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  • The Porn Nerd
    Living The Dream
    • Jun 2009
    • 19788
    #51
    I'm preparing for YOUR financial meltdown Choker - oh wait, "Choker Traffic since 2000".
    Nevermind.

    Get some cash and have it "on hand" is all I can advise. That, and lots of canned foods.
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      • vdbucks
        Monger Cash
        • Jul 2010
        • 2773
        #52
        Originally posted by Anthony
        And for the guy who had to put his 2 cents in about the heart being in the middle, the point of shooting in a group is to show skill. Which that close ass group showed well. .223 bounces like a motherfucker, and the hydrostatic shock alone would fuck your world up if not outright killing you. But these are all things people who shoot and train for SHTF scenarios know.
        Well, not to be a dick but that shot grouping is pretty bad for only 30 yards on iron sights. On a 300m target with iron sights, I'd say you'd miss a good 60% of the time.

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          • Choker
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2001
            • 9024
            #53
            Originally posted by MisterPeabody
            I'm preparing for YOUR financial meltdown Choker - oh wait, "Choker Traffic since 2000".
            Nevermind.

            Get some cash and have it "on hand" is all I can advise. That, and lots of canned foods.
            Well cash looses 3% of its value yearly according to that graph. While this thread is entertaining, it went a different direction. What are you guys putting your money in? Silver and gold in my opinion is too risky at this point in time.
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              • vdbucks
                Monger Cash
                • Jul 2010
                • 2773
                #54
                Originally posted by Choker
                Well cash looses 3% of its value yearly according to that graph. While this thread is entertaining, it went a different direction. What are you guys putting your money in? Silver and gold in my opinion is too risky at this point in time.
                IMHO.. if you're going to put money into anything for a shit hits the fan scenario, put it into consumables. Especially food.

                Doesn't matter how much gold you have if the shit does hit the fan. Those with the most means to survive (food, shelter, water), and good self protection are going to be the ones who survive. The guy with all the gold will be one of the first to go...

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                  • Emil
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 5658
                    #55
                    I'm selling of my stocks and bonds and put the money into gold and silver.
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                      • L-Pink
                        working on my tan
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 39151
                        #56
                        Originally posted by Anthony
                        If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

                        http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

                        No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.
                        WoW ...... what a read.


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                          • Vendzilla
                            Biker Gnome
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23200
                            #57
                            I think it's not how many guns, its the amount of ammo that's important
                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                            think about that

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                              • CYF
                                Coupon Guru
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 10973
                                #58
                                Originally posted by Anthony
                                If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

                                http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

                                No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.
                                great read.
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                                  • Paul Markham
                                    Too old to care
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 52942
                                    #59
                                    Preparing for the melt down. Great thread Choker. With what's happening around the world the future could be very hard. Money in anything that has an inflated or superficial value could be hit, you can't eat gold or silver. Silver is used a lot in manufacturing, as these markets get hit less value in silver.

                                    Look at the 1930s for inspiration in what to buy.


                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                    I think it's not how many guns, its the amount of ammo that's important
                                    Wrong.

                                    It's the ability and will to use them.

                                    A survey of WW2 soldiers who actually shot to kill discovered the % was very low, even when under attack. If all you middle class keyboard warriors thing you're more willing to kill someone than a pent up mob fueled by it's own momentum or someone whose so desperate to get something you have, then think again.

                                    Modern soldiers have to go through very intensive training to be taught to kill. giving them a gun, ammo and teaching them to aim and pull the trigger at a paper target is something anyone can do. Killing someone is something very different.

                                    Go back to playing soldiers on your computers.



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                                      • Anthony
                                        Keyboard Warrior
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 9653
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by vdbucks
                                        Well, not to be a dick but that shot grouping is pretty bad for only 30 yards on iron sights. On a 300m target with iron sights, I'd say you'd miss a good 60% of the time.
                                        You assume a lot. How do you know he's not zero'd out for 100yds max? Shooting someone at 300M is called Murder in the USA.

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                                          • vdbucks
                                            Monger Cash
                                            • Jul 2010
                                            • 2773
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by Anthony
                                            You assume a lot. How do you know he's not zero'd out for 100yds max? Shooting someone at 300M is called Murder in the USA.
                                            Well, you did mention shoot and train for 'shit hits the fan' scenarios... and training at 300m on iron sights is military standard* in the good 'ol US of A... so if you're not going to bother to train as good, or better, than the military... why bother training?

