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  • PornoMonster
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 2257
    #51
    Originally posted by Vendzilla
    DF, Total failure on your part

    He said he worked for Coca Cola for 17 years and was suffering pain from slipped disc's. The guy then knows that Coca Cola gets sued all the time for Workman's comp and could and still can get it after working that long for that company. I know, I worked for Coca Cola for 9 years.

    To use this to bash the GOP is just a lame attempt as usual from you. Healthcare reform is needed, just not the one that Obama came up with
    A few states, and one I live in, just passed laws getting rid of "over time injuries"
    I think it is total BS, but both sides passed it here.
    You have to report the injury immediately when it happened, and if you can't, the over time could of been caused by a childhood injury or some shit they say.

    Just a FYI... As I live in one of the worse work comp states.
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      • PornoMonster
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        • Mar 2003
        • 2257
        #52
        Originally posted by nation-x
        http://www.whitehouse.gov/healthreform/myths-and-facts


        Secondly, if millions of more people are actually having their care paid for that reduces cost because it lowers the cost to providers by covering those who wouldn't normally pay... thanks for playing though.
        Those cost are wrote off on taxes.
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          • PR_Glen
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            • Oct 2006
            • 9058
            #53
            Originally posted by Vendzilla
            DF, Total failure on your part

            He said he worked for Coca Cola for 17 years and was suffering pain from slipped disc's. The guy then knows that Coca Cola gets sued all the time for Workman's comp and could and still can get it after working that long for that company. I know, I worked for Coca Cola for 9 years.

            To use this to bash the GOP is just a lame attempt as usual from you. Healthcare reform is needed, just not the one that Obama came up with
            that being said, can you tell the difference between coke and pepsi? I have a great pallet for food and beverages normally but i fail that blind test every single time!
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              • nation-x
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2004
                • 5370
                #54
                Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                This story is a PERFECT example of how fucked up our government is, and here's why:

                Government policy influences human behavior.

                Instead of slashing taxes and getting rid of ALL social programs, thus truly stimulating the economy and invigorating markets and this creating jobs so this poor guy can get a job and make a living and pay for his own health care needs..

                ..the government raises taxes, kills the economy, and forces an absurd, wasteful, bloated, and corrupt system which forces people to commit crimes to get free government health care giveaways..

                Don't you see how this pathetic story is the PERFECT lesson of what is wrong with the big government/ Democratic method?
                Yeah... because third world policies like you suggest really work to help the poor people to get jobs and pay for things... you say it so it must be true... too bad there are so many examples that prove your assertion false all over the world. What really happens is that the middle class is eliminated and the poor live in absolute squalor.

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                  • nation-x
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                    • Mar 2004
                    • 5370
                    #55
                    Originally posted by PornoMonster
                    Those cost are wrote off on taxes.
                    Thanks for playing!
                    No they aren't... thanks for playing!

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                      • Tom_PM
                        Porn Meister
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 16443
                        #56
                        I think you're referring to the Affordable Care Act.

                        He could have contacted Catholic Charities. They will help you get seen by a doctor for free.
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                          • 96ukssob
                            So Fucking Banananananas
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 12991
                            #57
                            saw that yesterday. pretty fucked up that people resort to this type of behavior
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                              • BFT3K
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 10764
                                #58
                                I <3 nation-x - easily my favorite poster on this board!

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                                  • DaddyHalbucks
                                    A freakin' legend!
                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 18975
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by nation-x
                                    Yeah... because third world policies like you suggest really work to help the poor people to get jobs and pay for things... you say it so it must be true... too bad there are so many examples that prove your assertion false all over the world. What really happens is that the middle class is eliminated and the poor live in absolute squalor.
                                    The proof is all around you. Open your eyes.

                                    We have more social programs than ever before. We have more government takeovers, bailouts, and freebies than ever before.

                                    And yet, the Middle Class is hurting and the poor are hurting worse. We have lost millions of jobs and the housing market has collapsed.

                                    If the big government method worked --you would see results --and yet all around us is destruction.
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                                      • Vendzilla
                                        Biker Gnome
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 23200
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by TheDoc
                                        What happened last November that was different than any other midterm? You thinking in your head it's some type of sweep, that a few people making it in, means an end all... is pure silly.
                                        Worse since the depression, but go ahead and keep spinning that
                                        Okay? You can have slipped discs and work, it's a problem if they bulge and are slipped. And again, it could have happened while mowing his yard and nothing to do with work.
                                        If he worked at Coke and had a bad back after 17 years, he was a moron for not getting WC, But you know better than me, I was only a Coke employee for 9 years and know nothing about how they work?

