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  • will76
    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
    • May 2003
    • 18037

    #851
    Originally posted by SleazyDream
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    I'm met Ycaza many times and honestly - I beleive him. He is NOT a dramma guy at all.

    for those that know him - and MOST LARGE PLAYERS IN ONLINE ADULT DO - him posting this is pretty much solid proof Lisa did it.
    Match - set - point.

    case over.


    The Bro powers have spoken.

    Sleazy knows Ycaza so he believes him. There is no way Ycaza could be wrong here because THE LARGE PLAYERS IN ONLINE ADULT know him too.

    done deal. everyone can go home.





































    why are you still reading this. you need more proof from Sleazy???/




    Originally posted by SleazyDream
    regarless. here's something that is TRUE.

    if you ask ALL the people who make $10 million Plus a year in this biz - EVERYONE and I mean EVERY ONE OF THEM, they ALL will know Kcaza is and be about to pic out a picture of him.
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    • EdgeXXX
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      • Oct 2005
      • 5816

      #852
      Originally posted by Tempest
      Ycasa was supposed to have seen the hotel video on Thurs.. He hasn't said word 1 about it around here. In fact if he does say he was wrong, I'd think he'd be ripe to be fucked in court.. better to say nothing and hope it goes away.
      Originally posted by Gnus
      Again this is not a coincidence. Plain and simple this was a lame attempt to smear someone's rep and Lisa should just stop posting in this thread all together and sue MikeHawk and Ycaza.

      Gary
      Honestly, there are no legal grounds to bring a lawsuit against Ycaza. He never openly accused Lisa (in public) of anything. Remember that, technically, the identity of the person was still up for speculation when Lisa came forward and identified herself as the person in question.
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      • Juicy D. Links
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 122992

        #853
        Who wants my opinion on this?

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        • EdgeXXX
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          • Oct 2005
          • 5816

          #854
          Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
          Who wants my opinion on this?
          That guy over there --------------------------------->
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          • Juicy D. Links
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 122992

            #855
            Originally posted by EdgeXXX
            That guy over there --------------------------------->

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            • commonsense
              So Fucking Banned
              • Feb 2007
              • 1790

              #856
              Originally posted by will76
              Match - set - point.

              case over.


              The Bro powers have spoken.

              Sleazy knows Ycaza so he believes him. There is no way Ycaza could be wrong here because THE LARGE PLAYERS IN ONLINE ADULT know him too.

              done deal. everyone can go home.





































              why are you still reading this. you need more proof from Sleazy???/

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              • lisa sparks
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 358

                #857
                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                regarless. here's something that is TRUE.

                - some surfers might know lisa - but honestly - if you ask ALL the people who make $10 million Plus a year in this biz - EVERYONE and I mean EVERY ONE OF THEM, they ALL will know Kcaza is and be about to pic out a picture of him. Most might have HEARD of lisa but won't have a clue who she is....
                So I am a thief because, I am a model? I been in the business for six years. Just because we have never talked I am wrong here? I have been to about a dozen conventions though out the years. Thank god I been to those or I would really be in trouble.

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                • TampaToker
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2006
                  • 5828

                  #858
                  Originally posted by lisa sparxxx
                  So I am a thief because, I am a model? I been in the business for six years. Just because we have never talked I am wrong here? I have been to about a dozen conventions though out the years. Thank god I been to those or I would really be in trouble.
                  Lisa some people just dont get things or just ass kissers on here dont sweat it. Its funny when these type of threads arise you see the other side of people. Its your typical high school click type of shit.
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                  • Brujah
                    Beer Money Baron
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 22157

                    #859
                    Originally posted by lisa sparxxx
                    So I am a thief because, I am a model? I been in the business for six years. Just because we have never talked I am wrong here? I have been to about a dozen conventions though out the years. Thank god I been to those or I would really be in trouble.
                    Sleazy's just here giving your lawyer more proof that your reputation is being severely damaged by the accusations. You should thank him.