                                            *As far as qualification goes. There are 4 targets @ 300m.. 4 targets which are usually the determining factor between an expert marksman... and a sharpshooter. Sure, you could settle for 36 out of 40... but we are talking "shit hits the fan" scenario.. and I dunno about you but I'd want the best possible training in such a scenario.. regardless of how ridiculous the notion itself is.

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                                              • Paul&John
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2005
                                                • 8644
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by Anthony
                                                If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

                                                http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

                                                No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.
                                                Read it like 2 years ago, it's pretty good and pretty long
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                                                  • Anthony
                                                    Keyboard Warrior
                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                    • 9653
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by vdbucks
                                                    Well, you did mention shoot and train for 'shit hits the fan' scenarios... and training at 300m on iron sights is military standard* in the good 'ol US of A... so if you're not going to bother to train as good, or better, than the military... why bother training?

                                                    *As far as qualification goes. There are 4 targets @ 300m.. 4 targets which are usually the determining factor between an expert marksman... and a sharpshooter. Sure, you could settle for 36 out of 40... but we are talking "shit hits the fan" scenario.. and I dunno about you but I'd want the best possible training in such a scenario.. regardless of how ridiculous the notion itself is.
                                                    Like I said, you are assuming a lot. He's not in the military, and shooting 30yds. That is decent grouping for non military. I'd say he is doing a decent job, most ppl buy the long guns and never fire them at all. I'm pretty sure if he went with a decent ACOG, those groups would be tighter.

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                                                      • Anthony
                                                        Keyboard Warrior
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 9653
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by Paul&John
                                                        Read it like 2 years ago, it's pretty good and pretty long
                                                        Originally posted by CYF
                                                        great read.
                                                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                        WoW ...... what a read.


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                                                          • Anthony
                                                            Keyboard Warrior
                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 9653
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                            Preparing for the melt down. Great thread Choker. With what's happening around the world the future could be very hard. Money in anything that has an inflated or superficial value could be hit, you can't eat gold or silver. Silver is used a lot in manufacturing, as these markets get hit less value in silver.

                                                            Look at the 1930s for inspiration in what to buy.




                                                            Wrong.

                                                            It's the ability and will to use them.

                                                            A survey of WW2 soldiers who actually shot to kill discovered the % was very low, even when under attack. If all you middle class keyboard warriors thing you're more willing to kill someone than a pent up mob fueled by it's own momentum or someone whose so desperate to get something you have, then think again.

                                                            Modern soldiers have to go through very intensive training to be taught to kill. giving them a gun, ammo and teaching them to aim and pull the trigger at a paper target is something anyone can do. Killing someone is something very different.

                                                            Go back to playing soldiers on your computers.
                                                            When's the last time you've been in the military? We were given paper targets and told to shoot them. LOL

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                                                              • BradBangs
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                                                                • Jun 2011
                                                                • 119
                                                                #66
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                                                                  • ottopottomouse
                                                                    She is ugly, bad luck.
                                                                    • Jan 2010
                                                                    • 13177
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Can't eat gold.

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                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 52942
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                        When's the last time you've been in the military? We were given paper targets and told to shoot them. LOL
                                                                        A member of the family is in the military and very very trained to kill people. we talked about the training. The thought process has to be conditioned out of recruits so they don't think when killing people. It's part of the job.

                                                                        He said teaching him to hit a target 1000 meters away was easier than teaching him to kill someone 10 meters away.

                                                                        How long did the training take you and what level were you at?

                                                                        He's at the top level.



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                                                                          • Jack Sparrow
                                                                            Almost goners..
                                                                            • May 2008
                                                                            • 11420
                                                                            #69
                                                                            John titor was right. Follow his advice.

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                                                                              • Markul
                                                                                Likes Pie
                                                                                • Dec 2007
                                                                                • 12403
                                                                                #70
                                                                                I have a contingency plan with a fellow ex-solider, we have pointed out what bunker to take over, where to get our "equipement" and how to get our families to safety
                                                                                But.... I pulled out...

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                                                                                  • darksoul
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                                    • 4997
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                    If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

                                                                                    http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

                                                                                    No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.
                                                                                    Good read but a totally different scenario from what the doom sayers are expecting.
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                                                                                      • vdbucks
                                                                                        Monger Cash
                                                                                        • Jul 2010
                                                                                        • 2773
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                        Like I said, you are assuming a lot. He's not in the military, and shooting 30yds. That is decent grouping for non military. I'd say he is doing a decent job, most ppl buy the long guns and never fire them at all. I'm pretty sure if he went with a decent ACOG, those groups would be tighter.
                                                                                        I'm not assuming anything.. I'm just saying that people who are supposedly preparing for the king shit of hitting fan then they should train properly :P

                                                                                        And it's not like being in the military itself teaches you how to shoot... the same manual they use out on the ranges is readily available for download from the army's website... There's not much they actually teach you outside of that... since most DS/DI's have only ever had the same training they're giving you.

