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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #1531
    Originally posted by AVN Theo
    that's all their onine store carries, i dont see why the offline to be any exception

    http://www.annsummers.com/webapp/wcs..._10001_Y_10230

    no more than 42 dvd titles. Novelty and more over lingerie sector doesnt like to be associated with porn and sex toy boutiques like them they keep a distance.
    Strange, it's only British videos. I remember going into their stores and seeing far more. Loads of US titles. Maybe that's just the mail order side.

    I have the reason. Those are 18 Titles. It's illegal in the UK to sell 18R via mail order. 18R is the hardcore porn titles.



    Had me confused there.



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    • plsureking
      bored
      • Aug 2003
      • 4898

      #1532
      Originally posted by Paul Markham
      Still part of the porn business.
      toys are not porn. just because it is related to sex does not make it porn. they are in the adult industry, but that is a huge macro market.

      Originally posted by Paul Markham
      That's the problem with online porn, it has a very narrow perspective. Other than the ability for small micro niches to have a better outlet for their porn, online porn is just a delivery platform for porn. It has rarely really done anything ground breaking.
      it actually seems like your problem is you are comparing online porn to many other markets, rather than focusing on what online porn IS. you have a problem with online porn -> you can't figure out how to make money online anymore. or, you can't make the money you want. this is your problem, not everybody's problem. that's where i came up with the throat cancer analogy. you think because you have a problem, everybody must have the same problem. its simply not true.

      i don't compare online porn to other markets (magazines, toys, sex shops), and i dont compare today's online market to the online market we saw 5-10 years ago. i get up every morning, find out where the opportunities are, and i make some money. if there's a new niche getting everybody excited, i check it out, even if its a dead niche tomorrow. today is what matters.

      there are still thousand of stock traders making money every day, even tho we are in a deep recession and many went broke. so is the financial industry dead?

      you are macro analyzing the online market and you are failing. your failure is producing negativity, which is counter-productive to our business and incredibly annoying. there are a lot of people in this business making a living with online porn. just because you are not does not mean the online market is dead.
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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #1533
        Originally posted by plsureking
        toys are not porn. just because it is related to sex does not make it porn. they are in the adult industry, but that is a huge macro market.
        Still a market over looked.

        it actually seems like your problem is you are comparing online porn to many other markets, rather than focusing on what online porn IS. you have a problem with online porn -> you can't figure out how to make money online anymore. or, you can't make the money you want. this is your problem, not everybody's problem. that's where i came up with the throat cancer analogy. you think because you have a problem, everybody must have the same problem. its simply not true.

        i don't compare online porn to other markets (magazines, toys, sex shops), and i dont compare today's online market to the online market we saw 5-10 years ago. i get up every morning, find out where the opportunities are, and i make some money. if there's a new niche getting everybody excited, i check it out, even if its a dead niche tomorrow. today is what matters.

        there are still thousand of stock traders making money every day, even tho we are in a deep recession and many went broke. so is the financial industry dead?

        you are macro analyzing the online market and you are failing. your failure is producing negativity, which is counter-productive to our business and incredibly annoying. there are a lot of people in this business making a living with online porn. just because you are not does not mean the online market is dead.
        Seriously and not flaming or having a go at you, but you couldn't be more wrong. This is the problem with so many, they read flamers then make up their own stories. Often to fit what they think is right.

        So lets examine the truth. And think about it.

        I'm a shooter. In 1999 I was faced with a decision about going online. Whether to expand the number of brokers, open my own content store or open a paysite.

        I spoke to many brokers at the Internext show in Vegas. Most came over as people not to be trusted or people who didn't have a clue what would sell or didn't have the money to pay me $300 a set for the license to sell online to other companies. They spoke about how much more I would make if I allowed them to sell exclusive for them. When talking to a man who offers you a $1,000 on a promise, for something you will sell for $300, you get suspicious.

        So came home, got a programmer and opened our own store.

        We were frankly amazed at the sales. If you were around then you will remember the saying "Non exclusive is saturated." To saturate a set in a members area, I need to sell it many times. It's main stream Teens niche. 20 sales would never saturate a set. Then there was often a video on top of the set.

