearing behind closed doors?

Probably knew it was going to happen.



That is a monster.

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Because its a US board he's not allowed to express his feelings? Last I looked we all are allowed freedom of speech.

what has got to be a special feeling? freedom? does freedom mean im not allowed to criticize the US? if that's what you think then you're crazy man

and to those saying that there is racism in the middle east i agree, there is racism, and racism is NEVER justified no matter who is doing it
you'll never catch me wishing harm on anyone because of their race. that's barbaric and Mutt should be ashamed of himself for even bringing it up.

that's EXACTLY what I am saying mate. You have hit it spot on I am surprised. You are allowed to criticise the US government and that is what makes the USA such a great country.

Try criticise the majority of governments in this world and you won't be long for this world.

thats the "special feeling" I am getting at.

See above. ^^

I never saw the pics (or clips) of people jumping. I always stayed away from it...
Jesus Christ !
I'm so shocked, even after 10 years. I hate those fucks like you wouldn't believe (terrorists). I wanted to join the very next day, but got refused. Health problem, was good only for the kitchen (my sight suck ass) !

Anyways, i will never ever forget that day because of the tragedy of course but also because the assholes made me loose a pile, but A PILE of money (aftershock stock market) ! So when you had up everything, i could easily go where these cowards hide and track them down and hang them by THEIR BALLS no problem with that !

None. It's not really the USA's business. That's part of the problem. Wasn't the business of Britain either. That's another part of the problem. Pretty hard to advance to a modern state when you have no state to begin with and have never had the opportunity to decide your own fate.

You say that like the USA started out from nothing. Although it has mutated in 235 years, the USA was basically just a branch that snapped from the 'tree' of the UK, based on the same language (not even any spelling differences in 1776), same laws, same culture, same religions and customs, same education, same people basically. Not a country of existing people throwing off the shackles of a foreign oppressor (that's more aptly applied to the natives who failed, and were slaughtered) just Europeans working (and stealing) new land.

The USA, being an independent (not oppressed) European country located on another continent, benefited from all the advancements not only within the USA but in Europe and the European Empires.

People were criticising Libya which, unlike the USA which has been able to expand and exploit as much land and resources as it could over the last 235 years, has been restricted to borders arbitrarily drawn on an atlas by Europeans. Unlike the USA, it was a people oppressed and exploited and prevented from having the same self-determination that Europeans, including the ones that settled in what is now the USA, have taken for granted for centuries. Despite this it had advanced considerably in the past 40 years under Gaddafi, and is now in a new phase (if you believe the hype) of becoming "democratic". Libya is 60 years old.

Now what was so great about the USA aged 60? In 1836 it was an unimportant, relatively powerless and backward European settlement of 25 states that nobody gave a fuck about, with endemic lawlessness, violence and racism, abuse and maltreatment of native Americans, slavery not to be abolished for another three decades and the vast majority of the population unable to vote. Amazing.

The power of the USA has come about almost entirely because of its nauseating opportunism in WWII, appeasing Hitler, taking advantage of the internecine warfare that nobody does better than white people (despite the clueless shitheads who think that's an 'Arab' trait) to profiteer from the war, build up its military industrial complex, and destroy the British Empire.

Since the war the 'independent' third world was simply a chess board for the USA and USSR to fight their proxy wars. Arming, overthrowing and destabilising countries for their own ends, regardless of the consequences for those countries.

Then you blame those countries for the state they are in, as if the USA has just minded its own business for the past 60 years.

Well they produced the worst peacetime naval attack on the USA since Pearl Harbor in 1967. And ever since then have had the USA's balls in a vice, extracting billions every year from American taxpayers. All the while causing enormous problems for the USA and Americans, and tainting the USA's reputation around the world, especially the Middle East. Yes, quite an achievement.

the pictures are really sad and you do have to feel for people who only have the option to jump from such a height but, from some of the posts above it is obvious that the american public still do not understand why their govenment's foreign policy makes america hated so much.

I lived and worked in London through much of the late 80's/early 90's and got caught up in many bomb scares and the like, you guys have no idea how much life was disruped during that time due to the IRA, any parcel or even a large fast food package abandoned was enough to cause a bomb scare but everybody knows that the biggest supporters of the IRA was the americans.

Sad pics indeed

I just hope that this guy's wife and children can't recognize her husband / their father from these pics.

Nobody deserves to die like that. Absolutely terrifying.

The world changed that day. Although I'm a stereotypical pascifist Canadian, in my mind those two pics justify everything that the U.S. has done since 9/11.

You reap what you sow, and some insane bastards planted some very deep seeds. Just be thankful that the U.S. never stoop to the level of the "terrorists". (In quotes, because "insane cowards" is more accurate).

If the U.S. played by the same rules as the bat-shit insane extremists who planned 9/11, three quarters of the world would be charred and black. The United States did not change the rules - a bunch of insane Saudis did. After 9/11, America decided it wanted its ball back - and now its going to take its sweet fucking time retrieving it.

What the fuck did you think was going to happen? Did you ever actually think that the fucking United States of America would idly stand by (Oh, that's ok! Let's enter negotiations!) after a number of its citizens dove 1,200 feet to their deaths because they didn't want to die in a fire?

Now we live with the fallout and the consequences. If I was in charge when 9/11 happened, I would have done things to the world that President Bush probably never even dreamed of in his worst nightmares.

tl;dr: The U.S. didn't start this shit, but - one way or another - they're gonna finish it.

wow what an idiot

50 guys launch an attack against the US so you want to wipe out the whole middle east ?

one again, wow, what a narrow minded, short sighted idiot you must be to make such a statement which ironically, although lost on most, guarantees you will be eating shit for years to come

enjoy

Pretty friggin crazy to think they weren't awakening a giant. Then again, whiten al Quaeda attacked a US warship, the USS Cole, Clinton doesn't reasons at all. He didn't even so much as TALK tough, so maybe al Quaeda really believed they could atyack is at will. The first time they bombed the world trade center, Clinton forbade the CIA from looking into it, ordering the FBI to release nothing to the intelligence community and treat it strictly as an ordinary crime perpetrated by just a few individuals. Perhaps, given those responses, it was reasonable to think that once again we would do nothing more than put a couple of disposable terrorist foot soldiers in jail.