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                    • Scootermuze
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 4513

                      #860
                      YO.. CAZ....
                      When are you gonna return to say that it does appear to have been a hotel error??

                      After all... according to Sleazy, you are one of the most respected men on Earth because you have lots of money and attend lots of conventions...
                      so I would think that one with that kind of respect would be man enough to at least set the record straight where all of this could be laid to rest..

                      Just a thought...

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                      • Phoenix
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                        • Nov 2002
                        • 35475

                        #861
                        Originally posted by EdgeXXX
                        Honestly, there are no legal grounds to bring a lawsuit against Ycaza. He never openly accused Lisa (in public) of anything. Remember that, technically, the identity of the person was still up for speculation when Lisa came forward and identified herself as the person in question.
                        actually a list of people it could have been was given by some people

                        and even that the first name started with an L?


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                        • OzMan
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                          • Sep 2003
                          • 9162

                          #862
                          Originally posted by Scootermuze
                          YO.. CAZ....
                          When are you gonna return to say that it does appear to have been a hotel error??

                          After all... according to Sleazy, you are one of the most respected men on Earth because you have lots of money and attend lots of conventions...
                          so I would think that one with that kind of respect would be man enough to at least set the record straight where all of this could be laid to rest..

                          Just a thought...
                          Cut him a break, what if when he came back to Vegas on Thursday to look at the tape, somebody stole his wallet again and he has no way of getting home.
                          Didn't think of that did you.

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                          • TampaToker
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2006
                            • 5828

                            #863
                            Originally posted by OzMan
                            Cut him a break, what if when he came back to Vegas on Thursday to look at the tape, somebody stole his wallet again and he has no way of getting home.
                            Didn't think of that did you.
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                            • Scootermuze
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                              • Dec 2001
                              • 4513

                              #864
                              Originally posted by lisa sparxxx
                              So I am a thief because, I am a model? I been in the business for six years. Just because we have never talked I am wrong here? I have been to about a dozen conventions though out the years. Thank god I been to those or I would really be in trouble.
                              Now wait a minute!! This all should have been exposed earlier as it sheds a whole new light on things..

                              Sleazy has pointed out some very damaging evidence that really can't be disputed..

                              I'm sorry, Lisa, but this pretty much does seal your fate. How could I have been such a fool to believe you only to find this out?

                              Only a dozen conventions????? My God Woman why didn't you say so earlier!?!?!?

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                              • smashface
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                                • Sep 2002
                                • 991

                                #865
                                Originally posted by OzMan
                                Cut him a break, what if when he came back to Vegas on Thursday to look at the tape, somebody stole his wallet again and he has no way of getting home.
                                Didn't think of that did you.
                                That is a sadistic way of looking at things

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                                • Juicy D. Links
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                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 122992

                                  #866
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                                  • crockett
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                                    • May 2003
                                    • 76818

                                    #867
                                    So did he ever go back to Vegas to see the videos?
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                                    • lisa sparks
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                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 358

                                      #868
                                      Originally posted by TampaToker
                                      Lisa some people just dont get things or just ass kissers on here dont sweat it. Its funny when these type of threads arise you see the other side of people. Its your typical high school click type of shit.
                                      But, but I was in the click in High School

                                      I know where you are coming from. I am keeping my head up. I have nothing to hide.

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                                      • Scootermuze
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 4513

                                        #869
                                        Originally posted by OzMan
                                        Cut him a break, what if when he came back to Vegas on Thursday to look at the tape, somebody stole his wallet again and he has no way of getting home.
                                        Didn't think of that did you.
                                        Hmm.. now that I think about it.. especially after just learning that she has only attended 12 conventions.. she may have followed him out there, picked his pocket again, took his new card (old one canceled 3 days prior to the incident) where he couldn't return home with all of the incriminating evidence..

                                        Damn she's good!