        After a set had stopped selling, around 2 years we would ship it to Bargain Basement for $5 to $10. Can you imagine how many times people will buy sets at this price? Selling it 100 times isn't unusual. Eva and I could never understand why people with content stores would shoot custom for people paying $300 for a set and video.

        All this after the server and programming was paid was profit. The sets were already in profit because of sales offline.

        Go figure what 2000 sets and 500 videos have made over the years. Online and offline.

        During my years online I met countless site owners big and small. The picture many get is these guys are making millions. The picture I got was different. When it came to buying content these guys were always pleading poverty.

        When it came time to open a site we used the content we had made money off many times on the paysite, just another level of making money from the same content.

        If you remember the flame Squealer attempted to inflict on me here's some point. We had a studio, studio staff, office and office staff including programmers. Plus Eva was in the office, while our daughter was at home cared for by a nanny. Does that sound like someone who is broke?

        Yes we had a Ford station wagon. Yes we have only a 3 bedroom house. But we own everything. Just not big flash spenders, we put money into the bank or invest it.

        So did online porn fulfill it's true potential? Read on.



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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #1534
          So did online porn fulfill it's true potential?

          Never before the Internet was there the opportunity to deliver porn so easily. It went direct into the consumers home, via his computer.

          There was an obvious opening for the producer to go direct to the consumer in a very big way.

          The cost of delivery was low enough that micro niche sites could make money.

          The speed of adapting to consumers needs was nearly instant.

          The possibility of bring porn from your home to the home of the consumer in an instant.

          For some unknown reason, the pioneers of paysites decided porn was hard to sell and set about getting traffic by giving it away and spending a fortune doing so.

          Today millions get off for free, well actually it's very expensive. It's just free for those getting satisfied and never buying porn. They made a business where it took 1,000 consumers to get 1 sale.

          Some made some money, a very few made a lot of money. None made the money the porn moguls of old made. And none made a fraction of what could of been made if they had thought differently.

          You sell to little Ma & Pa operations. You promotional marketing says so.

          What ever you do make and the porn sites in your operation do make. The fact is still that millions today get off to free online porn who should be paying for it. And you don't need to macro analyze to know that.

          So no. Online porn never fulfilled it's true potential.

          Which is a shame really.

          We did nicely and now can sit back and spam out the whole store for a few $1,000 a time. Not to bad for a retired guy.



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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #1535
            So did online porn fulfill it's true potential?

            Never before the Internet was there the opportunity to deliver porn so easily. It went direct into the consumers home, via his computer.

            There was an obvious opening for the producer to go direct to the consumer in a very big way.

            The cost of delivery was low enough that micro niche sites could make money.

            The speed of adapting to consumers needs was nearly instant.

            The possibility of bring porn from your home to the home of the consumer in an instant.

            For some unknown reason, the pioneers of paysites decided porn was hard to sell and set about getting traffic by giving it away and spending a fortune doing so.

            Today millions get off for free, well actually it's very expensive. It's just free for those getting satisfied and never buying porn. They made a business where it took 1,000 consumers to get 1 sale.

            Some made some money, a very few made a lot of money. None made the money the porn moguls of old made. And none made a fraction of what could of been made if they had thought differently.

            What ever you do make and the porn sites in your operation do make. The fact is still that millions today get off to free online porn who should be paying for it. And you don't need to macro analyze to know that.

            So no. Online porn never fulfilled it's true potential.

            Which is a shame really.

            We did nicely and now can sit back and spam out the whole store for a few $1,000 a time. Not to bad for a retired guy.



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            • plsureking
              bored
              • Aug 2003
              • 4898

              #1536
              the druglord that could(nt)

              i heard a story about an aging druglord that went further and further into debt, putting his life and the life of his family at risk.

              it wasn't that he didn't understand the drug business. he practically invented the business, over 30 years of hard work and ingenuity. but as time went by, new players came into the business, employing new tricks and new products. he dismissed them as clowns and was sure they would disappear. he stuck to his ganja trade while these other kingpins grew in wealth and power.

              eventually these other lords invaded his business and territory, putting him at great risk. he tried to explain how he was once great, but they only cared about what he could do for them today. as his business sank into the ground, so did his wealth, until he was in terrible debt. he borrowed and borrowed, sure that his genius would save him.