                                        Originally posted by nation-x
                                        First of all... your assumption that Republicans didn't have any input in the ACA is false. The final Senate bill included 147 Republican amendments.
                                        Not my assumption, the fact no one voted for it from the gop
                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                        think about that

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                                          • nation-x
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                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 5370
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                            The proof is all around you. Open your eyes.

                                            We have more social programs than ever before. We have more government takeovers, bailouts, and freebies than ever before.

                                            And yet, the Middle Class is hurting and the poor are hurting worse. We have lost millions of jobs and the housing market has collapsed.

                                            If the big government method worked --you would see results --and yet all around us is destruction.
                                            Yeah... at the hands of massive deregulation, wealth redistribution to corporations and the rich through subsidies and unfair taxation, incentivized outsourcing and neoconservative global conquest.

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                                              • PornoMonster
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 2257
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by nation-x
                                                No they aren't... thanks for playing!
                                                My sister owns a medical collection company, and trust me the things that go on are earth moving.
                                                Let's jsut say we are both right and wrong, they do get to write off as a business loss people that do not pay. Do they get to write off the entire bill, NO.
                                                Why?
                                                Because, the amount a medical place charges for insurance and to cash paying people, to ACTUAL cost is a BIG difference..

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                                                  • BFT3K
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Dec 2005
                                                    • 10764
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by nation-x
                                                    Yeah... at the hands of massive deregulation, wealth redistribution to corporations and the rich through subsidies and unfair taxation, incentivized outsourcing and neoconservative global conquest.
                                                    Once again nation-x bitch slaps the brainwashed buffoons!

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                                                      • Minte
                                                        Babemeister
                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 7081
                                                        #64
                                                        Maybe he is just a worthless lazy bastard who would rather get a handout than actually work for a living

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                                                          • nation-x
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 5370
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                            the fact no one voted for it from the gop
                                                            Ok... so even though 147 Republican amendments were made to the bill... you say that the Republicans were prevented from the process due to the fact they voted against the bill?

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                                                              • nation-x
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                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 5370
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by PornoMonster
                                                                Because, the amount a medical place charges for insurance and to cash paying people, to ACTUAL cost is a BIG difference..
                                                                That is the point. They inflate what they charge paying customers in order to cover their loss. The point of mandating insurance is to address that issue by reducing the number of people who don't pay.

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                                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                    • 23200
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by nation-x
                                                                    Ok... so even though 147 Republican amendments were made to the bill... you say that the Republicans were prevented from the process due to the fact they voted against the bill?
                                                                    they represent their voters, they didn't want the bill to become law, doesn't that bother you?

                                                                    Just because the Dems used some of the ideas the GOP came up with, that makes it ok? hey if you're ok with that, then it must be right.
                                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                    think about that

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                                                                      • nation-x
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 5370
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                        they represent their voters, they didn't want the bill to become law, doesn't that bother you?

                                                                        Just because the Dems used some of the ideas the GOP came up with, that makes it ok? hey if you're ok with that, then it must be right.
                                                                        More than 70% of voters support eliminating the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich... Republicans voted against that... doesn't that bother you? Those tax cuts cost more than twice what "ObamaCare" costs... $2.5 Trillion to date.

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                                                                          • Tom_PM
                                                                            Porn Meister
                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                            • 16443
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Actually most americans want the Affordable Care Act and every study other than completely partisan shows how much money it'll save. But that shouldnt stop anyone from arguing against it because facts and reason rarely get in the way of politics.
                                                                            43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                              • nation-x
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                • 5370
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                                Actually most americans want the Affordable Care Act and every study other than completely partisan shows how much money it'll save. But that shouldnt stop anyone from arguing against it because facts and reason rarely get in the way of politics.

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                                                                                  • PornoMonster
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 2257
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by nation-x
                                                                                    That is the point. They inflate what they charge paying customers in order to cover their loss. The point of mandating insurance is to address that issue by reducing the number of people who don't pay.
                                                                                    No, the Inflate the cost, because they are greedy, and well insurance companies pay, and raise rates.

                                                                                    I must not be clear on what I was saying from my phone, let me try again.

                                                                                    The Medical companies get to write off ACTUAL COST on taxes as business loss.

