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  • DVTimes
    xxx
    • Jun 2003
    • 31658

    #1

    weekly rebilling rather than monthly

    Rather than charge $20 (or so) per month, I wonder if people would have better results if it was $5 per week re-bill.

    $5 does not seem such as much and I wonder if people would join then stay much longer.

    Its a shame ccbill does not allow less than 30 days.

    I was thinking of charging $4 per 4 days.
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  • papill0n
    Unregistered Abuser
    • Oct 2007
    • 15547

    #2
    try sticking a cucumber up your arse and see if that helps

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    • DVTimes
      xxx
      • Jun 2003
      • 31658

      #3
      Originally posted by papill0n
      try sticking a cucumber up your arse and see if that helps
      ok

      i tried it

      but no result
      XXX

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      • seeandsee
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        • Mar 2006
        • 50945

        #4
        that would just increace job for someone by 4 times :D
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        • TubeKing
          Confirmed User
          • May 2011
          • 541

          #5
          yeah, people want to see a $5 charge on their credit card every week, that will go unnoticed well.

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          • Agent 488
            Registered User
            • Feb 2006
            • 22511

            #6
            my mind is still reeling from how mind blowing this idea is. once my hands stop shaking and vision returns to normal i'll respond properly to this thread.

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            • Tempest
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2004
              • 10217

              #7
              Originally posted by DVTimes
              Rather than charge $20 (or so) per month, I wonder if people would have better results if it was $5 per week re-bill.

              $5 does not seem such as much and I wonder if people would join then stay much longer.

              Its a shame ccbill does not allow less than 30 days.

              I was thinking of charging $4 per 4 days.
              You should go ahead and do that.. I'm positive you'll make a lot more money than a monthly rebill...

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              • Pseudonymous
                Photographer/Owner
                • Apr 2006
                • 2661

                #8
                You are taking into account, that when they cancel, you'll only get 4 or 5 dollars out of them instead of 20-30?
                Last edited by Pseudonymous; 07-16-2011, 03:47 PM.
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                • VIXEN ESCORTS
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1103

                  #9
                  Well he's just changed the pricing on all his sites from $34.95 recurring (remember this is Rosecabs and Cricket babes) to $4 for a 2 day trial then recurring at $18.95
                  Hope he told his affiliate.

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                  • Agent 488
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 22511

                    #10
                    Originally posted by UKVixens
                    Well he's just changed the pricing on all his sites from $34.95 recurring (remember this is Rosecabs and Cricket babes) to $4 for a 2 day trial then recurring at $18.95
                    Hope he told his affiliate.
                    what affiliate?

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                    • BareBacked
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 3685

                      #11
                      Credit card statements come montly
                      Billing is done monthly

                      Would you want one user to give you 4 cb's when he sees the statement ?
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                      • The Porn Nerd
                        Living The Dream
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 19787

                        #12
                        Okay class LISTEN UP, and take very good notes here. Ready? Okay, here we go.

                        Ahem, ahem:

                        NEVER REMIND YOUR CUSTOMERS THEY'RE YOUR CUSTOMER.
                        (How many people rebill month after month, then you send them an email or something and they remember and go "Oh shit! Gotta cancel that...")

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                        • VIXEN ESCORTS
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                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1103

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DVTimes
                          Rather than charge $20 (or so) per month, I wonder if people would have better results if it was $5 per week re-bill.

                          $5 does not seem such as much and I wonder if people would join then stay much longer.

                          Its a shame ccbill does not allow less than 30 days.

                          I was thinking of charging $4 per 4 days.
                          If you want lower price points, break your site down into individual animals, for example:

                          Fat Pig 1

                          Fat Pig 2

                          Ugly Dog 1

                          Ugly Dog 2

                          etc etc, you could even sell advertising to the WWF

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                          • ahoy
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 512

                            #14
                            Are you just fucking with us?

                            Some of your ideas, actually all of them, are so awful I am convinced you are just fucking with everyone.

