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ESTHost/ESTDomains - how are these assholes still in business?

07-19-2007, 05:44 PM

How do these fuckers keep getting away with hosting sites that are well known to be linked to spamming, scamming, and installing viruses/trojans?

A simple search on either ESTdomains or ESThost returns hundreds of results of how they are the hosting of choice by scumbags.

Their whois info says they are located in the US

So how can they keep getting away with this?

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07-19-2007, 05:49 PM

They don't techincally do anything illegal.. Their "customers" do.
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07-19-2007, 05:51 PM

Tempest: incorrect. Estdomains is the customer, they are the host, the own the IP blocks, the hosting companies, and the domains used.

It's the russian mafia at it's finest.
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07-19-2007, 06:32 PM

arent the servers in the US?

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07-19-2007, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by RawAlex

Tempest: incorrect. Estdomains is the customer, they are the host, the own the IP blocks, the hosting companies, and the domains used.

It's the russian mafia at it's finest.

You sure about that? I can't remember what checking the ASINs resulted in. I thought that estdomains/esthosting was just a spin off of Intercage and that guys modus operandi is that his "customers" are the ones doing the illegal shit.

InHosters on the otherhand I think was RIPE IPs and russian.
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07-20-2007, 12:11 AM

Hello,

Intercage is no way affiliated with Esthost except for the fact they rent some servers from us. They also have there own netblock. Sorry for the confusion one of these days we will put up a website if we ever stop running out damn datacenter space!

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07-20-2007, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by intercage

Hello,

Intercage is no way affiliated with Esthost except for the fact they rent some servers from us. They also have there own netblock. Sorry for the confusion one of these days we will put up a website if we ever stop running out damn datacenter space!

Thanks!

Like I said.. The way you work is that your "customers" do the illegal shit so you can't be touched... Anyone that spends a few minutes searching for info on you thru google can see the long list of sites and people that use your stuff for cheating, stealing and installing viruses etc. My favorite though was you "buying" that block of IPs that belonged to LA.

I've been tracing shit that usualy ends up tracking back to you for over a year now.
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07-20-2007, 01:27 AM

Lots of idiotic companies stay in business because there are lots of idiotic customers who buy from them.

Look at all the people who give money to religious organizations..

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07-20-2007, 02:55 AM

It's the russian mafia at it's finest. - hm - russian? read EST - does not sounds for you similar to some EU country name? lol ;)

InHosters on the otherhand I think was RIPE IPs and russian. - inhosters never been russian ;)

just for info ;)

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07-20-2007, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by tolik

It's the russian mafia at it's finest. - hm - russian? read EST - does not sounds for you similar to some EU country name? lol ;)

Man, they don't need your info - because they know EVERYTHING better The biggest part of those guys who post here have no idea on how to say it correctly: "Iraq" or "Iran"

P.S. Yes, yes, Estonia is in Russia and in a same time it's in EU. So EU = Russia, and all the EU ppl. are KGB agents who work for Russian mafia. That's an authentic info - believe me

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07-20-2007, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Man, they don't need your info - because they know EVERYTHING better The biggest part of those guys who post here have no idea on how to say it correctly: "Iraq" or "Iran"

P.S. Yes, yes, Estonia is in Russia and in a same time it's in EU. So EU = Russia, and all the EU ppl. are KGB agents who work for Russian mafia. That's an authentic info - believe me

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07-20-2007, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by tolik

inhosters never been russian ;)

Ok.. You could be right... I sometimes still think of that area of the world in terms of the USSR.

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i.e. Ukraine.

Could be I "assumed" they were russion only because some of the "cheaters" etc. I've been finding lately have .ru email adresses.. some .ro mixed in there as well. I get confused sometimes when I don't take my meds... or maybe it's when I DO take my meds...
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07-20-2007, 03:32 AM

i also have .ru email adresses ;) it does not making me russian ;)

my very first email been at free mail service at mail.ru - because it been useful for me ;)

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07-20-2007, 03:33 AM

As about those cheaters how have their domains at estdomains. The truth is on the surface: estdomains has very affordable prices for their services