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                                        • Captain Cunnilingus
                                          Registered User
                                          • Jul 2007
                                          • 5

                                          #870
                                          Originally posted by OzMan
                                          yes she is single handedly keeping this thread on the front page as part of her devious plan to cover her tracks
                                          it's called "hiding in plain sight"

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                                          • CDSmith
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • May 2001
                                            • 51460

                                            #871
                                            Something is definitely wrong with the mindset some have in this business. Mike Hawk started this, tried to affect Lisa's success in the booble contest, and in fact attempted to torpedo her chances by prematurely using unproven and unfounded accusations publicly.

                                            The usual way people handle a situation like this is to call the cops and have them investigate what happened. and once all the facts are in they either settle up and move on or THEN they report their findings publicly.

                                            Not here though, not in our lovely quaint little "community". At the first sign of percieved drama it's "run to the boards" time and "All bets are off, trash first and ask questions later. Let's out the bitch now while the iron is hot, HELL let's play a guessing game for a few hours first and cast a shadow of doubt on the character of all twelve girls in the contest, think of the pageviews!"

                                            Pathetic, transparent and shameful.

                                            Ycaza comes off as more reasonable and level-headed than Mike does in this thread, granted, but as it stands BOTH of them really need to man up and get back here and deal with this mess. They should either make it right publicly with Lisa, set the record straight once and for all and then talk about who REALLY did it... OR share the final proof that shows without a doubt she was the one.

                                            That's pretty much what professional mature people would do. "He's a bro and the $10 mill a year club smiles on him" doesn't mean shit to me if all he's doing is trashing the wrong individual.


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                                            • Peaches
                                              Old broad
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 13933

                                              #872
                                              Lisa has handled this a LOT better than I would have, I'll give that to her.

                                              I will again say IMO, this is NOTHING BUT A CLERK ISSUE!!!

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                                              • RP Fade
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                                                • Sep 2003
                                                • 3343

                                                #873
                                                wow..this is still going. I'll have to get the cliffnotes somewhere, wtf has time to read 18 pages of threads
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                                                • 421Fill
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                  • 20659

                                                  #874
                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream

                                                  but honestly - unless she can PROVE now that she or someone in her party didn't do this, no one in online adult is really going to trust her again.

                                                  would you? I wouldn't.

                                                  I HOPE she can prove otherwise. I pray she can. But honeslty, her reputation and fate rests in the hands of ycasa now posting an apology. saving that - she's labled GUILTY.
                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream

                                                  for those that know him - and MOST LARGE PLAYERS IN ONLINE ADULT DO - him posting this is pretty much solid proof Lisa did it.

                                                  unless I hear more I'm under the impression Lisa is a theif.


                                                  continuing to read past page 5 now.... soo many fucking pages here....
                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                  wow cliff notes please.

                                                  did lisa steal the wallet?
                                                  did someone else steal the wallet?
                                                  Was the wallet theif found?

                                                  no way am i reading 17 pages of trolls to find out. if lisa DIDN't do it, jesus this is a HUGE tarnish on her as most won't get past page 2 like me and by page two I'm left with the impression she did do it.
                                                  good fucking god, you truly are a fucking moron... oh wait 'idiot'

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                                                  • lisa sparks
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 358

                                                    #875
                                                    Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                    Hmm.. now that I think about it.. especially after just learning that she has only attended 12 conventions..
                                                    Ok the 12 webmaster conventions was a guess. However I have been to quite a few over the years.

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                                                    • Captain Cunnilingus
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Jul 2007
                                                      • 5

                                                      #876
                                                      Originally posted by Peaches
                                                      Lisa has handled this a LOT better than I would have, I'll give that to her.

