It's harder to shoot porn today than it was back in the old days.

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  • DeanCapture
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    • Dec 2002
    • 9275

    #1516
    Originally posted by plsureking
    ..... his GFY voice is much different than his real life voice. he has much more sense of humor in real life. i always take him as a pessimistic blowhard on gfy..
    I totally agree with you
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    • Paul Markham
      Too old to care
      • Jun 2001
      • 52942

      #1517
      Originally posted by plsureking
      ya i only watched about a minute of the actual solo video. i didnt think it was very good, but the documentary was great. it gives insight into Markham's personality and state of mind. his GFY voice is much different than his real life voice. he has much more sense of humor in real life. i always take him as a pessimistic blowhard on gfy..
      I'm not pessimistic. I'm giving my honest view.

      Producing a low quality repeat buy product product, spending more money on giving it away than anything else. Is a recipe for a disaster. Be it in porn or baked beans.

      And now that's clearly true.

      In any business if 1,000s consume a product you have 1,000s of potential customers. Giving it away for free to those 1,000s to sell to 1 is a fail.

      Fooling yourself it works, shows a lack of understanding of business, marketing and selling.

      It's taking the easy road to make $1,000 and ignoring the harder way to make $1,000,000. What ever you did make was a fraction of what you could of made if you could of taken the harder route.

      That I suppose is ultimately why so many don't like what I post. They know if content was prized higher, members thought of more highly than surfers, then they would not of been able to work online. The low entry bar suited them.



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      • ReggieDurango
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2007
        • 4784

        #1518
        Originally posted by plsureking
        his GFY voice is much different than his real life voice.
        Absolutely. Having read him on gfy, then later meeting him in person, it was almost like 2 different people!
        Last edited by ReggieDurango; 09-08-2011, 12:31 AM.

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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #1519
          Originally posted by ReggieDurango
          Part 1:


          Part 2:


          only in 2 parts because of youtube time limits
          Thanks Reggie, great meeting you and being filmed by you. Will I see you in Prague? Filming a show might be a good project.

          Great to see Rajah as he was a few months ago. The mutt isn't so reluctant to go for walks now. Will post a film of him today, as soon as I find the lead to capture it off the camera. Lost it somewhere.



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          • GGurls
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2009
            • 206

            #1520
            Originally posted by Love Sex
            Its a lot easier to shoot porn these days.

            buy camera, pay model, shoot video, edit and upload or sell.
            I thought it would be easier today too...
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            • ReggieDurango
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2007
              • 4784

              #1521
              Originally posted by Paul Markham
              Will I see you in Prague? Filming a show might be a good project.
              Alas, I just don't think I can make it back to Prague for the show.
              Sucks, because I really want to go!

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              • plsureking
                bored
                • Aug 2003
                • 4900

                #1522
                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                I'm not pessimistic. I'm giving my honest view.
                when u got throat cancer did you tell yourself everybody else got it too? the whole industry doesn't have money problems just because you are having problems.

                there is more spent on porn now than there ever was at anytime in the last decade. there are just way more players taking a piece. its called the long tail. if you add up the annual sales of all the PornCMS customer websites, it is 10x+ higher than we were making in 2002-2004 at Hegre. there's just hundreds of sites sharing the same cake.

                you will never get the lion's share of the market anymore (although Manwin is trying), but you can do a hell of a lot better opening a good site than you can working a 9-5 or opening a local bakery.

                its all about perspective, Markham, and i think you lost your perspective, along with your motivation to be a player in this business.
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                • xholly
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 817

                  #1523
                  why was the naked model censored out but Paul Markham topless was was shown?

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                  • Theo
                    HAL 9000
                    • May 2001
                    • 34515

                    #1524
                    I'm glad Paul overcame his health problems

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                    • plsureking
                      bored
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 4900

                      #1525
                      Originally posted by xholly
                      why was the naked model censored out but Paul Markham topless was was shown?
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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942

                        #1526
                        Originally posted by plsureking
                        when u got throat cancer did you tell yourself everybody else got it too? the whole industry doesn't have money problems just because you are having problems.
                        No I didn't think everyone got throat cancer. Where did you get that idea?

                        As many are jumping out of online porn I would think many do. Or do you think they're getting out while making loads of money.