                                                                                        https://www.benning.army.mil/infantr...F/FM3-22-9.pdf

                                                                                        Anyway, the whole notion itself is ridiculous anyway.. there are about a handful of people who actually give a shit that the US is going down the shitter extremely fast. The rest are too occupied with the bullshit the media feeds them, american idol, facebook etc. Otherwise known as... sheeple ><

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                                                                                          • charlie g
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                                                            • 2759
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                            I'm getting a Mossberg 500 combat shotgun very soon.


                                                                                            This



                                                                                            and this ftw.



                                                                                            I alternate buck shot and slugs in the chamber and then have a speed loader filled with buckshot. I can fire about 20 rounds in 8 seconds.
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                                                                                              • vdbucks
                                                                                                Monger Cash
                                                                                                • Jul 2010
                                                                                                • 2773
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                This



                                                                                                and this ftw.



                                                                                                I alternate buck shot and slugs in the chamber and then have a speed loader filled with buckshot. I can fire about 20 rounds in 8 seconds.
                                                                                                Those would honestly serve a much more useful purpose than any rifle if the shit ever did hit the fan and it was all or nothing, live or die...

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                                                                                                  • PR_Glen
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                                                                    • 9058
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    you gun collecting warriors are forgetting a couple of problems your guns can not protect you from...

                                                                                                    One, you will need to sleep. You can stay up for a day or two and still be sharp enough to take someone out but after that your head and any common sense you have is gone. (believe me, i've been an insomniac for years...)

                                                                                                    Second, as someone mentioned earlier, if there is a mob of people coming at you? It doesn't matter what your packing.. they will advance eventually and they will get to you.


                                                                                                    A better solution is developing a strong sense of community.. friends, neighbours, relatives. Human survival has always done well in communities or groups. If it's just you and a few people in your house against everyone else you don't stand a chance...


                                                                                                    oh.. and this type of scenario will not play out in north america in our lifetimes, we should all feel lucky that we don't need to deal with such decisions.
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                                                                                                        • 18083
                                                                                                        #76
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                                                                                                          • Choopa Phil
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                                                                                                            • Apr 2009
                                                                                                            • 3965
                                                                                                            #77
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                                                                                                              • charlie g
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                • 2759
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Yup, a mob that comes to my door will get ripped to shreds in under 10 seconds. The recoil is really light on these. The one thing I salute the French did right.
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                                                                                                                  • seeandsee
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                                                                                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                    • 50945
                                                                                                                    #79
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                                                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                        • 68184
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                                        Yup, a mob that comes to my door will get ripped to shreds in under 10 seconds. The recoil is really light on these. The one thing I salute the French did right.
                                                                                                                        sounds like you are stocked up on kool-aid too! you = well-prepared.

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                                                                                                                          • bronco67
                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                            • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                            • 29032
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                                                            http://www.shoot-straight.com/p-408-m70ab2.aspx

                                                                                                                            Is this a good price?

                                                                                                                            and this

                                                                                                                            http://www.shoot-straight.com/p-881-...t-cruiser.aspx
                                                                                                                            I've never been crazy about stockless, pistol grip shotguns.

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                                                                                                                              • L-Pink
                                                                                                                                working on my tan
                                                                                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                • 39151
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by seeandsee
                                                                                                                                i am buying rope, so i can hang myself...


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                                                                                                                                  • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                    • 68184
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    i don't get the price difference on the mossbergs.........L-pink's are in the $1500 range but the others are ~$350 ish.

                                                                                                                                    i understand that competition shotguns are pricey, but that high end mossberg isn't competition, it's tactical.

                                                                                                                                    i've got a remington 870 tactical, i think i paid $400 for it many years ago. i've run quite a bit of ammo through, rock fuking solid.

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                                                                                                                                      • Pipecrew
                                                                                                                                        Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 14888
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by vdbucks
                                                                                                                                        Well, not to be a dick but that shot grouping is pretty bad for only 30 yards on iron sights. On a 300m target with iron sights, I'd say you'd miss a good 60% of the time.
                                                                                                                                        everyones a professional behind the keyboard. Do you own any guns at all?

