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  • Gouge
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2005
    • 1438
    #16
    Originally posted by BFT3K
    What's the Republican plan again?
    Pick one, there must be 20 of them out there floating around for you to read that have been proposed over over the past 2 years, 7 months, 21 days.

    Barry has had 963 days to come up with something and the best he can do is muster up a deja vu speech from 2009 that involves spending another $447 billion.

    This guy feeds you shit sandwiches and you smile while eating them.

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      • Gouge
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2005
        • 1438
        #17
        Since taking office, President Barack Obama has signed into law twenty-one new or higher taxes:

        Tax More Spend More for Barack "Hussein" Obama II.

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          • SuckOnThis
            So Fucking Banned
            • Oct 2003
            • 6844
            #18
            Originally posted by raymor
            #1 on my list works be to cut down on the hundreds of hours of government paperwork required for a small businesses (or any businesses) to operate legally. I spend maybe 10% of my time on BS government paperwork. Cutting that in half for all businesses would be an instant jump in gdp.

            We have a three person operation. We're required to file federal income tax four times per year. Unemployment tax four times per year. Business census yearly. Local business taxes for where our offices are and seperately for the city where kyte severs are. Businesss personal property tax, listing the values of our desks, chairs, and monitors. Sales tax four times per year. Franchise tax each year. Need I go on?

            We could increase our work force by a third if we could just file taxes twice per year instead of twenty times.

            This is a president who campaigned on "going after corporations". BetterCGI is a corporation. Gfy is run by a corporation. Your hosting company is a corporation, as are most of your local businesses that could be providing jobs if this president wasn't campaigning on the promise of "going after" them.

            I do agree with you on the filing issue, having to get all that shit together every 3 months and pay an accountant is a drain of both time and money. I think the whole tax code should be scrapped for something much simpler but I don't see that happening anytime soon. As far as 'going after corporations' I don't believe he ever made such a blanket statement, I believe his intention was to go after corporations that arent paying any taxes and closing loopholes. If I'm wrong point me in the right direction.

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              • seeric
                ..........
                • Aug 2004
                • 41917
                #19
                Nothing is going to happen. American government is and has been broken for decades if not centennials.

                Can you imagine if you tried to run a business like these idiots do? A conglomerate of bafoons equally opposed to the other sides ideologies. Constantly fighting and affecting the product in negative ways. In this case, the American dream is the product.

                Every bit of energy and time spent arguing and fighting is a fragment of forward momentum necessary to the recovery of the economy and the restoration if the American dream stolen from the people they are paid by. There should be no tolerance of this nonsense.

                They should all be fired. Every single one of them.

                Start over.
                Last edited by seeric; 09-08-2011, 09:31 PM.

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                  • raymor
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3745
                    #20
                    Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                    And what would you propose? More tax cuts for rich people, cut welfare completely and give more money to Israel?

                    You want to talk about entitlements. My best friend was fired when he told the boss to shove it. He waited until was close to the six month on unemployment, then started looking for a job. Right about them Obama decided you can collect unemployment for two years, so he sat on his ass for another 18 months while you and I paid his bills. When he was close to the two year limit, he went out and got a job. Tonight Obama proposed letting people like my friend sit on their asses for three solid years while you and I have to pick up the slack. That worked great the last time Obama did that, didn't it.
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                      • raymor
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 3745
                        #21
                        Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                        As far as 'going after corporations' I don't believe he ever made such a blanket statement, I believe his intention was to go after corporations that arent paying any taxes and closing loopholes. If I'm wrong point me in the right direction.
                        I would have fallen out my chair if I wasn't buckled in when I heard that on the radio special he played in Texas. I had to listen carefully the more times to be sure I heard it right. I knew Obama, who has never worked a day in his life for a business, secretly disliked business, but I was suprised he would say it flat out in his own commercial. Sure, I wasn't too suprised when he said the government has "management responsibilities" of private businesses, but I didn't expect him to straight out say he was coming after us.
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                          • SuckOnThis
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 6844
                            #22
                            Originally posted by raymor
                            You want to talk about entitlements. My best friend was fired when he told the boss to shove it. He waited until was close to the six month on unemployment, then started looking for a job. Right about them Obama decided you can collect unemployment for two years, so he sat on his ass for another 18 months while you and I paid his bills. When he was close to the two year limit, he went out and got a job. Tonight Obama proposed letting people like my friend sit on their asses for three solid years while you and I have to pick up the slack. That worked great the last time Obama did that, didn't it.
                            I don't know of any place you can collect unemployment if you're fired for telling your boss to shove it.

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                              • GatorB
                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 18208
                                #23
                                Originally posted by raymor
                                Anything new? To me it sounded like more of what's he's been doing the last two and a half years. I heard him boldly propose more FAIL. Did I miss something?
                                Yes because fixing crumbling bridges, roads and dams is a BAD idea. Let's just wait until they all completely fall apart. Much cheaper that way. Bet you didn't know many of the bridges you drive over are 20 or more years past their expected lifespan.

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                                  • GatorB
                                    The Demon & 12clicks
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 18208
                                    #24
                                    Originally posted by Gouge
                                    Since taking office, President Barack Obama has signed into law twenty-one new or higher taxes:

                                    Tax More Spend More for Barack "Hussein" Obama II.
                                    please enough with the hyperbole

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                                      • GatorB
                                        The Demon & 12clicks
                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 18208
                                        #25
                                        Originally posted by Gouge
                                        Pick one, there must be 20 of them out there floating around for you to read that have been proposed over over the past 2 years, 7 months, 21 days.

                                        Barry has had 963 days to come up with something and the best he can do is muster up a deja vu speech from 2009 that involves spending another $447 billion.

                                        This guy feeds you shit sandwiches and you smile while eating them.
                                        So someone is suppsoed to fix 8 years of fuck-ups in 2 1/2 years. Especially when he has republicans fucking his shit up and not letting him do his job.

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                                          • Gouge
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2005
                                            • 1438
                                            #26
                                            Originally posted by GatorB
                                            So someone is suppsoed to fix 8 years of fuck-ups in 2 1/2 years. Especially when he has republicans fucking his shit up and not letting him do his job.
                                            2 years, 7 months, 21 days...get it right.

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                                              • 2MuchMark
                                                Mark of 2Much.net
                                                • Aug 2004
                                                • 50966
                                                #27
                                                Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                Even my kids understood the class warfare lies he trotted out
                                                Define class warfare please.

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                                                  • Gouge
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                    • 1438
                                                    #28
                                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                                    please enough with the hyperbole
                                                    There is no exaggeration as to facts involved on that site, its directly from the IRS and very much common knowledge.

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                                                      • Gouge
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 1438
                                                        #29
                                                        Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                        Define class warfare please.
                                                        Class warfare is the tension or antagonism which exists in society due to competing socioeconomic interests between people of different classes.

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                                                          • raymor
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 3745
                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                                            I don't know of any place you can collect unemployment if you're fired for telling your boss to shove it.
                                                            Texas is one place. I've had reason to read up on this alot, really studying the government rules. That's because if the state pays unemployment to a former employee, I have to pay the state back by way of extra charges on my unemployment taxes. You're disqualified only for misconduct of a criminal type nature or intentionally damaging the company. I have to pay unemployment even if an employee just stops showing up unless I can prove they knew they could stol come back to work.
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