                        there is more spent on porn now than there ever was at anytime in the last decade. there are just way more players taking a piece. its called the long tail. if you add up the annual sales of all the PornCMS customer websites, it is 10x+ higher than we were making in 2002-2004 at Hegre. there's just hundreds of sites sharing the same cake.
                        You base this on what audited data. Or are you saying it's so and we accept it?

                        That's the problem with the debate of what made the most money, online or offline. The little date there is, is mostly offline and mostly the production end of porn. I suggest you look at the production figures of a major offline porn company, multiply the figure of titles produced by 10,000, multiply that by the sales price ($30-$40) in a shop, to get a better picture of offline porn. Then add rental and cable retail sales. And you have the revenue of the US market. Now think World Wide.

                        you will never get the lion's share of the market anymore (although Manwin is trying), but you can do a hell of a lot better opening a good site than you can working a 9-5 or opening a local bakery.
                        But not as much as could be earned opening a porn shop.

                        its all about perspective, Markham, and i think you lost your perspective, along with your motivation to be a player in this business.
                        Yes all about perspective. I have a perspective that covers online and offline porn. Yours is obviously just one narrow perspective.

                        For a perspective of the value of offline porn read this, Ann Summers on Wikipedia. In 2007-2008, Ann Summers had an annual turnover of £117.3 million( $200 million).

                        Scary hey. Do you know an online company doing that?

                        And this is why I'm negative about the route online porn took. Manwin could be making that, along with RK and Bangbros and others. In fact they could be making far far more. They don't publish audited accounts, so we can only guess.



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                        • Theo
                          HAL 9000
                          • May 2001
                          • 34515

                          #1527
                          Paul, novelties are not porn

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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #1528
                            Originally posted by Love Sex
                            Its a lot easier to shoot porn these days.

                            buy camera, pay model, shoot video, edit and upload or sell.
                            Why do you say that?

                            In the old days all we did was buy equipment, find model, book her, shoot her and sell it. No editing or uploading involved.

                            The biggest difference is digital. If they can't set the exposure right for stills, they're morons. Video was very much point and shoot. Stills film cameras were not expensive, film was a bit but $10 to $15 a roll isn't breaking the bank. Video cameras if you weren't stepping up to Beta weren't expensive.

                            So where is it easier today?

                            You mean it was harder to sell it back in the old days.

                            Originally posted by AVN Theo
                            Paul, novelties are not porn
                            Still part of the porn business. Online porn could of made far more in that field as well.

                            Are you saying the $200 million Ann Summers made was mainly sex toys and lingerie?

                            Remember when Times Square had porn shops on, run by the Mafia. Can you imagine what those shops made?

                            That's the problem with online porn, it has a very narrow perspective. Other than the ability for small micro niches to have a better outlet for their porn, online porn is just a delivery platform for porn. It has rarely really done anything ground breaking.

                            Paysite = Videos like DVD.
                            Cams = Pone sex and chatting with girls. Yes now you can see the girl.
                            Dating = Lonely hearts club.

                            Just adaptations of offline.

                            The problem is this obsession with traffic, the belief porn is hard to sell and the porn level of many people in online porn.

                            Traffic to porn is about the easiest thing to get. Selling it isn't that hard, when you have a method of delivery that goes world wide and into places where hardcore porn is banned, selling it is easy. People not understanding this is a shame and led us to where we are today. We always thought porn was hard to sell, maybe because those online were often never buyers? Heard the phrase so many time in the early days of "Why do they buy porn when there's so much for free?"

                            So we decided to go from a few million random images for free to God knows how much free porn is out there today.

                            We never grew the product as much as it was possible to do with an online distribution. We kept the level of the product to it's lowest possible price and concentrated on throwing expensive traffic at it. By giving it away.

                            We taught customers not to buy. Now the amount of traffic required to get a single sign up is a damning indictment on online porn.



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                            • Cherry7
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 3564

                              #1529
                              The Behind the Scenes film is better than the film its covering.

                              It has shots, structure, editing....could be shorter for me.....


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                              • Theo
                                HAL 9000
                                • May 2001
                                • 34515

                                #1530
                                that's all their onine store carries, i dont see why the offline to be any exception

                                http://www.annsummers.com/webapp/wcs..._10001_Y_10230

                                no more than 42 dvd titles. Novelty and more over lingerie sector doesnt like to be associated with porn and sex toy boutiques like them they keep a distance.

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