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07-09-2011, 02:28 PM

Hey folks first back out of hospital once again had a P.E Tue night "Pulmonary embolism" thank god it was small but scared the hell out of me, it hurt worse then when I had my heart attack! They did find another tumor under my arm so have to go back to cancer Dr. sooner then later! Ok enough with that just letting folks know since I haven't been around a lot lately!

now here is the deal, my 11 year old son was caught playing with fire by his mom when he went to visit, I caught him once already! I tried looking for pictures of kids that are burned but can't seem to find any, can anyone point me to the right place to find pictures of kids burned and after they heal what they look like? Thanks a million.

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07-09-2011, 02:30 PM

please elaborate.
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07-09-2011, 02:33 PM

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please elaborate.

um... he took a lighter and burned some small pieces of wood, and some fur from the dog, THE FUR was NOT ON THE DOG at the time!
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07-09-2011, 02:38 PM

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*pukes* thanks knew you wouldn't let me down brother! Thanks keep them coming please or send to me at [email protected] this I prey will help scare the shit out of him enough not to play with fire!
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07-09-2011, 02:41 PM

Have you ever watched Arrested Development?

Make an actual event that scares the crap out of him

Or in the movie Shallow Hal it shows kids who were burn victims.

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07-09-2011, 02:43 PM

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Have you ever watched Arrested Development?

Make an actual event that scares the crap out of him

Or in the movie Shallow Hal it shows kids who were burn victims.

Yea im waiting for the fire dept to call me back, going to try that route as well!
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07-09-2011, 02:45 PM

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That's Harlequin-type ichthyosis

If you really wanted to you could find a bunch of scary pics like that. It's not burn victims but if you're just trying to scare him I guess it works

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07-09-2011, 02:48 PM

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That's Harlequin-type ichthyosis

If you really wanted to you could find a bunch of scary pics like that. It's not burn victims but if you're just trying to scare him I guess it works

http://www.google.com/search?q=Harle...w=1681&bih=952

Thanks that's the shit I was looking for! Im going to talk with the capt at the fire dept first before I show my 11 year old this, don't want to fuck him up for life, see what they say I should and shouldn't do ya know?
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07-09-2011, 03:16 PM

Set something he really likes on fire and make him watch it.

Something he thinks wouldn't be replaceable (but is)

The other thing you could do, start teaching him stunts
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07-09-2011, 03:28 PM

if you live in a good size city take him to a pediatric burn unit to volunteer for a day or two

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07-09-2011, 04:01 PM

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Hey folks first back out of hospital once again had a P.E Tue night "Pulmonary embolism" thank god it was small but scared the hell out of me, it hurt worse then when I had my heart attack! They did find another tumor under my arm so have to go back to cancer Dr. sooner then later! Ok enough with that just letting folks know since I haven't been around a lot lately!

now here is the deal, my 11 year old son was caught playing with fire by his mom when he went to visit, I caught him once already! I tried looking for pictures of kids that are burned but can't seem to find any, can anyone point me to the right place to find pictures of kids burned and after they heal what they look like? Thanks a million.

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07-09-2011, 04:37 PM

My old man would burn my finger tips,not so they would blister but hurt like hell

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07-09-2011, 04:42 PM

What's wrong with playing with fire anyway? At least he is doing something active instead of sitting in front of a tv the whole day like most the kids these days...

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07-09-2011, 05:50 PM

I always burned everything when I was younger. Nothing will scare the kid. Give him a place where he can burn anything he wants. That will do it!!
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07-09-2011, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Fungus

Thanks that's the shit I was looking for! Im going to talk with the capt at the fire dept first before I show my 11 year old this, don't want to fuck him up for life, see what they say I should and shouldn't do ya know?

The guy at the fire department will have good information for you, but, he doesn't know what you should or should not expose your kid to - YOU should make that call.
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07-10-2011, 12:17 AM

Don't all kids play with fire?

Sign him up for the scouts, then he can do it safely.
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07-10-2011, 12:38 AM

All kids are firebugs. Only the dumb ones get caught. You need to teach him better.
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07-10-2011, 01:13 AM

I'm more on the teach than just scare side of this. He's at the age where he's supposed to be learning how to build a fire, learn about fireworks, etc. So he's doing exactly what he's supposed to do. It's only up to you whether in scouts or in the basement. A healthy respect for fire is part of the learning it's time for, of course. You can choose to teach him how to properly build a safe camp fire, clearing all flammable items well out of area. You can teach him about drought and dry grass. You could also just teach him that dad is an asshole. Learning nothing more than "dad is mean", you'll raise a dumb ass who is also an asshole, just like dad.

