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  • kane
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Aug 2001
    • 20684

    #46
    Originally posted by Gouge
    1.5 years? January 5, 2011 is when the Republicans took over the Lower House. And they cant have a Jobs bill without control of the Upper House, all they can do is piggyback on what the Upper House and Barry already have in place.
    I saw my typo, but it was too late for me to be able to edit it. They have been in control of the house for about 9 months now.

    They can feel free to pass bills and send them on to the senate. It is a two way street. They did it with their deficit reduction bill even though they knew it would be DOA upon arrival at the senate. If they had a legit jobs bill they could pass it, send it to the senate and then work with them to come up with a version of it that the senate would pass. Since the dems control the senate they would have to do this on the democrats time, but they could do it.

    The reality they have no legit plan, or at least they don't want to put one out until after the election. They want the economy to be bad so that it hurts Obama and gives them a better chance of wining back the white house so they came back into power in the house on the campaign chant of "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!" and like the democrats they too have done nothing to follow through on that promise.

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    • 12clicks
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jan 2001
      • 19813

      #47
      Originally posted by MarkPrince
      Define class warfare please.
      The constant lie that the rich aren't "paying their fair share" when the bottom 50% pay nothing.
      The constant lie of asking private get owners to pay a little more when he wants to raise taxes on people making $200k a year, none of whom own a plane.
      He panders to the least of us and they lap it up.
      Get it?
      Or do you lap it up like BFT3K and gatorB?
      Last edited by 12clicks; 09-09-2011, 02:47 AM.
      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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      • IllTestYourGirls
        Ah My Balls
        • Feb 2007
        • 14311

        #48
        Even my liberal friends, who voted for Obam, are saying this speech sucked and that the $400+ billion he wants will just go to special interest groups like the last stimulus packages. After all he has to start paying back those super pacs and corporations that will fund his reelection.

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        • SallyRand
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jan 2008
          • 3487

          #49
          Originally posted by 12clicks
          I watched it with my kids to show them the insidious nature of politics and liars.
          Even my kids understood the class warfare lies he trotted out
          What you wrote!

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          • Barefootsies
            Choice is an Illusion
            • Feb 2005
            • 42635

            #50
            Originally posted by GatorB
            Yes because fixing crumbling bridges, roads and dams is a BAD idea. Let's just wait until they all completely fall apart. Much cheaper that way. Bet you didn't know many of the bridges you drive over are 20 or more years past their expected lifespan.
            Agreed. Obama needs to stop the appeasement bullshit, and pass a jobs bill like the new deal. Pumping billions into public works projects to fix bridges, roads, and crumbling infrastructure. Most of it was designed to last 50 years, and it's well over that now.

            It would put a lot of these construction companies back to work (since the housing will not be turning around any time soon) and pump a lot of money into jobs, and the economy. While also investing in THIS country, instead of others like Iraq.

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            Enough Said.

            "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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            • Harmon
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              • Mar 2004
              • 20012

              #51
              50 Obama is a moron
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              • 12clicks
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 19813

                #52
                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                Agreed. Obama needs to stop the appeasement bullshit, and pass a jobs bill like the new deal. Pumping billions into public works projects to fix bridges, roads, and crumbling infrastructure. Most of it was designed to last 50 years, and it's well over that now.

                It would put a lot of these construction companies back to work (since the housing will not be turning around any time soon) and pump a lot of money into jobs, and the economy. While also investing in THIS country, instead of others like Iraq.

                people who build houses, don't build bridges and roads.
                If we hadn't wasted trillions on needless things, we'd still have money for important things.
                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                • spazlabz
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 6548

                  #53
                  I watched the speech with the understanding that no matter what he says or what his plan is it still has no chance of passing. The repubs will blast it and wait on it, slow it down and let it die.

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                  • 12clicks
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 19813

                    #54
                    Originally posted by spazlabz
                    I watched the speech with the understanding that no matter what he says or what his plan is it still has no chance of passing. The repubs will blast it and wait on it, slow it down and let it die.
                    because the tea party will not let the repubs sign on to wasting more money than they already have.
                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                    • nextri
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2004
                      • 1661

                      #55
                      You have to spend money to make money.
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                      • 12clicks
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 19813

                        #56
                        Originally posted by nextri
                        You have to spend money to make money.
                        you have to have money to spend money
                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                        • spazlabz
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 6548

                          #57
                          Originally posted by nextri
                          You have to spend money to make money.
                          I would agree with you on this except that in this case using the word 'spend' would make a vocal minority in the country lose their little minds. So it is important to note that it will be paid for by cuts proposed by the super committee

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                          • 12clicks
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 19813

                            #58
                            Originally posted by spazlabz
                            I would agree with you on this except that in this case using the word 'spend' would make a vocal minority in the country lose their little minds. So it is important to note that it will be paid for by cuts proposed by the super committee
                            those of us who actually run businesses and pay taxes understand that "spend" is government speak for "waste"
                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                            • IllTestYourGirls
                              Ah My Balls
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 14311

                              #59
                              Originally posted by nextri
                              You have to spend money to make money.
                              In the case of government spending to make money that is a broken window fallacy.

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                              • BFT3K
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 10764

                                #60
                                We really need 2 different Americas at this point. This is not working.

                                Maybe IQs under 100 can take back the South, and those with IQs over 100 can keep the North.

                                And then I want a fence with barbed wire and machine guns.

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