                                                                                    But yes, Inflated costs are the problem.
                                                                                    People need to pay, Insurance needs to be done away with.
                                                                                    My parents talk about, the Doc came out, or when you wnet it, he sent you a reasonable bill. You payed it right then if you could, or as much as you could ev ery paycheck. No Inflated costs, and people paid for their Bills.
                                                                                    Funny people wont pay a couple K medical bill because they dont have insurance, but they can buy a $2,500 Plasma TV, and $150 a month for Cable TV..

                                                                                    Is there Bigger medical expenses, YEP but there are also TONS of groups that raise money for tragic events, Cancer, and so on.

                                                                                    NO side can fix GREED.

                                                                                    I have heard from Canada people that if you want better than so so coverage you PAY for it. the wait times to get an MRI are crazy. But biggest thing is, how do they pay for all this? HUGE TAXES...
                                                                                    Can't tax most of these freeloaders that have no jobs anyway!
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                                                                                      • nation-x
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                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 5370
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by PornoMonster
                                                                                        HUGE TAXES...
                                                                                        Income tax rates in Canada aren't that much different than the US... lower in many cases.

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                                                                                          • DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                            A freakin' legend!
                                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                                            • 18975
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by nation-x
                                                                                            Yeah... at the hands of massive deregulation, wealth redistribution to corporations and the rich through subsidies and unfair taxation, incentivized outsourcing and neoconservative global conquest.
                                                                                            LOL. Bill Clinton was the king of deregulation.

                                                                                            You don't "redistribute" wealth to wealthy people and corporations. That is a contradiction. The question is how to tax them. If you tax them fairly, they create jobs. If you sock it to them, they contract and close businesses.

                                                                                            Actually, it is the lower classes who do not pay their fair share. Many on the lower end of the scale pay no taxes at all, yet they consume the most in government services.

                                                                                            Outsourcing is good, in theory. You outsource the lower skilled lesser paying jobs --and the American workforce upgrades and provides higher skilled and better paying jobs. The problem is that spoiled American workers and arrogant union leaders want special rules and benefits that are not available to the public at large, such as seniority, platinum pensions, guarantees of every type, etc..

                                                                                            "neoconservative global conquest" --"Whatever."
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                                                                                              • TheDoc
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                • 13827
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                Worse since the depression, but go ahead and keep spinning that
                                                                                                Spin what? It happens, it's natural, it's always happened and it wasn't as bad either.... and Roosevelt still went on to serve two terms.

                                                                                                * shakes head *


                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                If he worked at Coke and had a bad back after 17 years, he was a moron for not getting WC, But you know better than me, I was only a Coke employee for 9 years and know nothing about how they work?
                                                                                                Okay? You worked for them in his State, under his States laws which are different than your States, all around?

                                                                                                And how do you know he didn't get it already, maybe his issues fixed, paid out, and he went back to work for years... maybe it was hurt before or after he worked for them.

                                                                                                Maybe he didn't want to put up with the bullshit, paper work, or give a fuck and just said fuck you people I'm tired and took the easy way out?

                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                Not my assumption, the fact no one voted for it from the gop
                                                                                                Republicans aren't allowed to think outside the the box or have a different opinion, it's one way or the the wrong way with them, period!
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                                                                                                  • BFT3K
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Dec 2005
                                                                                                    • 10764
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                    If you tax them fairly, they create jobs.
                                                                                                    10 years of super low (to no) taxes on the wealthy and the largest corps - so where are the jobs?

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                                                                                                      • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                                        • 18975
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by nation-x
                                                                                                        Income tax rates in Canada aren't that much different than the US... lower in many cases.
                                                                                                        You are kidding, right?

                                                                                                        Everything seems to cost more in Canada.. from food to gasoline to services.

                                                                                                        A few months ago, I was looking at some real estate in BC, and the agent mentioned an HST tax of 12% on it. Holy simolians! Why would I want to pay for other peoples' health care? The Canadians are smoking some serious 'tax crack.'

                                                                                                        It's why I only visit Canada --and don't live there and invest there. If they ever get rid of the socialism up there, I might consider it much more seriously. It's a beautiful country.
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                                                                                                          • DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                            A freakin' legend!
                                                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                                                            • 18975
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                            10 years of super low (to no) taxes on the wealthy and the largest corps - so where are the jobs?
                                                                                                            That's a red herring.

                                                                                                            Who wants to create jobs when you are punished for doing so? I won't hire people. There's no reason to. All you get is taxes, redtape, and more taxes.

                                                                                                            And, because of the lousy economy, there is just less demand in general.
                                                                                                            Last edited by DaddyHalbucks; 06-22-2011, 09:20 AM.
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                                                                                                              • nation-x
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                                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                • 5370
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                                LOL. Bill Clinton was the king of deregulation.
                                                                                                                agreed...

