Should MikeHawk and DrinkingHardest be banned?

who are you again?

Nobody.

Gary

Poll or no poll, it won't happen.


But something's got to give, because as it stands it's far too easy for someone to just start trashing a company or someone's reputation first and leave the fact-gathering until later.

I said no, because even if they post shit without proof, they're getting exposed... I have no problem with self-ownage.

And it's entertaining!

you know both of them will be sending this thread to everyone on their icq, asking them to vote

This place would be boring without a DrinkingHard meltdown every few months.

We know Mark wont get banned then again his post already did and does so much damage. He gets what he deserves anyway.

This is reference to these two threads.

Drinking Hardest - http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=753166

MikeHawk - http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=752299

Gary

this thread should be banned..

Whatever happened to the mods jumping into a thread and saying "Post Proof" and banning them if they didn't... Fucking place has gone to shit from the standpoint of keeping this crap under control.. TexasDreams pissed me off with some of his stupid bans, but at least he kept this sort of shit more under control.

That only takes place for non-bros.

Does anyone really give a shit about what's posted here besides entertainment value.

Take notes and decide who to do business with or not. I could give a flying fuck what any of the bromasters post here. They have zero effect on my income.

Amen....

What gets me about the whole deal is these guys have been in the business for a while and should know better than come to the boards to discredit people without proof to smear peoples reputation. The key here is without solid PROOF to substantiate their claims and get by with it. If it was me I would be banned in a heart beat because I don't have a high post count. I just your typical webmaster trying to make a dollar and I for one take threads into account on whether to do business with someone or not. I'm not big time but hey I got a roof over my head.

Gary

If Mike Hawk gets banned here, many others wont probably post here anymore including myself....Mike Hawk is a true stand up person and respected in this industry.....and liked...good people have lots of influence and back up ....dont forget that buddy....

Brooooooooossssssssssssssssss unite!!!!!!

Don't let the door slap your ass on the way out......bye!

Courtney Love says:

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"tastemakers" ius what theyre called. lemmings? naw well anyway we were slobs ijn NY it ddint help that yal;l bootleg so fucking much and i cant sing if theres 20 emo kids screming every ,yric to every bnew song so if you were there and you saw me take a few steps back it was cos i wanted my space and noooooooo you were not whoever you are taking mty doodads off my gifted new Marc flamenco en pointe patent shoes- yall leave my doodads alone, NY is swierd to this day people tell mne that the Bowery nightmare was one of thie rfavourite shows ever= i could nopt sing at all, i was probably going to be dead within 24 hours- i had been arrested for NOTHING the night previous ( there were no mike stands at the club i was accused of hurling a nioght stanbd at so the charge wzA sphsycially and totally impossible it was cos those cops had seen me do my coochie dance for letterman and just wanted to nail my ass- a true witch trial frnezy if i ever saw or have been in one or 9- but hey i took it on the chin and noone4 as is aid in the other days blog willkarmically or within thge justice system get away with what they did to me) a personc Ame backstage who iw ant3d to punch- hard= lots an dlots of tim es- coming up to me telling me he was SGI now-= well bitch then chant to pay me back allyou stole and chant to tell the FBI all you diod to facilitate a conspiracy and then get back to me-= sgi great opj n ya- oit doesnt expiate what you diod to me- or the fact that my friends couldnt get bvackstage but somewhere ibn my karma this bitch got backstage and just sat there looking like id be nice to him because hes a buddhist now-= i think 12 step mifght be a good first pl;ace for him before he starts claiminfg hes a votary of the Lotus DSutra cos ive not recieve3d any amends letter- but i let it go= and di my job and refused to take one solo picture cfor Rolling stione or anyone else- this story is about 6 people livinfg under one roof working 12 hours a day this opart if the story and we werre shambolic as fuck onstage patro played one song ina d tuning- wich is maybe one of the worst things you can do, Nirvana used to thier whol;e set in d tuning - d tubning is greta fo r low sabbathy so

Whats funny is you nit wits think ya make a difference slamming on guys that make mistakes once in a while, and even if they are not mistakes it does not make one fucking difference. Even when they screw up it makes zero fucking difference.

At the end of the day biz is biz, boards are boards.
Once you kids realise that perhaps you may actually work to be a shot caller to...

Because once you are it does not fucking matter what is said or what people think or what the fuck you do...

Fact is you kick ass whether people like it or not...

It must really irritate newbs at the bottom of the pool...