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                            • Lint
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 254

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Agent 488
                              my mind is still reeling from how mind blowing this idea is. once my hands stop shaking and vision returns to normal i'll respond properly to this thread.

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                              • PornStarToys
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 581

                                #16
                                Why not just say you will charge them $5, and really charge them $10,000?

                                I doubt they will notice and you'll be rich!
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                                • PR_Dave
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 2792

                                  #17
                                  Weekly = 4 times the chargebacks.

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                                  • DamianJ
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2006
                                    • 15808

                                    #18
                                    And this, ladies and gents, is what Care In The Community produces

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                                    • wehateporn
                                      Promoting Debate on GFY
                                      • Apr 2007
                                      • 27176

                                      #19
                                      There's something in what you say DVTimes. If you go for an exact week or an exact month, it's easier for people to keep track of the date they need to cancel by, whereas if you went for 11 days or 17 days, most people can't keep track of that in their heads, which will mean more people forgetting to cancel on time.

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                                      • Chosen
                                        • Aug 2001
                                        • 63151

                                        #20
                                        Not a good idea...

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                                        • DamianJ
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2006
                                          • 15808

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by wehateporn
                                          There's something in what you say DVTimes. If you go for an exact week or an exact month, it's easier for people to keep track of the date they need to cancel by, whereas if you went for 11 days or 17 days, most people can't keep track of that in their heads, which will mean more people forgetting to cancel on time.
                                          It's nice to see you being as stupid here are you are on other forums.

                                          It's a sad day when your site is so shit you make plans to trick people into staying.

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                                          • wehateporn
                                            Promoting Debate on GFY
                                            • Apr 2007
                                            • 27176

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DamianJ
                                            It's nice to see you being as stupid here are you are on other forums.

                                            It's a sad day when your site is so shit you make plans to trick people into staying.

                                            I only have affiliate sites myself. I don't see many sites sending out reminder emails "It's your last chance to cancel now before you get rebilled tomorrow".

                                            If it's made clear from the start it's not a trick. When I go into the major supermarkets I see all kinds of "Tricks" e.g. initially setting a price too high so as it can then be reduced and have half price signs; when really the new price is what it should have been all along.

                                            This is all part of business these days. If you can avoid it yourself then good for you.

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                                            • DamianJ
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jul 2006
                                              • 15808

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by wehateporn
                                              I only have affiliate sites myself. I don't see many sites sending out reminder emails "It's your last chance to cancel now before you get rebilled tomorrow".

                                              Not sure what that has to do with my point?

                                              I am saying that if you are deliberately picking odd trial dates in order to try and fool customers into forgetting to cancel, then it's a sad day.

                                              Have sites that are better and that customers enjoy, then you don't need to try and hoodwink them into forgetting to cancel a trial.

                                              If your instinct to get customers is to try and gip them, then, well, that's a bit shit really.

                                              Originally posted by wehateporn
                                              When I go into the major supermarkets I see all kinds of "Tricks" e.g. initially setting a price too high so as it can then be reduced and have half price signs; when really the new price is what it should have been all along.
                                              Appaling analogy. You are suggesting making rebill cycles an unusual length to try and hope that customers are fooled into not canceling. That is nothing like a supermarket price point.

                                              Originally posted by wehateporn
                                              This is all part of business these days. If you can avoid it yourself then good for you.
                                              It's not a matter of can. In the UK if you try and mislead your customer in anyway, the ASA will now be on you. Check your site copy carefully. Have you really got 1,062 "high definition" videos there? Are you sure "no other site" has as much content as you?

                                              Also, just a point, I note you are laughably using technology that stops customers downloading what they have paid you money for by restricting use of a Download Manager!?! You realise this is 2011 and bandwidth costs as good as nothing?

                                              You are giving your *paying* customers a worse experience than if they pirated your bloody content. Get rid of it.
                                              Last edited by DamianJ; 07-17-2011, 04:11 AM.