              he preached to all the young druglords about how great it was in the "good old days", but they just saw a decrepit old man nearing the end. one day the old man's debtors came calling and he had to face reality. the knowledge gained by a lifetime of work wasn't worth the braincells now holding two bullets.


              that story is about all i can do for you mr. markham. you are a lost sheep...
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              • porno jew
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Nov 2006
                • 10166

                #1537
                for the porn consumer this is the best time it has ever been.

                thousands maybe millions of videos, pictures in every niche available for free, or cheap, in high quality.

                it is the high point for lovers of porn.

                you however, are at the lowest, reduced to selling the results of your life work for crap filler for a thousand bucks.

                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                So did online porn fulfill it's true potential?

                Never before the Internet was there the opportunity to deliver porn so easily. It went direct into the consumers home, via his computer.

                There was an obvious opening for the producer to go direct to the consumer in a very big way.

                The cost of delivery was low enough that micro niche sites could make money.

                The speed of adapting to consumers needs was nearly instant.

                The possibility of bring porn from your home to the home of the consumer in an instant.

                For some unknown reason, the pioneers of paysites decided porn was hard to sell and set about getting traffic by giving it away and spending a fortune doing so.

                Today millions get off for free, well actually it's very expensive. It's just free for those getting satisfied and never buying porn. They made a business where it took 1,000 consumers to get 1 sale.

                Some made some money, a very few made a lot of money. None made the money the porn moguls of old made. And none made a fraction of what could of been made if they had thought differently.

                What ever you do make and the porn sites in your operation do make. The fact is still that millions today get off to free online porn who should be paying for it. And you don't need to macro analyze to know that.

                So no. Online porn never fulfilled it's true potential.

                Which is a shame really.

                We did nicely and now can sit back and spam out the whole store for a few $1,000 a time. Not to bad for a retired guy.

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                • TrashyContent
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2008
                  • 2155

                  #1538
                  Props

                  Props to Reggie... great documentary piece, I want you to come shoot me now

                  Brave of Paul to open up as much as he did, I have to say there were bits of it that I found interesting, bits I found that made me laugh... but sorry also some bits that made me cringe...

                  I am glad Paul you got over your illness, and that your wife also recovered from her accident... more power to you. I also echo what many have said that you seem in real life to be totally different from how you come over on here...

                  I guess we can all be a bit misunderstood by what we say in a message on a forum... I know you will probably say that isnt the case... it's just my opinion I guess...

                  Anyways good luck on your ventures... good luck with your continued drive to improve your health... and what ever tomorrow holds well done on what you have achieved...

                  Now Fabian... I seriously am not going to shoot a scene for less than $6000 !

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                  • ReggieDurango
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 4784

                    #1539
                    Originally posted by TrashyContent
                    Props to Reggie... great documentary piece, I want you to come shoot me now

                    Brave of Paul to open up as much as he did

                    Thanks very much for your kind words TC, much appreciated. Obviously, couldn't have done it without Paul and his willingness to open up for the camera. He's a great subject for a piece like this.

                    Also thanks to Dean, JustDave, PK, Cherry, for the props as well

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                    • HardlinkSells
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 991

                      #1540
                      I still masturbate to video stills

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                      • lagcam
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 2890

                        #1541
                        Originally posted by plsureking
                        the druglord that could(nt)

                        i heard a story about an aging druglord that went further and further into debt, putting his life and the life of his family at risk.

                        it wasn't that he didn't understand the drug business. he practically invented the business, over 30 years of hard work and ingenuity. but as time went by, new players came into the business, employing new tricks and new products. he dismissed them as clowns and was sure they would disappear. he stuck to his ganja trade while these other kingpins grew in wealth and power.

                        eventually these other lords invaded his business and territory, putting him at great risk. he tried to explain how he was once great, but they only cared about what he could do for them today. as his business sank into the ground, so did his wealth, until he was in terrible debt. he borrowed and borrowed, sure that his genius would save him.

                        he preached to all the young druglords about how great it was in the "good old days", but they just saw a decrepit old man nearing the end. one day the old man's debtors came calling and he had to face reality. the knowledge gained by a lifetime of work wasn't worth the braincells now holding two bullets.


