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Originally Posted by Robbie
I wish you would sit down with me and tell show me how easy it is to make sales as an affiliate these days.
I was just going over things in my stats remote.
As an affiliate I made $400,000 MORE in 2008 than I am forecast to make in 2011. That shit hurts.
So I'd gladly have you come to Vegas. I don't live in a cottage, so you'll have to make due with sitting around my pool and explaining to me how easy it is to make sales.
I'll gladly even start a new company with you to make sales as an affiliate 
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He's full of shit, like so many here. The reason he can't sit down with me is he has nothing to tell me. No sig and probably wouldn't survive if it was like the real world. Probably only does survive sucking off the tit of sponsors who provide everything for him.
And that's the problem and has been from the very earliest days.
I suppose sponsors replaced the retail level of offline porn to a large extent. The difference was immense. Shop owners had to get a shop, get it ready for selling, stock it and then make sure people came through the door and actually bought the contents they had on sale. In some cases stock was on sale or return, but not the norm for a new shop.
So the limit of suppliers meant the amount of money they took was fantastic. This is where the big money was made in porn, not in the production. It was the retail that made the money.
Online porn guys knowing so much about online marketing, decided to go a different route. Being an affiliate was made so easy the lazy and leeches could do it. So much money was spent on this side, the actual product suffered, so the entry level for sites was very low. And the market was saturated. With lazy, leeches and low level guys who probably would have problems finding a job.
When you ran your TGP sites, imagine it being 1 of only 100 TGP sites, because the rev share was low and opening a TGP site was a lot tougher. Nothing but the bare minimum was given to you, galleries after 3 months disappeared, they had the minimum of porn on them. So surfers had a lot less free porn to consume and the need to buy was far higher. So instead of 1-"500" surfers converting 1-50 converted. (Numbers to show the principal)
We all know a good gallery with a good spot would burn BW to an extent that it was a major factor. So imagine less surfers and far more sales.
Would you of been good enough to survive in a tougher environment?
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Your reply is exactly what I mean but you just don't get it.
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Well I'll give you a clue and a challenge.
How many clicks from your site does it take to get a sale?
Let's run a test. I'll put up a sample clip of any mainstream sponsor you wish to choose. I'll sign up as an affiliate. We'll record the views of the post, views of the sample, clicks to the sponsor and conversions. You'll have ALL the takings on the joins. I just want to manage it so I can see the stats.
Maybe you could tell us how much of your traffic it takes to get a sale that way.
10, 100, 1,000, 5,000 ?????????????