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                                              • wehateporn
                                                Promoting Debate on GFY
                                                • Apr 2007
                                                • 27176

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                Also, just a point, I note you are laughably using technology that stops customers downloading what they have paid you money for by restricting use of a Download Manager!?! You realise this is 2011 and bandwidth costs as good as nothing?
                                                I've only got a moment right now, but who do you think I am? You mentioned I was on other forums and now you're linking me with a site that restricts the use of Download Manager. To be clear my main site is WeHatePorn.com and I have a number of very small affiliate sites. No paysites

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                                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                                  It's 42
                                                  • Jun 2010
                                                  • 18083

                                                  #25
                                                  You would end up paying the the flat rate transaction fee your processor charges 4.333x a month v. once per month apart from the ideas mentioned above.

                                                  Also, most monthly subscriptions are $30 to $40/month ...

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                                                  • DamianJ
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                    • 15808

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                    I've only got a moment right now, but who do you think I am? You mentioned I was on other forums and now you're linking me with a site that restricts the use of Download Manager. To be clear my main site is WeHatePorn.com and I have a number of very small affiliate sites. No paysites
                                                    I clicked on the 'downblouseloving' link in your sig.

                                                    I assumed that was your site, my bad.

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                                                    • DVTimes
                                                      xxx
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 31658

                                                      #27
                                                      In the real world pealy buy things daily and weekly not just monthly.

                                                      Pay as you go is very popular way to have a phone in the uk, so why not with porn.

                                                      We have had trials (from free to a few $$$) for a while.

                                                      Its not tricking people its simply charging them the same but over a month, rather than per month.

                                                      Anyway my salesa have shot up this week by charging $4 and then $16 per month.
                                                      XXX

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                                                      • Wizzo
                                                        2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                        • Nov 2000
                                                        • 15224

                                                        #28
                                                        The biggest problem with weekly rebills is it would be 4-5 transactions on every CC statement...
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                                                        • cooldude7
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2009
                                                          • 4306

                                                          #29
                                                          what about xsales ?

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                                                          • signupdamnit
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                            • 6697

                                                            #30
                                                            You are thinking independently. That is a good thing. But I think you will have to find a way around the CB and 4 transactions per month issue before it becomes viable.

                                                            BTW, as an affiliate I really don't like getting under $10 for a monthly join. As a highly experienced affiliate I hate it because I know most of the time I would make more at the normal rates even when taking into account slightly better conversion rates due to the lower price point. Just to give you some input. While I am technically an affiliate of yours I don't send you much traffic.

                                                            You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                            • The Porn Nerd
                                                              Living The Dream
                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                              • 19787

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                              Just to give you some input. While I am technically an affiliate of yours I don't send you much traffic.
                                                              Ouch. :D
                                                              You're not sending any my way either mofo. haha!
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                                                              • Agent 488
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                • 22511

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                You are thinking independently. That is a good thing. But I think you will have to find a way around the CB and 4 transactions per month issue before it becomes viable.

                                                                BTW, as an affiliate I really don't like getting under $10 for a monthly join. As a highly experienced affiliate I hate it because I know most of the time I would make more at the normal rates even when taking into account slightly better conversion rates due to the lower price point. Just to give you some input. While I am technically an affiliate of yours I don't send you much traffic.
                                                                yes sucks every time i get my whopping 4.95 x-art rebills, which sucks, and the site is great and sells well.

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                                                                • INever
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                  • 4031

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DamianJ


                                                                  It's not a matter of can. In the UK if you try and mislead your customer in anyway, the ASA will now be on you. Check your site copy carefully. Have you really got 1,062 "high definition" videos there? Are you sure "no other site" has as much content as you?


                                                                  this aint the UK
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                                                                  • DamianJ
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                    • 15808

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by INever


                                                                    this aint the UK
                                                                    Sorry, what is *this* you are referring to?

                                                                    The site downblouseloving I am referring to certainly is a UK site, and can get into trouble now from the Advertising Standards Authority for putting misleading sales copy.

                                                                    As is any UK operated site.