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07-20-2007, 03:35 AM

and yet, mostly Russians host at ESThost/ESTdomains
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07-20-2007, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by NTM

and yet, mostly Russians host at ESThost/ESTdomains

1) very affordable prices
2) alternative (for russians) payment options

so there's nothing surprising or strange about it

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07-20-2007, 05:34 AM

ah, and russian speaking support
very convenient for those who don't speak english fluently

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07-20-2007, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by NTM

and yet, mostly Russians host at ESThost/ESTdomains

I can't say most of Russians host there, but as about the domains - yes, it's a most-friendly service for many Russians because of alternative payment methods and quality of services. Course low prices are always some kind of a magnet for scammers and stupid noobs, but it's an underside of a coin for every service

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07-20-2007, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by everestcash

ah, and russian speaking support
very convenient for those who don't speak english fluently

Almost every serious adult-related company has a Russian-speaking support these days (ePass, TopBucks etc)

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07-20-2007, 09:56 AM

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07-20-2007, 11:45 AM

I was thinkin the same.
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07-20-2007, 01:10 PM

They are ghey....
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07-20-2007, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Tempest

Like I said.. The way you work is that your "customers" do the illegal shit so you can't be touched... Anyone that spends a few minutes searching for info on you thru google can see the long list of sites and people that use your stuff for cheating, stealing and installing viruses etc. My favorite though was you "buying" that block of IPs that belonged to LA.

I've been tracing shit that usualy ends up tracking back to you for over a year now.

LOL first of all you have zero idea what happened with that IP block. It dosn't matter if you believe it or not but it was a complete mistake. Not to mention you see some google results because I personally never have hidden any information. How many ISP owners or even people on this board disclose there full contact information? And what we are up to over 30K IP's and the biggest provider in our datacenter. Big deal we have a few google results from monday night quarterbacks. Are those sites online or complaints valid? No they are not because we process abuse reports just like anyone else.

It's just funny because that LA block incident was what close to 7 years ago? So 15 years down the road you will be saying again remember that LA block incident, hehhe.

But anyway it's Friday time to relax for the weekend ;-).

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07-20-2007, 04:10 PM

Lol, thread with EST gets 20 replies, with everyone jumping in, but when isprime does something shady, it gets 2 replies.

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07-20-2007, 04:44 PM

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Spyware/?p=763 :

Atrivo/Intercage do have *some* legitimate customers, and they can be very vocal. But the sheer quantity of abuse in their netblock, from exploits to fraud to KP to spam of all forms, outweighs the legit material by a mile IMO.

And it?s no accident: they are unresponsive to complaints, and have admitted they won?t can Esthost - their biggest customer, CWS epicentre and #1 blackhat host in the world - despite being aware of the immense abuse they are responsible for.
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07-20-2007, 05:11 PM

Intercage/ESTHost/ESTDomains... i hope your entire family burns alive in a car fire
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07-20-2007, 07:06 PM

Against Feb. 1st 2006, and what the first or second pick from google. Wow that certainly shows a lot! Nobody is doubting there was abuse but who dosn't have abuse. I myself try to be extremely vocal and make sure everything reported gets shut down. That is the best that I can do. What is most disturbing is the vast majority of you guys have never even stepped foot in a datacenter let alone saw what it takes to manage one.

"According to reports, iPowerWeb, Layered Technologies, The Planet, Internap Network Services and CHINANET Guangdong province network have the largest number of infected sites on their servers, putting unwitting Internet users at risk, says the organization. Based on analysis of close to 50,000 sites, the group identified these five companies as hosting a majority of the Web sites known to distribute malicious code. StopBadWare.org says iPowerWeb is hosting a little over 10 thousand of the infected sites on its servers alone."

Damn that seems like a ton of abuse! Yeah the strangest thing happens and groups like Spamhaus completely ignore them. Or will block every day /30 as they pop up and play games. Does it have to do with maybe them paying off Spamhaus, hmmmmm could be.

A lot of you need to grow up, I am not some kid who hides behind a anonymous desk.

"Intercage/ESTHost/ESTDomains... i hope your entire family burns alive in a car fire"

Same goes to you buddy!

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07-21-2007, 07:26 PM

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07-21-2007, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by intercage

Hello,

Intercage is no way affiliated with Esthost except for the fact they rent some servers from us. They also have there own netblock. Sorry for the confusion one of these days we will put up a website if we ever stop running out damn datacenter space!

