What would you do? Money vs Ethics

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  • Dubya
    So Fucking Banned
    • Feb 2008
    • 1152
    #31
    what registrar? there are some very shady ones out there.

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      • will76
        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
        • May 2003
        • 18037
        #32
        Originally posted by buildingfutures
        Now, I'm a very ethical and standup guy, but I don't see how a host can screw up something like this? I mean, if he paid for the domain, it's his. If he hasn't paid, tough luck, you lost your domain. But for some reason they're not responding.
        Reading this again.... you said you emailed the register about a domain name that hadn't been updated in a couple years (meaning the website is old), to see if they would email the owner if he would be interested in selling. This tells me two things (which you left out, but i guess was implied).
        1. The domain wasn't expired, if it was expired you would have purchased it out right.
        2. The owner didn't have his name on the whois, for some reason the register (must be a small company) registered the domain in their name, for the owner.

        Assuming the above is correct then there is no other explanation than the host made a mistake and didn't consult with the current owner. If you say you are an ethical and honest guy then I think you just answered your own question of what you should do next.
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          • porno jew
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Nov 2006
            • 10166
            #33
            not always "cased closed." there are plenty of mom and pop hosts who register domains in their name for their clients. the host may legitimately own it.

            Originally posted by Squirtit
            OH SHIT!

            I read the OP wrong I think.

            So do I have it right now? This four letter .nl was registered to a host, on behalf of an owner, and the host sold the domain for profit without the owners permission or knowledge?

            Give it back at cost. Very simple.

            If you don't give it back ICANN will, as the domain is clearly owned by the owner, not the host. You contacted the host and asked them to contact the owner so you could buy the domain from the owner. The host did not do as you asked or intended. The host sold the owners domain without his permission or knowledge. ICANN gives the domain back to rightful owner if you don't. Case closed

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              • Dubya
                So Fucking Banned
                • Feb 2008
                • 1152
                #34
                Originally posted by will76
                Reading this again.... you said you emailed the register about a domain name that hadn't been updated in a couple years (meaning the website is old), to see if they would email the owner if he would be interested in selling. This tells me two things (which you left out, but i guess was implied).
                1. The domain wasn't expired, if it was expired you would have purchased it out right.
                2. The owner didn't have his name on the whois, for some reason the register (must be a small company) registered the domain in their name, for the owner.

                Assuming the above is correct then there is no other explanation than the host made a mistake and didn't consult with the current owner. If you say you are an ethical and honest guy then I think you just answered your own question of what you should do next.
                It probably just had private whois.

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                  • porno jew
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 10166
                    #35
                    was the domain transferred to you? then how could the host do it if he didn't own it?

                    he owned it. he sold it to you. keep it and move on.

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                      • DaddyHalbucks
                        A freakin' legend!
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 18975
                        #36
                        If the person who sold it to you was not the actual owner, then it might be something similar to receiving stolen property. Are you a thief, or did you conspire with one? Make the right choice, and settle that question definitively and in your favor.

                        Something similar happened to me once. The rightful owner got the domain back for $0.
                        Boner Money

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                          • DaddyHalbucks
                            A freakin' legend!
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 18975
                            #37
                            Originally posted by porno jew
                            not always "cased closed." there are plenty of mom and pop hosts who register domains in their name for their clients. the host may legitimately own it.
                            Have you never heard of agency? Just because someone registered it for a client does not necessarily mean they own it.
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                              • HomerSimpson
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 13826
                                #38
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                                  • papill0n
                                    Unregistered Abuser
                                    • Oct 2007
                                    • 15547
                                    #39
                                    Originally posted by HomerSimpson
                                    looks like he decided to lick a little vag

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                                      • Deputy Chief Command
                                        Deputy Chief Command
                                        • Nov 2005
                                        • 4482
                                        #40
                                        Originally posted by will76
                                        the difference is the original owner didn't let it expire. It was paid for. The original owner *also* didn't do anything wrong. The register had no legal standing to sell it. The register can't touch someone else's domain unless it is expired.

                                        how do you know that? I vaguely remember something about how .nl domains NEVER expire .. so even if you stop paying the domain will still be in the hands of the person you regged it with .. and since you stopped paying it is no longer your domain .. not saying this is what happened here. .but how can you be so sure ?

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                                          • Deputy Chief Command
                                            Deputy Chief Command
                                            • Nov 2005
                                            • 4482
                                            #41
                                            I just looked it up to be sure.. it is indeed true that .nl domains don't automatically expire.. if you don't pay for the renewal the domain stays with the company that did the registration . they can then choose to keep it .. or they can ask sidn.nl ( the company in charge of .nl) to let the domain become available for registration again


                                            so in this situation it is very likely that the previous owner did not pay for renewal .. OP then contacted his registrar and he gave it to him if he paid reg fee.; all legit here. I think

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                                              • seanchai
                                                A Grooby Guy
                                                • Jul 2005
                                                • 397
                                                #42
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                                                  • Deputy Chief Command
                                                    Deputy Chief Command
                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                    • 4482
                                                    #43
                                                    Originally posted by seanchai
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                                                      • Bladewire
                                                        StraightBro
                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                        • 56229
                                                        #44
                                                        Originally posted by buildingfutures
                                                        So here's the deal. A few weeks ago I came across a very nice 4 letter .nl domain.
                                                        sidn.nl ?


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                                                          • Zorgman
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 6103
                                                            #45
                                                            Business is business. Sell it and make yourself some money.
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