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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #1

    Could this be a Strongbox issue?

    Maybe i'm wrong and i wouldn't have noticed it if it didnt happen to me twice in a row.

    It sure looks like sites that use Strongbox protection lock your ip if you enter your login / password wrong just 1 time.

    If you try again and enter it correctly you won't get in anymore. I guess untill someone manually clears your ip.

    Once again i might be wrong here but this happened twice in a row to me.
  • Anna_O
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 5773

    #2
    You have more than one try with strongbox. Not sure exactly how many, but at least three. Don't know if you can change that setting though...


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    • FakeNick
      Confirmed User
      • May 2007
      • 739

      #3
      its because you were caught sharing your password
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      • jerzeemedia
        Confirmed User
        • May 2004
        • 1532

        #4
        If you hit up Ray he's always really thorough and helpful.
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        • Azlord
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 2651

          #5
          Are you hitting the back button when you put in the wrong username or are you clicking the link to go back to the login page.

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          • FANTASTIC
            Registered User
            • Jul 2007
            • 45

            #6
            Fantastic info franck!
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            • Dirty F
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 59204

              #7
              Btw, not bashing them or anything. Im actually considering using them.

              Azlord, i really dont remember. I think i tried both.

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              • BV
                wtf
                • Sep 2001
                • 10914

                #8
                I know that's the case with ProxyPass, but it's also set to 3 times and then the 4th you are locked.

                It might be the IP you are trying to enter from also. If you are trying to access the site from a bad IP that is on their abuse list that might explain it. Probably not though because if you were you probably would not even see the login box and get redirected the first try.

                Maybe they have the settings set for only 1 incorrect login.

                Does it reset after a certain amount of time?

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                • ER!C L!VE
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 724

                  #9
                  I've had the same issue. The way I've found to fix that issue is to close all windows, relaunch firefox or internet explorer and try again.

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                  • Blue Player
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 679

                    #10
                    Proxy Pass rocks. I had it installed 3 years ago and I have to say it makes my life so much easier. It has saved me thousands.

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                    • Azlord
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 2651

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                      Btw, not bashing them or anything. Im actually considering using them.

                      Azlord, i really dont remember. I think i tried both.
                      I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. If you have tried a few times and have been unsucessful then you were block based on too many login attempts.

                      hope it helps

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                      • Dennis69
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 1685

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Azlord
                        I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. If you have tried a few times and have been unsucessful then you were block based on too many login attempts.

                        hope it helps
                        Yeah thats the problem because I was just hitting back and it blocked me so I got in touch with Ray to find out why
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                        • aico
                          Moo Moo Cow
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 14748

                          #13
                          Does not lock you after 1 failed attempt. But, if you do fail, and you hit the back button to try again, it will not load the new Text Image, but instead the cached one from your previous attempt, so you will fail again as the image will not match up.

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                          • Dirty F
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 59204

                            #14
                            Yes, that could be the problem. As i said im not sure what exactly i did but its certainly an option.

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                            • Axeman
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 5201

                              #15
                              Huge fan of Strongbox myself. But never had anyone locked out after just one attempt.
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                              • zand_stein
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 1438

                                #16
                                I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. .......

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                                • gmr324
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 1199

                                  #17
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                                  • Dirty F
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 59204

                                    #18
                                    Thanks. I will buy a copy one of these days.

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                                    • gmr324
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 1199

                                      #19
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                                      • raymor
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 3745

                                        #20
                                        You get a lot more than one try with Strongbox.
                                        Exactly how many depends on factors such as if you're accessing through a proxy
                                        and if so, what kind of proxy.

                                        The back button thing shouldn't be an issue at all with any recent version of Strongbox,
                                        even for that really crappy bug filled browser from 2001 that we have to put in all
                                        kinds of hacks for, IE6.

                                        The webmaster of the site can look at the Strongbox reports and see exactly
                                        why someone didn't get in. Most commonly they just keep entering invalid
                                        user names and passwords. There IP isn't blocked, they just never enter the
                                        correct user / pass.
                                        Last edited by raymor; 07-27-2007, 06:12 PM.
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                                        • aico
                                          Moo Moo Cow
                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 14748

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by raymor
                                          You get a lot more than one try with Strongbox.
                                          Exactly how many depends on factors such as if you're accessing through a proxy
                                          and if so, what kind of proxy.

                                          The back button thing shouldn't be an issue at all with any recent version of Strongbox,
                                          even for that really crappy bug filled browser from 2001 that we have to put in all
                                          kinds of hacks for, IE6.

                                          The webmaster of the site can look at the Strongbox reports and see exactly
                                          why someone didn't get in. Most commonly they just keep entering invalid
                                          user names and passwords. There IP isn't blocked, they just never enter the
                                          correct user / pass.

                                          The back button is an issue. It loads the image in the cache from the previous attempt so it is not the correct image to match up with the script. I have had strongbox installed in the last 3 months, and the back button creates bad image log ins, so unless your newer version is after that, then it is an issue with your current version.

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                                          • Penny24Seven
                                            So Fucking What
                                            • Jun 2007
                                            • 6287

                                            #22
                                            my strongbox report shows 100's of typos when the member tries to login, they fuck it up a lot typing with one hand haha
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                                            • Jamie
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 2517

                                              #23
                                              I was using Strongbox and Ray offers great support.

                                              But eventually we moved to a in house Geoip login system, We built a much better system and I honestly believe Geoip tracking is the way to go.

                                              We had issues with SB, one user was considerd "good" by SB, yet he had logged in from Australia, Germany and the U.S. That was the last straw and we moved to a Geoip solution... it fixed our shared PW issues...
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                                              • raymor
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 3745

                                                #24
                                                Well it seems that at least one browser has changed it's behavior and now isn't even
                                                consistent, acting differently on each page load. Strongbox, Gmail, Google maps,
                                                and a thousand other applications have just recently been updated to handle the new
                                                inconsistencies. To update your Strongbox site, add the following to the BODY tag
                                                of sblogin/badlogin.shtml:
                                                Code:
                                                onUnLoad="location.replace(document.referrer)
                                                So the whole body tag will look something like:
                                                Code:
                                                <BODY LINK="#FF0000" VLINK="#FF0000" bgcolor="#ffffff"  text="#000000" onUnLoad="location.replace(document.referrer)">
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