Damn, I should have started getting B-12 shots years ago...

"B-12 is also unusual in that it is dependent upon a second substance, called intrinsic factor, to make its way from the "GI" tract (gastrointestinal tract--the stomach and intestines) into the rest of the body. Without intrinsic factor, which is a unique protein made in the stomach, vitamin B12 cannot gain access to the rest of the body where it is needed."

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...rient&dbid=107

That's why the shots are so good.

^ boom! this guys got it!

Hey epitome thanks for this thread. I checked a naturopath and she is giving them for $12 on Fridays.

http://seattlenaturopathiccenter.com/default.aspx

microgram mcg opps

Yeah you're right, a single shot probably wouldn't shut you down, but it would likely do more harm than good.

uhmm.. yeah it does. your body will recover quite quickly with some variance depending on age, amounts, duration used etc. generally speaking, you will recover 100%

or you can just use something like HCG to jack natural production back up very quickly for a quick recovery. in fact, HCG alone, will also increase natural production substantially.

My brain went to hit the "LIKE" button immediately when I saw this post.

These two statements contradict each other. Yes you're right that age, dosage and duration will play a role in how long your body takes to recover, but you're wrong assuming everyone will recover 100% regardless of the factors above.

Hell, I know people who've taken 3-4 cycles of oral OTC prohormones like superdrol and M1T and their natural test levels never returned back to what they were, (even 6-12 months after PCT).

Even though in most cases your endocrine system will eventually recover to say it will recover 100% isn't an accurate statement to make.

Further more, the more important issue would be the damage done in between the time it takes for your endocrine system to start reproducing natural test. Gyno, heart conditions, brain function all suffer from very low testosterone levels in the body.

There is no contradiction. Recovering quickly and recovering 100% are two completely different concepts. I said "generally speaking, your body will recover 100%". I did not say "its absolutely impossible that there aren't exceptions"

Generally, you will recover 100%. You can argue all you want about "100%" and obviously there might be exceptions for a variety of reasons. Other than that, you haven't provided any real information that can be either argued or verified other than "i've known some people..." Generally speaking, there are not going to be any issues for an average person to start injecting a significant amount of test each week and then stop - the only issue is the time it takes for natural production to recover, assuming you do nothing to aid in recovery and assuming you do recover (there is the possibility you won't). I do it all the time. I do full blood panels all the time. I have assloads of friends who do it all the time, a substantial % of bodybuilders do it regularly and its certainly more common than anyone seems to realize it is.

Gyno for the most part, is only an issue if one is genetically predisposed to getting it to begin with and only an issue if you are a tard and not taking an aromatase inhibitor just in case (depending again on quantity etc).

Powerful drugs are powerful. They need to be treated as such.

Brain function suffers from low blood sugar as well... big deal

Anyway, personally i am a huge fan of HRT (Test/HGH). The benefits far outweigh any risks when used correctly. In fact, when it comes to test and hgh, the benefits far outweigh the risks when flat out abused... assuming you can live with the slight risk of never being able to stop.