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                                                                                                                                          • charlie g
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                            • 2759
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                            sounds like you are stocked up on kool-aid too! you = well-prepared.


                                                                                                                                            WTF happened to you? You used to post cool informative shit. Now you are just one of the caustic fucking embeciles that routinely post here.

                                                                                                                                            You also posted you own weapons too.. what's up with that Holmes???? You got a case of shotgun envy?

                                                                                                                                            You know starving yourself, smoking weed and shotguns in the house is dangerous. Lay the pipe down, head to Carl's Junior and chill the fuck out.

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                                                                                                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                • 68184
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                                                                WTF happened to you? You used to post cool informative shit. Now you are just one of the caustic fucking embeciles that routinely post here.

                                                                                                                                                You also posted you own weapons too.. what's up with that Holmes???? You got a case of shotgun envy?

                                                                                                                                                You know starving yourself, smoking weed and shotguns in the house is dangerous. Lay the pipe down, head to Carl's Junior and chill the fuck out.

                                                                                                                                                Message brought to you by Curt Cobain
                                                                                                                                                i hope they have a cool off delay on gun purchases in your area.

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                                                                                                                                                  • Failed
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2011
                                                                                                                                                    • 2301
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                                                    If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

                                                                                                                                                    http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

                                                                                                                                                    No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.
                                                                                                                                                    A very interesting read! I got down to where he speaks of body armor, but got called away. Can't wait to finish. Thanks for the link, even if you don't want it, lol.
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                                                                                                                                                      • Agent 488
                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                        • 22511
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        i things go to hell people will come together, not apart, as proven by history thousands of times.

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                                                                                                                                                          • charlie g
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                            • 2759
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                            i hope they have a cool off delay on gun purchases in your area.
                                                                                                                                                            They do... and I have owned my spas for 10+ years without killing anyone.

                                                                                                                                                            Hope they have drug testing for gun purchases in your area
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                                                                                                                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                                                                                WTF happened to you? You used to post cool informative shit. Now you are just one of the caustic fucking embeciles that routinely post here.

                                                                                                                                                                You also posted you own weapons too.. what's up with that Holmes???? You got a case of shotgun envy?

                                                                                                                                                                You know starving yourself, smoking weed and shotguns in the house is dangerous. Lay the pipe down, head to Carl's Junior and chill the fuck out.

                                                                                                                                                                Message brought to you by Curt Cobain
                                                                                                                                                                i'm going to take the time to reply to this seriously.

                                                                                                                                                                i could not care less if you lump me into the *caustic fucking embeciles* group at gfy. fact is, your comment earlier
                                                                                                                                                                Yup, a mob that comes to my door will get ripped to shreds in under 10 seconds. The recoil is really light on these. The one thing I salute the French did right.
                                                                                                                                                                shows you to be ill-prepared and in the scenario you envision, you will be ripped apart, limb by limb.

                                                                                                                                                                re: my own weapons. yes, i've had a cache of weapons in the past, and i was a card-carrying member of the nra with membership at several gun clubs, etc. and i even used to give ar-15 assault rifles out to my employees as gifts and such. i had to get rid of my ar-15 when i moved to california. soon after, i ended up gifting all of my firearms, except shottie mcboomerson, to my dad after coming to the conclusion that i am not a gun guy.

                                                                                                                                                                as for shotgun envy, i think my post earlier inquiring about the mossbergs shows that i am not feeling envy.

                                                                                                                                                                you can try and portray my lifestyle as you did above, but that rly says a lot more about you than me.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • JamesGw
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2011
                                                                                                                                                                    • 1237
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                                                                                                                                                                      • charlie g
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                        • 2759
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                        i'm going to take the time to reply to this seriously.

                                                                                                                                                                        i could not care less if you lump me into the *caustic fucking embeciles* group at gfy. fact is, your comment earlier


                                                                                                                                                                        shows you to be ill-prepared and in the scenario you envision, you will be ripped apart, limb by limb.

                                                                                                                                                                        re: my own weapons. yes, i've had a cache of weapons in the past, and i was a card-carrying member of the nra with membership at several gun clubs, etc. and i even used to give ar-15 assault rifles out to my employees as gifts and such. i had to get rid of my ar-15 when i moved to california. soon after, i ended up gifting all of my firearms, except shottie mcboomerson, to my dad after coming to the conclusion that i am not a gun guy.

                                                                                                                                                                        as for shotgun envy, i think my post earlier inquiring about the mossbergs shows that i am not feeling envy.