                                                                                                                Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                                You don't "redistribute" wealth to wealthy people and corporations. That is a contradiction.
                                                                                                                The greatest percentage of people paying taxes earn between $33k and $150k and they pay over 60% of income taxes. That is a fact that belies your assumption. That is the middle class paying for the majority $1.2 Trillion in subsidies annually. Yes, the wealthy (top 1%) pay roughly 38% of income taxes... and they earn over 40% of the income.

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                                                                                                                  • BFT3K
                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                    • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                    • 10764
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                                    That's a red herring.

                                                                                                                    Who wants to create jobs when you are punished for doing so? I won't hire people. There's no reason to. All you get is taxes, redtape, and more taxes.

                                                                                                                    And, because of the lousy economy, there is just less demand in general.
                                                                                                                    Yeah, and I don't want to win the lottery because I'll have to pay 50% in taxes...

                                                                                                                    If there was money to be made, hiring would take place. Don't be ridiculous.

                                                                                                                    Obama hasn't raised taxes, so I suppose you haven't hired anyone since ? ? ? ?
                                                                                                                    Last edited by BFT3K; 06-22-2011, 09:27 AM.

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                                                                                                                      • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                        Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                        • 23200
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by nation-x
                                                                                                                        More than 70% of voters support eliminating the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich... Republicans voted against that... doesn't that bother you? Those tax cuts cost more than twice what "ObamaCare" costs... $2.5 Trillion to date.
                                                                                                                        Stick with the subject, we were talking about the healthcare law, not taxes

                                                                                                                        Love how when people lose an argument, they resort to changing the subject
                                                                                                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                        think about that

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                                                                                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                            • 23200
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                            Spin what? It happens, it's natural, it's always happened and it wasn't as bad either.... and Roosevelt still went on to serve two terms.

                                                                                                                            * shakes head *
                                                                                                                            So you're not arguing that it was the worse since the depression?
                                                                                                                            Kinda confusing way you answered that

                                                                                                                            Okay? You worked for them in his State, under his States laws which are different than your States, all around?

                                                                                                                            And how do you know he didn't get it already, maybe his issues fixed, paid out, and he went back to work for years... maybe it was hurt before or after he worked for them.

                                                                                                                            Maybe he didn't want to put up with the bullshit, paper work, or give a fuck and just said fuck you people I'm tired and took the easy way out?
                                                                                                                            Same union, teamsters, enough said, he was a moron, or are you going to defend Someone that robbed a bank?

                                                                                                                            Republicans aren't allowed to think outside the the box or have a different opinion, it's one way or the the wrong way with them, period!
                                                                                                                            The same could be said for Dem's that aren't allowed to think, period
                                                                                                                            getting them to agree is like herding cats
                                                                                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                            think about that

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                                                                                                                              • BFT3K
                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                                • 10764
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                Stick with the subject, we were talking about the healthcare law, not taxes

                                                                                                                                Love how when people lose an argument, they resort to changing the subject
                                                                                                                                Okay, let's stick to the subject.

                                                                                                                                What is the Republican plan to fix our broken healthcare system?

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                                                                                                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                    • 23200
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by PornoMonster
                                                                                                                                    A few states, and one I live in, just passed laws getting rid of "over time injuries"
                                                                                                                                    I think it is total BS, but both sides passed it here.
                                                                                                                                    You have to report the injury immediately when it happened, and if you can't, the over time could of been caused by a childhood injury or some shit they say.

                                                                                                                                    Just a FYI... As I live in one of the worse work comp states.
                                                                                                                                    most coke employee's are teamsters, he should have got it handled while working

                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                                                                                    that being said, can you tell the difference between coke and pepsi? I have a great pallet for food and beverages normally but i fail that blind test every single time!
                                                                                                                                    I drink rum, so like most rum drinkers, I like the taste of coke best, rum and pepsi tastes like shit
                                                                                                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                    think about that

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                                                                                                                                      • BFT3K
                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                                        • 10764
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                        Okay, let's stick to the subject.

                                                                                                                                        What is the Republican plan to fix our broken healthcare system?


                                                                                                                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

                                                                                                                                        Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say...