Thanks!

why dont you guys close there acounts ???

If I did something ilegal or did something to break the Teams & Connections of my hosting

I would be closed down with out warning and no refund

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07-21-2007, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by intercage

"Intercage/ESTHost/ESTDomains... i hope your entire family burns alive in a car fire"

Same goes to you buddy!

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07-22-2007, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Man, they don't need your info - because they know EVERYTHING better The biggest part of those guys who post here have no idea on how to say it correctly: "Iraq" or "Iran"

P.S. Yes, yes, Estonia is in Russia and in a same time it's in EU. So EU = Russia, and all the EU ppl. are KGB agents who work for Russian mafia. That's an authentic info - believe me

Ah Cyberxxx, getting a little cynical there. You a little upset cause GFY doesnt like scammers?
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07-22-2007, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

I can't say most of Russians host there, but as about the domains - yes, it's a most-friendly service for many Russians because of alternative payment methods and quality of services. Course low prices are always some kind of a magnet for scammers and stupid noobs, but it's an underside of a coin for every service

So you know that EST are a magnet of scammers yet you still keep your domains there. Nice job buddy, will really further your shady reputation.
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07-22-2007, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by bigalownz

why dont you guys close there acounts ???

If I did something ilegal or did something to break the Teams & Connections of my hosting

I would be closed down with out warning and no refund

these guys dont give a fuck
last week i reported a site that was filled with trojans and was involved in spamming/scamming, all they did was shut down the site temporarily to shut me up.

it was back up 1 hour later

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07-22-2007, 04:25 AM

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Ah Cyberxxx, getting a little cynical there. You a little upset cause GFY doesnt like scammers?

I don't give a shit about scammers so why should I be upset? BTW, who are you? Another surfer who has a hand on his cock reading GFY? Looking for a good free porn resources? Don't hesitate to contact me - I'll give the links.

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07-22-2007, 04:33 AM

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So you know that EST are a magnet of scammers yet you still keep your domains there. Nice job buddy, will really further your shady reputation.

Why not? NY and LA are well-known magnets of killers, rapists, drug-dealers, and mobs. Is that a reason for anyone to leave those places and relocate to another state/country? As I said above, estdomains has very affordable prices and good service. As about the scammers, so they are everywhere. Do you remember IBill? What's is their domain registrar? Ah, GODADDY.COM... So should I call them scammers for providing their domain-services to a greatest scamming company ever? What's about Zango and others?

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07-22-2007, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Why not? NY and LA are well-known magnets of killers, rapists, drug-dealers, and mobs. Is that a reason for anyone to leave those places and relocate to another state/country? As I said above, estdomains has very affordable prices and good service. As about the scammers, so they are everywhere. Do you remember IBill? What's is their domain registrar? Ah, GODADDY.COM... So should I call them scammers for providing their domain-services to a greatest scamming company ever? What's about Zango and others?

Why not? Because this industry is small compared to NY and LA (very bad examples btw) and EST is hurting the industry. But kudos to you for helping them out. We know you don't care, just wanted to hear you say it. Now go back to ripping people off you shady piece of shit.
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07-22-2007, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Why not? NY and LA are well-known magnets of killers, rapists, drug-dealers, and mobs. Is that a reason for anyone to leave those places and relocate to another state/country? As I said above, estdomains has very affordable prices and good service. As about the scammers, so they are everywhere. Do you remember IBill? What's is their domain registrar? Ah, GODADDY.COM... So should I call them scammers for providing their domain-services to a greatest scamming company ever? What's about Zango and others?

Why not? Because this industry is small compared to NY and LA (very bad examples btw) and EST is hurting the industry. But kudos to you for helping them out. We know you don't care, just wanted to hear you say it. Now go back to ripping people off you shady piece of shit.
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07-22-2007, 09:02 AM

these guys dont give a fuck
last week i reported a site that was filled with trojans and was involved in spamming/scamming, all they did was shut down the site temporarily to shut me up.

it was back up 1 hour later

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07-22-2007, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by TerryMiller

Why not? Because this industry is small compared to NY and LA (very bad examples btw) and EST is hurting the industry. But kudos to you for helping them out. We know you don't care, just wanted to hear you say it. Now go back to ripping people off you shady piece of shit.