He buys content from you and "knows people" so he's always in the right? People appreciate others who tell them the truth, instead of patting them on the back when they fuck up. It shows character and prevents things like this from occurring again.


You might try it sometime

Amen.

Only fools think your GFY profile is important when it comes to selling to a surfer.

lol didnt you do gay porn or a photoshoot bc you were so broke a few years back?

No, not because he buys content from us and knows people....its because he is honest, straight forward and sincere....i dont know if its true or not about the wallet case but honesty is the best policy and even honest people can make mistakes ( IF there is an actual mistake ) and that not a good reason to ban someone with that kind of credit and reputation in the industry.

Has he apologised, made retribution for the damage he has done or even posted that he was wrong yet?

A stand up guy would.

He ran to GFY like a 5 year old with what now seems to be an unfounded revelation, and on something that did involve him directly to begin with. This kind of drama is what makes GFY go round, but i'm sure you can see this situation is fucked up and completely brought on by Mike's initial thread. I'm not saying he should be banned or not, that's a call for GFY to make. Plenty of people have been banned for much less.


It's best to let the parties that fucked up take it like a man, regardless of what 'status' they have in the industry. When someone fucks up and drags an innocent party through the mud to intentionally damage their reputation, it should be written in the sky and all should be done to make it right. Mike intentionally set out to make Lisa pay, and specifically for her to not win that contest for $5000. That's already been stated.


Surely there's been icq's and phone calls back and forth between Mike, Lisa and Ycaza to resolve this. Ycaza and Mike are taking a well-deserved public beating and most likely want it to stop.

Word of advice.. When your "friend" fucks up and shows himself to NOT be honest, stand up or respectable, it's best to shut your mouth otherwise it reflects on you and your business.

What both these people should of done is gone to the police and made a complaint there. Even pornographers are protected from crimes and having your wallet stolen and getting fraudulent credit card transaction makes you a victim of a crime.

What they chose to do was tell it all on GFY.

It now appears they both were wrong, both have done a lot of damage to people who is looks like were innocent. I want to know what they have done in terms of putting right the damage they caused.

In the real world they could both be in trouble for libel and facing up to what they did.

what does it matter?

you think that if a poster is "somebody" he can get away with any bullshit he likes, but all "noob" people should get banned without question?

It's 12 clunks, of course he does.

He's a person creating a thread.

You guys are just mad you read 10+ pages of drama and now want it to COUNT for something.. lol

I stopped at like post 5 and feel great about it.

It actually gets even better after page 5

Shit happends, besides I do not know about the other guy but Mike is a good guy, has always been friendly and has damn good cigars. End of story

You gotta be kidding.

His friend got screwed and he decided to speak about it. I would of done the same. It was a mistake, doesn't make him a bad guy.

It's pretty cool that you can see where people stand by viewing the poll results.

"Decided to speak about it" is most definitely and understatement. Did you read the thread and the accusations for yourself?

Do you still work with Splitinfinity?

If you feel that way why did you vote they shouldn't be banned?

How are the magic join links going?

I was wondering the same thing

if they're smart they will ask everyone to vote YES - bann me. if they get banned they'll both get more work done and make more money

Both these guys have been around a long time and should know better than start something that would ultimately ruin someone without Proof. Take a look at Mike's thread it's obvious what he's intentions were and same with DH. To me both threads had intent to do damage.

Gary

Funny to see it's all about drinks and cigars,,,,,

So basically the ones saying no are condoning the practice of smearing someone reputation without proof to substantiate their claims?

Gary

No, see my earlier post...

So basically you love the drama. Gotcha.

Gary

I dont agree with banning people except when those are anonymous attacking others.

Hmm.. let's see... He races to the board, throws up a thread that has his initial post placing every gal in the Booble contest in question...
Makes it obvious that his intentions are to ruin someone's chance at winning the contest by ruining her reputation.. flat out says that the person, 'soon to be revealed' stole a wallet.. Creates a big 'who dunnit' guessing game. .. Knowing that when the name was revealed, she'd be tried, convicted & hung on the spot..
And all without even considering that there may be more to it than what he blurted out... But then, that would have screwed up his big master plan..
Which turns out that there was more to it and he blew it big time..

Yes indeed... a true stand up person.. deserving much respect..

And as for the, "Good people have influence and back up... Don't forget that buddy" .. Good people don't try to ruin other people.

and the rest of that little, "influence and backup... I really doubt that has too many people shaking in their boots....

A great judge of character you are...