                                                                    This is a new piece of legislation and God Bless you and your American Pie for not needing to be interested, but this is an international forum.

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                                                                    • INever
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                      • 4031

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I know it's international forum. Nothing personal, was just "yanking" your chain.
                                                                      Last edited by INever; 07-17-2011, 09:49 AM.
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                                                                      • TheDA
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                        • 4665

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by INever


                                                                        this aint the UK
                                                                        Fucking idiot.
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                                                                        • signupdamnit
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                                          • 6697

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                                                                          Ouch. :D
                                                                          You're not sending any my way either mofo. haha!
                                                                          Well I didn't intend it quite in that way. I didn't wish to misrepresent myself as a big affiliate of his who is upset. The last time I checked I didn't have much traffic in his niches though I send him some.

                                                                          You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                          • The Porn Nerd
                                                                            Living The Dream
                                                                            • Jun 2009
                                                                            • 19787

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                            Well I didn't intend it quite in that way. I didn't wish to misrepresent myself as a big affiliate of his who is upset. The last time I checked I didn't have much traffic in his niches though I send him some.
                                                                            I know man, just kidding.
                                                                            Hope you are doing well with the sites you are promoting.
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                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 52942

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Here's a better idea. work out your average retention time. Must be all of 5 weeks. And sell a 3 month join for $30. This way you've lost very little, the potential customer thinks he's getting a great deal and yu get more sign ups.

                                                                              Before you say it about me, our average is a lot longer, so doing it would need to trable joins at least to break even.

                                                                              Cue Damian for a stupid reply.



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                                                                              • Sly
                                                                                Let's do some business!
                                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                                • 31376

                                                                                #40
                                                                                All we need now is for ArseWithClass to join the conversation and we'll have a complete thread.
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                                                                                • SGS
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                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 5176

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                  All we need now is for ArseWithClass to join the conversation and we'll have a complete thread.
                                                                                  lol 23456
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                                                                                  • NETbilling
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 8598

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                                    Rather than charge $20 (or so) per month, I wonder if people would have better results if it was $5 per week re-bill.

                                                                                    $5 does not seem such as much and I wonder if people would join then stay much longer.

                                                                                    Its a shame ccbill does not allow less than 30 days.

                                                                                    I was thinking of charging $4 per 4 days.
                                                                                    Hi,

                                                                                    With your own merchant account using a company like NETbilling to handle your processing, not only will you pay less than 3rd party processing but you will be able to set whatever billing interval you would like. We have many suggestions on what works and does not from our years of processing and gathered data.

                                                                                    Let us know if you are interested in making the switch.

                                                                                    Thanks, Mitch


                                                                                    Mitch Farber
                                                                                    CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                    Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                    Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                    • TheDA
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                      • 4665

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by NETbilling
                                                                                      Hi,

                                                                                      With your own merchant account using a company like NETbilling to handle your processing, not only will you pay less than 3rd party processing but you will be able to set whatever billing interval you would like. We have many suggestions on what works and does not from our years of processing and gathered data.

                                                                                      Let us know if you are interested in making the switch.

                                                                                      Thanks, Mitch
                                                                                      Ha ha. If only you knew.

                                                                                      Seriously. I can predict his response to you now.

                                                                                      "What si a mercany account? Who do I get won?"
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                                                                                      • RazorSharpe
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                                        • 2238

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by TheDA
                                                                                        Ha ha. If only you knew.

                                                                                        Seriously. I can predict his response to you now.

                                                                                        "What si a mercany account? Who do I get won?"
                                                                                        I'd say something but, I'm lost for words!! Who are ewe?
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                                                                                        • NETbilling
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                          • 8598

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          oh dear...


                                                                                          Mitch Farber
                                                                                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                          • DamianJ
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                            • 15808

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Mitch, you'll be able to retire on the $10 bucks a month DVTimes makes.

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                                                                                            • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                              • 122992

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Fuck WEEKLY you should do it DAILY !!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                                              lolollllllll

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