                                                      I will again say IMO, this is NOTHING BUT A CLERK ISSUE!!!
                                                      as to the rooom issue, the stolen wallet is another thing entirely

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                                                      • Peaches
                                                        Old broad
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 13933

                                                        #877
                                                        Originally posted by Captain Cunnilingus
                                                        as to the rooom issue, the stolen wallet is another thing entirely
                                                        Was it definitely said it was stolen? I thought he didn't know if he lost it or not. I still haven't even seen any proof that whomever had the wallet made the "payment" on Lisa's account - again that could easily be a clerical issue.

                                                        This thread should NEVER have been started until ALL the facts were in - period.

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                                                        • Scootermuze
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 4513

                                                          #878
                                                          Originally posted by RP Fade
                                                          wow..this is still going. I'll have to get the cliffnotes somewhere, wtf has time to read 18 pages of threads
                                                          It needs to keep going on til Caz presents his findings..

                                                          Either undisputable proof of guilt, or an admission that it was a hotel error..

                                                          The thread doesn't need to just vanish as so many do.. It needs official closure.

                                                          Call me stubborn, but this isn't just a typical gfy thread. It was started with an agenda, with no concern for what long term effects it could have.. followed by the typical cattle mentality, then just left hanging for all to feast over..
                                                          Hmm.. maybe that much of it is typical..

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                                                            #879


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                                                            • who
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                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 19593

                                                              #880
                                                              I already admitted that it was me who stole the car.

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                                                              • ThePornBrain
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                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                • 147

                                                                #881
                                                                anyone seen Mike Hawk recently?

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                                                                • CDSmith
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                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                  • 51460

                                                                  #882
                                                                  Originally posted by ThePornBrain
                                                                  anyone seen Mike Hawk recently?
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                                                                  • Scootermuze
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                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                    • 4513

                                                                    #883
                                                                    Originally posted by ThePornBrain
                                                                    anyone seen Mike Hawk recently?
                                                                    I would like to think that he realized he messed up big time, but in that he hasn't stated so, probably not the case...

                                                                    Soo.. someone may have told him to chill and let the threat just vanish..

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                                                                    • candyflip
                                                                      Carpe Visio
                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 43072

                                                                      #884
                                                                      Originally posted by CDSmith
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                                                                      • Dirty F
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 59204

                                                                        #885
                                                                        I didnt read a word in this thread yet. Please someone sum it up for me. Thanks.

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                                                                        • Scootermuze
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 4513

                                                                          #886
                                                                          Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                                          I didnt read a word in this thread yet. Please someone sum it up for me. Thanks.
                                                                          MikeHawk apparently thought he needed to employ the smear method in order for his choice of Booble contestants to win...

                                                                          Pretty much it in a nutshell...

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                                                                          • Dirty F
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 59204

                                                                            #887
                                                                            Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                            MikeHawk apparently thought he needed to employ the smear method in order for his choice of Booble contestants to win...

                                                                            Pretty much it in a nutshell...
                                                                            So the thread title is false?

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                                                                            • Gnus
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                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                              • 577

                                                                              #888
                                                                              Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                                              So the thread title is false?
                                                                              Yep.

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                                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                • 59204

                                                                                #889
                                                                                He admitted it and said sorry or just like Mark he dissapeared without a word?

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                                                                                • Gnus
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                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                  • 577

                                                                                  #890
                                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                                                  He admitted it and said sorry or just like Mark he dissapeared without a word?
                                                                                  Disappeared without a word.

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                                                                                  • RAM
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                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 7047

                                                                                    #891
                                                                                    whats the chance of this hitting 1000 posts ????????????
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                                                                                    • OG LennyT
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                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 14345

                                                                                      #892
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                                                                                      • commonsense
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Feb 2007
                                                                                        • 1790

                                                                                        #893
                                                                                        Originally posted by RAM
                                                                                        whats the chance of this hitting 1000 posts ????????????
                                                                                        100% if another "mini drama" breaks out, or Ycaza or MikeHawk come back in to post.