Sure make clear to him the damage fire can do, but mainly to make clear what he SHOULD do - learn about fire under adult supervision only, move lighter fluid away before lighting a grill, etc. Teaching SHOULDS serves a man his whole life.

Heck , while he's interested you could probably even suggest that he read up on what fire actually is and the three elements essential to fire and then explain to you what he learned. That's useful, practical knowledge and gets him interested in chemistry and physics.

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07-10-2011, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by Fungus

um... he took a lighter and burned some small pieces of wood, and some fur from the dog, THE FUR was NOT ON THE DOG at the time!

Bit tame really. I was expecting it to be something like he'd burned someone's house down.

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07-10-2011, 03:48 AM

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Don't all kids play with fire?

Sign him up for the scouts, then he can do it safely.

I agree. The minimum age requirement is 10 1/2, so he's old enough. Teaching safety is a big part of scouting.

I assume you have already given him a lecture or otherwise reprimanded him for what he has already done. If you continue to dwell on it when he hasn't done anything more, you may be doing more harm than good.

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07-10-2011, 04:02 AM

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07-10-2011, 05:21 AM

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What's wrong with playing with fire anyway? At least he is doing something active instead of sitting in front of a tv the whole day like most the kids these days...

kids need to learn there is a proper time and place and "repect" the power a fire has. kid wants to have a bonfire at night, fine but there is a proper place to do so, a proper way to set it up and a proper way to put it out. maybe put him in scouts or something like that.

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07-10-2011, 05:26 AM

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I always burned everything when I was younger. Nothing will scare the kid. Give him a place where he can burn anything he wants. That will do it!!

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07-10-2011, 09:18 AM

Thanks guys, I went the way of grounding him, talking to him taken his games away and then more talk, even suggested we build a camp fire in the back yard. Thanks for all the help
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07-10-2011, 11:37 AM

There's a story in the book Emile by Jean Jacques Rousseau, goes something like this, paraphrased. Emile is about a tutor and his student.

To teach his student, the tutor works out an arrangement with a local farmer to use a small piece of his land for a summer. They go and plant a vegetable garden. Every few days they visit it, and care for the plants as they develop and produce vegetables.

Close to harvest time, the tutor makes sure to convey his excitement at their progress, culminating in harvest day.

The day before they're to harvest the vegetables, the tutor visits the farmer and asks him to cut everything down and save them for him, and that he's trying to teach his student a lesson.

The day arrives and the student is very excited to go and harvest his vegetables. They arrive, and there's nothing left. Everything has been stolen and destroyed. The child bursts into tears. The teacher says not to worry, but that people should respect other people's property. He suggests they should go and talk to the farmer.

The farmer explains that he's very sorry, but he wanted to save them the work and prepare the vegetables for them, a misunderstanding. The child is very happy to have the fruits of his labour back, and has learned really valuable lessons of what it's like to put time and care into something only for someone else to steal or destroy it.

Most importantly, he doesn't just say he understands, but knows exactly what it feels like to find your property destroyed.

There's almost always a sneaky way like this to teach your children by leading them to the solution rather than directly telling them your opinion.

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07-10-2011, 12:26 PM

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Sign him up for the scouts, then he can do it safely.

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07-10-2011, 03:00 PM

I played with fire as a kid and nothing terrible happened.

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07-10-2011, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Fungus

Hey folks first back out of hospital once again had a P.E Tue night "Pulmonary embolism" thank god it was small but scared the hell out of me, it hurt worse then when I had my heart attack! They did find another tumor under my arm so have to go back to cancer Dr. sooner then later! Ok enough with that just letting folks know since I haven't been around a lot lately!

now here is the deal, my 11 year old son was caught playing with fire by his mom when he went to visit, I caught him once already! I tried looking for pictures of kids that are burned but can't seem to find any, can anyone point me to the right place to find pictures of kids burned and after they heal what they look like? Thanks a million.

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07-10-2011, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Fungus

Hey folks first back out of hospital once again had a P.E Tue night "Pulmonary embolism" thank god it was small but scared the hell out of me, it hurt worse then when I had my heart attack! They did find another tumor under my arm so have to go back to cancer Dr. sooner then later! Ok enough with that just letting folks know since I haven't been around a lot lately!

now here is the deal, my 11 year old son was caught playing with fire by his mom when he went to visit, I caught him once already! I tried looking for pictures of kids that are burned but can't seem to find any, can anyone point me to the right place to find pictures of kids burned and after they heal what they look like? Thanks a million.

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Sit down with him and bring him up to speed on the arson laws, especially the typical prison sentences.

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07-10-2011, 07:10 PM

Sounds like a real Boy Scout to me.

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07-10-2011, 07:20 PM

man my brothers and I used to run around with jerry cans full of gas

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