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                                                                                                                                          • nation-x
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                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                            • 5370
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by BFT3K


                                                                                                                                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

                                                                                                                                            Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say...
                                                                                                                                            whoever made the video is an idiot... that is a grasshopper

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                                                                                                                                              • BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                                                • 10764
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by nation-x
                                                                                                                                                whoever made the video is an idiot... that is a grasshopper
                                                                                                                                                Well, I never claimed to be an Entomologist



                                                                                                                                                Besides, it only says "Cricket Sound" which seems accurate enough.
                                                                                                                                                Last edited by BFT3K; 06-22-2011, 09:59 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                  • scarlettcontent
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                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                                    • 6031
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    poor guy .


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                                                                                                                                                      • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 13827
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                        So you're not arguing that it was the worse since the depression?
                                                                                                                                                        Kinda confusing way you answered that
                                                                                                                                                        I'm saying the depression was worse and that president went on to serve two terms.

                                                                                                                                                        Based off your direction, Obama will now serve two terms.


                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                        Same union, teamsters, enough said, he was a moron, or are you going to defend Someone that robbed a bank?
                                                                                                                                                        Different laws in different States change union/teamster laws, rules, employee rules, corps, etc in every aspect..... end of story!

                                                                                                                                                        You have no idea if he tried to get help first, you call him a moron with any knowledge of him and you wonder why someone might defend a man that stole $1 so he could get help?



                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                        The same could be said for Dem's that aren't allowed to think, period
                                                                                                                                                        getting them to agree is like herding cats
                                                                                                                                                        Wait... I thought you hated what the Dem's and Obama had done/was doing... how are they not thinking, period, and yet doing things, people support?

                                                                                                                                                        And it's still very much a fact that if a Republican steps out of party line, they're fucked.
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                                                                                                                                                          • Turf
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 1865
                                                                                                                                                            #89
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                                                                                                                                                              • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                I'm saying the depression was worse and that president went on to serve two terms.

                                                                                                                                                                Based off your direction, Obama will now serve two terms.
                                                                                                                                                                No I just said it was the worse shellacking since the depression, I never said anything about Obama losing his second term did I?



                                                                                                                                                                Different laws in different States change union/teamster laws, rules, employee rules, corps, etc in every aspect..... end of story!

                                                                                                                                                                You have no idea if he tried to get help first, you call him a moron with any knowledge of him and you wonder why someone might defend a man that stole $1 so he could get help?
                                                                                                                                                                And what exactly are those laws that keep him from getting WC?

                                                                                                                                                                Wait... I thought you hated what the Dem's and Obama had done/was doing... how are they not thinking, period, and yet doing things, people support?
                                                                                                                                                                they threw there party under the bus, last November proved that

                                                                                                                                                                And it's still very much a fact that if a Republican steps out of party line, they're fucked.
                                                                                                                                                                You never get me, see It's not that I hate the Dem's or the GOP, it's that I hate all those lying bastards, do I need to make that clear every time I post?
                                                                                                                                                                I hate the POTUS, has nothing to do with his party, it has to do with him being a bad leader.
                                                                                                                                                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                    • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                                    Okay, let's stick to the subject.

                                                                                                                                                                    What is the Republican plan to fix our broken healthcare system?
                                                                                                                                                                    LMAO, where did that come in? Weather they have a plan or not, I don't care
                                                                                                                                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                    think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                      • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                        • 13827
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                        No I just said it was the worse shellacking since the depression, I never said anything about Obama losing his second term did I?
                                                                                                                                                                        That's a matter of opinion... If you go through and look at actual history and see which seats were predicted to flip vs. those that were truly voted in, you can find many times throughout history where other Presidents got hammered far worse. The reason it didn't slide more was some seats aren't always up, others are guaranteed to stay the same and did for a very long time.

                                                                                                                                                                        The 2010 flip was expected to be BIGGER than it was, before Obama was President, really was only a few seats that were like, oh damn, we didn't expect that.


                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                        And what exactly are those laws that keep him from getting WC?
                                                                                                                                                                        Again, you assume he didn't get it and that he couldn't or didn't work again, clearly not needing WC.

                                                                                                                                                                        Btw, some States have laws that force it, others don't... just as one of like 10k differences between States.


                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                        they threw there party under the bus, last November proved that
                                                                                                                                                                        Okay....


                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                        You never get me, see It's not that I hate the Dem's or the GOP, it's that I hate all those lying bastards, do I need to make that clear every time I post?
                                                                                                                                                                        I hate the POTUS, has nothing to do with his party, it has to do with him being a bad leader.
                                                                                                                                                                        Correct, I don't get people that stab at the other party then say they hate both sides.