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                                                                                        • RAM
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                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 7047

                                                                                          #894
                                                                                          Originally posted by commonsense
                                                                                          100% if another "mini drama" breaks out, or Ycaza or MikeHawk come back in to post.
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                                                                                          • will76
                                                                                            Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                                            • 18037

                                                                                            #895
                                                                                            Originally posted by EdgeXXX
                                                                                            Honestly, there are no legal grounds to bring a lawsuit against Ycaza. He never openly accused Lisa (in public) of anything. Remember that, technically, the identity of the person was still up for speculation when Lisa came forward and identified herself as the person in question.
                                                                                            Ok so pointing the finger at the person is not the same as just saying their name?????

                                                                                            Mike started it off with 12 possible candidates. Some of those girls were not even in Vegas, the field was narrowed down. As mike played the guessing game with everyone he gave clues like " she is on his myspace page" which narrowed down to one. Ycaza also admitted to running his mouth to several people at the show, lisa seeing that Mike was pointing to her in this thread she replied to defend herself.

                                                                                            She didn't "out" herself, if you want to get technical Mike "pointed" her out, same difference as saying her name. Which would have been more grown up then playing the " guessing game".
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                                                                                            • will76
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                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 18037

                                                                                              #896
                                                                                              Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                                              YO.. CAZ....
                                                                                              When are you gonna return to say that it does appear to have been a hotel error??

                                                                                              .)
                                                                                              maybe he is still in Vegas because he lost his wallet again, with his ticket home in it and he is waiting for someone to wire him money so he can get back ????
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                                                                                              • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                                • 38323

                                                                                                #897
                                                                                                This Thread is BRO-tarded!!!

                                                                                                Originally posted by Ycaza
                                                                                                hey you guys are all specualating. and when i go to vegas in the next few days we will see why this happened.

                                                                                                It's been nearly three full days since you made your last post. You indicated you were going to Vegas on Thursday to get answers and clear everything up.

                                                                                                It's now Saturday night...and no report back as of yet.

                                                                                                Your silence and that of the people that originally launched the attacks directed at Lisa is deplorable. It's time to put yourselves in her place.

                                                                                                Either lay out your proof or apologize already. Your credibility and the credibility of your bro's is on the line.

                                                                                                To remain silent is (to coin a new word), bro-tarded...

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                                                                                                • Far-L
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                  • 6065

                                                                                                  #898
                                                                                                  Just going to say that anyone that has worked with Lisa or knows her as a friend would KNOW FOR A FACT that she did not steal the wallet. From what I know of her and the word that comes from industry peers she is the kind of person that would turn one in with the cash, imo. She has handled herself very professionally in this crazy biz from day 1 and has earned a great rep for years of being a stand up business person. Never heard one bad thing about her until this which it seems apparent is an unfortunate situation but based on suspicion and not fact. I guess because she has avoided typical model drama for all these years meant that she had to pay some dues to the god's of porn, or the bro club or whatever.

                                                                                                  This is an unfortunate mix-up involving all good folks that I hope turns around for the positive for all concerned.
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                                                                                                  • Scootermuze
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                                    • 4513

                                                                                                    #899
                                                                                                    Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                                                    It's been nearly three full days since you made your last post. You indicated you were going to Vegas on...
                                                                                                    It should have been obvious what happened as soon as she showed him her bill..

                                                                                                    It clearly shows the same balance, but the credit toward the full balance reflects her card number.. with an amount due of 0.

                                                                                                    She didn't use his card to pay for her room... it was a foul-up at the hotel..

                                                                                                    Don't know why he wouldn't just see it was the hotel's fault and say so on here then instead of just letting it hang like he has...

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                                                                                                    • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                      #900
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                                                      Don't know why he wouldn't just see it was the hotel's fault and say so on here then instead of just letting it hang like he has...
                                                                                                      Ycaza seems like a good guy, and his company seems solid, so I am puzzled about this as well.

                                                                                                      I thought Stand-Up, Top Notch bro's, stood for more than buying drinks at shows...

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