What are you talking about moron? What do you mean on "ripping people off" and "shady"? Any arguments? Once again: who are you, and what are you doing on adult industry-related board? I don't see any projects in your signature. Would you like to show them to us? Why are you hiding? For everyone here you just a scumbag without any contact info. Why do you think anybody here should give a shit about you? So just STFU!

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07-22-2007, 01:36 PM

these guys dont give a fuck
last week i reported a site that was filled with trojans and was involved in spamming/scamming, all they did was shut down the site temporarily to shut me up.

it was back up 1 hour later

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07-22-2007, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Why not? NY and LA are well-known magnets of killers, rapists, drug-dealers, and mobs. Is that a reason for anyone to leave those places and relocate to another state/country? As I said above, estdomains has very affordable prices and good service. As about the scammers, so they are everywhere. Do you remember IBill? What's is their domain registrar? Ah, GODADDY.COM... So should I call them scammers for providing their domain-services to a greatest scamming company ever? What's about Zango and others?

Wow you know nothing and are a complete idiot

As for esthost/domains no comment.. I'm not a hater, but people who know what they are know what they are

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07-23-2007, 01:02 PM

c'mon!!!!

i work at esthost as a sysadmin. we close all the shit immediately. our abuse team is working ok. we don't ignore anything. absolutely.

Myst, i wrote to your icq. you asked me to close some domains because of youtube spam. Are they online yet? Ha, they're not.

We are not cheaters, we are fine hosting company and domain registrar. Have you ever contacted us before posting here?

This all is shit, you know. We close everything illegal immediately. And this is truth.

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07-23-2007, 01:16 PM

what about domains.

i think i should write about the same here.

we close domains for wrong whois information. we can't close domains for hosting malware and stuff. this is icann rules. but whois information is always wrong there: and if you submit something about that. the site will be down in 15 days. if the owner doesn't change a thing. got it?

we have very nice prices. even less that registry themselves bill us. that's because we have so many "dirty" domains. BUT! if anything comes to our attention - domain is blocked. that is absolutely. SO. before writing here: "esthost is cheater", "estdomains are fraud" please report us about the same.

we work. and you work. we work together. and this is not truth what you writing here.
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07-23-2007, 02:23 PM

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c'mon!!!!

i work at esthost as a sysadmin. we close all the shit immediately. our abuse team is working ok. we don't ignore anything. absolutely.

Myst, i wrote to your icq. you asked me to close some domains because of youtube spam. Are they online yet? Ha, they're not.

We are not cheaters, we are fine hosting company and domain registrar. Have you ever contacted us before posting here?

This all is shit, you know. We close everything illegal immediately. And this is truth.

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07-23-2007, 03:40 PM

Rag on Estonians, 44 replies. Similar things on isprime, 3 replies :P

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07-24-2007, 05:31 AM

Hola, Myst.

Please give me the links of what is online on our hosting? If you can't just go and kill yourself.
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07-24-2007, 05:35 AM

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20:00:28: the domains are
20:00:36: XXXodour.com
20:00:38: tube4adult.com
20:00:44: and a few others..
20:00:57: this person is comment spamming youtube
20:01:03: youtube.com/watch?v=tYFxyM9evy4 for example
20:02:48: UnionCams.com and sexdating4free are others
20:03:05: youtube.com/watch?v=jTMqFqDXy-k&mode=related&search=
20:03:21: not only is he comment spamming close to 200,000+ videos on youtube
20:03:28: he has a virus on his page
20:03:37: in infect more computers
20:03:54: 5 min
20:03:58: i'm closing these domains
20:04:12: thank you
20:05:21: please report to youtube to close this account
20:05:30: i've suspended these domains
20:05:32: he has thousands of accounts
20:05:37: they are on our virtual hosting server
20:05:39: i see
20:05:41: oka
20:05:45: will his hosting be terminated?
20:05:56: yes
20:06:00: it is already
20:06:19: please see SexDating4Free.com
20:06:23: thank you
20:06:39: feel free to contact us any further

And what now:

Pinging sexdating4free.com [81.0.195.188] with 32 bytes of data:

these are not our IPs. They may be online, but not with us. Ok?
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