                                                                                                                                                                        you can try and portray my lifestyle as you did above, but that rly says a lot more about you than me.
                                                                                                                                                                        First, I own 2 Mossbergs and the spas-12 is a far superior weapon. In fact, for the scenario I envisioned it is the perfect weapon above all other legal US options.

                                                                                                                                                                        Second, you have routinely boasted about your use of herb. This is not something I made up. So you can question my temperament from a forum post, but your drug use is not to be questioned?

                                                                                                                                                                        OK... you win. You are a weapons expert and the mossberg is the ultimate. Take another toke and forget this conversation ever happened.
                                                                                                                                                                        AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com
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                                                                                                                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                            • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                                                                                            OK... you win.
                                                                                                                                                                            good, now fuck off.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • charlie g
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                • 2759
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                good, now fuck off.
                                                                                                                                                                                That's better!
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    for those who cannot read between the lines of my posts, i am trying to provoke your thought processes.

                                                                                                                                                                                    here, i will spell it out for you instead:

                                                                                                                                                                                    the one thing most all survivalists have in common is the inability to accurately assess their plan and modify it going forward.

                                                                                                                                                                                    they also discuss their plan, sharing information on what is stored and how it is *defended*

                                                                                                                                                                                    if you are thinking it's a guns a blazin shoot em up, you really need to have a fully thought out >1000 yard defensive plan to cover your stockpile.

                                                                                                                                                                                    and most MOST importantly, a team approach consisting of as many neighbors as possible offers the biggest chance of survival.

                                                                                                                                                                                    /caustic fucking embecile

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • DWB
                                                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 31779
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by PXN
                                                                                                                                                                                        What's goes up must comes down. Gold going down sooner or later.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Of course it will come down. Then it will go back up. And probably down again. And back up. But the trend will be UP. Why? Because currency (especially the USD and Euro) is uncertain. And if the merry-go-round stops and you're holding nothing but paper, you lose.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Can it happen? Sure.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Will it happen? No one knows, but I'd hate to be left holding nothing but my dick if it did.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Nothing wrong with preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. And that really applies to food storage or any other aspect of survival preparation.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • DWB
                                                                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 31779
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                            for those who cannot read between the lines of my posts, i am trying to provoke your thought processes.

                                                                                                                                                                                            here, i will spell it out for you instead:

                                                                                                                                                                                            the one thing most all survivalists have in common is the inability to accurately assess their plan and modify it going forward.

                                                                                                                                                                                            they also discuss their plan, sharing information on what is stored and how it is *defended*

                                                                                                                                                                                            if you are thinking it's a guns a blazin shoot em up, you really need to have a fully thought out >1000 yard defensive plan to cover your stockpile.

                                                                                                                                                                                            and most MOST importantly, a team approach consisting of as many neighbors as possible offers the biggest chance of survival.

                                                                                                                                                                                            /caustic fucking embecile
                                                                                                                                                                                            A financial meltdown does not have to mean a zombie attack on your home.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • JFK
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 67373
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                100. meltdowns
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham


                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wrong.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    It's the ability and will to use them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    A survey of WW2 soldiers who actually shot to kill discovered the % was very low, even when under attack. If all you middle class keyboard warriors thing you're more willing to kill someone than a pent up mob fueled by it's own momentum or someone whose so desperate to get something you have, then think again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Modern soldiers have to go through very intensive training to be taught to kill. giving them a gun, ammo and teaching them to aim and pull the trigger at a paper target is something anyone can do. Killing someone is something very different.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Go back to playing soldiers on your computers.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hey Paul,
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I was in the military, I was trained to use the 1911a and the M14. I have a ribbon for both, The statement I made was in the response to state governments wanting to limit availbility of ammo to try and control our second amendment rights, so stay in your country if that bothers you.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    First time I every went hunting I was 14, I know I wouldn't have a problem pulling the trigger.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                                                    think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • mountainmiester
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 509
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Several ammo boxes full of 9MM, .44 Mag, .308, 30/30, and shot gun shells. After that a compound bow, 6 months of dry pack food, tents, sleeping bags, water filters, cook stoves, gallons of white gas, fishing gear, first aid supplies, etc. everything i would need to live anywhere i need for at least 6 months.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Things go down, I load up the car and camping trailer and off we go, self sustained and off the grid.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have several friends who are prepared the same and we have a meeting point and destination plan. For me, all the savings in the world aint gonna help you when the currency systems collapse and the only things people are going to want to buy with gold, I will already have.
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