                        that story is about all i can do for you mr. markham. you are a lost sheep...
                        I think you meant creditors. The old man would have been happy if his debtors came to pay him
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                        • ReggieDurango
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 4784

                          #1542
                          Originally posted by Cherry7
                          The Behind the Scenes film is better than the film its covering.

                          It has shots, structure, editing....could be shorter for me...
                          Cherry, you're comparing apples and oranges! Thanks for appreciating the doc but obviously it is a completely separate animal than the solo scene Paul shot.
                          On a side note, to be fair to Paul, he didn't edit his scene, and some of the things he shot for it (like the intro in the park with the voiceover from Sandra) were edited out of his solo scene.

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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #1543
                            Originally posted by porno jew
                            for the porn consumer this is the best time it has ever been.

                            thousands maybe millions of videos, pictures in every niche available for free, or cheap, in high quality.

                            it is the high point for lovers of porn.

                            you however, are at the lowest, reduced to selling the results of your life work for crap filler for a thousand bucks.
                            Absolutely true. Never have so many consumed porn with so few buying it.

                            Yes after 3 years running on the content we shot over the years we now are selling out. Not many here could stop working and still take in money every day.

                            Thanks for backing me up.



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                            • Paul Markham
                              Too old to care
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 52942

                              #1544
                              PJ following on from your post about my content and the industry.

                              You can now see from Reggie's video the condition I'm in. So any idea of me coming back to a physical job is obviously delusional, I know that now. simply not fit enough. I have good days and bad days. The day of the shoot was a normal day for me. Fine if I'm sitting down, yet still tire very quickly if I work. The doctors feel I'm way ahead of schedule, it took Viv Thomas who had the same cancer as me 5 years to fully recover.

                              Yes the video had 3 criticisms. Among all the people who hate and flame me only 3 could find something bad to say.

                              1 was Cherry, who lives in a different world to me porn wise. The other were 2 shooters. 1 said I should of had a rose in the background, the other criticised the cost of the sofa. Do you think that's a failure? Considering my condition.

                              Manwin's editor chose for what ever reason to edit out the opening of Sandra walking to the shoot and her close at the end which clearly showed how much fun she had. Why I don't know. Any porn editor would of seen what I was doing and kept it in. It adds reality to the scene. Now it's just a girl on a sofa, add that and it has a structure, a porn model going to a shoot doing a job she loves and at the end showing why she loves it. Yes Cherry it was shot to give structure.

                              Reggie who saw the shoot, makes the comment about it being edited out. Why we will never know.

                              During the film I made a claim. I could improve the profits on Mofos. It's not an empty boast, I can do it and can back it up. I could do it for many sites.

                              PJ would you like to earn more from a sign up?

                              By increasing retention you will do that. Once money is spent the only thing that decides if a member stays 1 month or 2 or 6, is the members area. So many sites are just a stack of videos and sets. Little more structure than a tube site. The only difference is the narrow selection and the quality of the videos. Paysites are failing on this level.

                              I've been inside many and see the problem. People who don't really understand members needs, think in a single line and just spend to much time replacing lost members by driving more traffic to get new ones.

                              Someone once said, after discussing improving his members area, that a lot of people on GFY disagree with me. Are they members of paysites or trolls who don't like me attacking their way of making money. By driving traffic at sites that don't get the most out it?

                              Think about. A very old man in poor health was able to produce a scene that got very little flaming. After 3 years+ of shooting nothing, I'm still selling content. something fit and younger men have given up on. That has to be a win for me.



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                              • plsureking
                                bored
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 4898

                                #1545
                                Originally posted by lagcam
                                I think you meant creditors. The old man would have been happy if his debtors came to pay him
                                lol ya that..

                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                During the film I made a claim. I could improve the profits on Mofos. It's not an empty boast, I can do it and can back it up. I could do it for many sites.
                                i heard that claim and laughed. if the claim was true you would have more power and influence at this stage in life because your own sites would be doing millions a year. or are you saying you can't do this with your own sites because Mofos has superior content?

                                i remember you writing that you should do porn site reviews. here you claim to know how to fix every paysite. you write on gfy for hours every day but you aren't proving anything. like the college professor who teaches you how to run a business but could never do it himself. worthless chatter
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