                                                                                                                                                                        Honestly, I believe the information and sources of information you have that actually cover what Obama has and hasn't done is very skewed making your own opinions about him misguided.

                                                                                                                                                                        We've talked about many things over the last couple of years, and many many many many many times over you've been shown what the truth is, what really happened, and the next week you will ignore the proof shown before you and continue on with your normal misguided rants. I'm not the only one to point this out either.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                            • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                            That's a matter of opinion... If you go through and look at actual history and see which seats were predicted to flip vs. those that were truly voted in, you can find many times throughout history where other Presidents got hammered far worse. The reason it didn't slide more was some seats aren't always up, others are guaranteed to stay the same and did for a very long time.

                                                                                                                                                                            The 2010 flip was expected to be BIGGER than it was, before Obama was President, really was only a few seats that were like, oh damn, we didn't expect that.
                                                                                                                                                                            It's still the biggest shellacking since the depression, no getting around that and thats all I stated, shows people are a little pissed at the way things are going, but the Tea Party could be ignored as well




                                                                                                                                                                            Again, you assume he didn't get it and that he couldn't or didn't work again, clearly not needing WC.

                                                                                                                                                                            Btw, some States have laws that force it, others don't... just as one of like 10k differences between States.
                                                                                                                                                                            NC has a pretty good Workman's Comp program, I looked it up, he has slipped disc's from working as a loader for Coca Cola, trust me in the fact that I know what that job is and that Workman's Comp will not question it, given time at the job and his age.



                                                                                                                                                                            Correct, I don't get people that stab at the other party then say they hate both sides.

                                                                                                                                                                            Honestly, I believe the information and sources of information you have that actually cover what Obama has and hasn't done is very skewed making your own opinions about him misguided.

                                                                                                                                                                            We've talked about many things over the last couple of years, and many many many many many times over you've been shown what the truth is, what really happened, and the next week you will ignore the proof shown before you and continue on with your normal misguided rants. I'm not the only one to point this out either.
                                                                                                                                                                            Misguided according to who? people have different views of the world around them, I never trusted Obama, he promised too much, then delivered what he could for brownie points. Without benefiting the country, your opinion is different.
                                                                                                                                                                            Seems a lot of people feel the same way I do, like the 53% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law, 49% Say Measure Bad For Country according to Rasmussen

                                                                                                                                                                            32% percent think the healthcare law will be good for the country, thats probably made up of the people that don't have healthcare right now. Funny how people react when they think they are getting something for free

                                                                                                                                                                            As far as hating both sides, the GOP went south when they got Bush and started getting the religious right involved. And I think they have no balls right now that they have control of one of the houses. Thats not what they promised and next term, I say throw them out.
                                                                                                                                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                            think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                              • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 13827
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                It's still the biggest shellacking since the depression, no getting around that and thats all I stated, shows people are a little pissed at the way things are going, but the Tea Party could be ignored as well
                                                                                                                                                                                I'm not sure why this is hard for you to understand... you can easily look it up, whatever you think the reason is or why, is completely backwards to reality.


                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                NC has a pretty good Workman's Comp program, I looked it up, he has slipped disc's from working as a loader for Coca Cola, trust me in the fact that I know what that job is and that Workman's Comp will not question it, given time at the job and his age.
                                                                                                                                                                                So you know the guy got hurt at work, meaning he failed to do anything about it, the union failed, the teamsters failed, his rep failed basically everything about this guy and everyone around a hurt man, failed... damn! OR he got that, got better, and has no reason to have it today.

                                                                                                                                                                                You can look up this useless information but you can't go look at the history of mid term elections, predictions and actual swing of seats and understand why 2010 was going to happen even if the best President ever was running the ship? Okay....



                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                Misguided according to who? people have different views of the world around them, I never trusted Obama, he promised too much, then delivered what he could for brownie points. Without benefiting the country, your opinion is different.
                                                                                                                                                                                Seems a lot of people feel the same way I do, like the 53% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law, 49% Say Measure Bad For Country according to Rasmussen
                                                                                                                                                                                You can find a split of opinion on any subject you select. That doesn't mean your not misguided on the information you have on the subject.

                                                                                                                                                                                Like we could still poll people and ask them about death panels and I'm sure over 50% will think the law has it in it... even though 100% were wrong and still are. Which is, something you once said it had.


                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                32% percent think the healthcare law will be good for the country, thats probably made up of the people that don't have healthcare right now. Funny how people react when they think they are getting something for free
                                                                                                                                                                                I have healthcare and I think it's a good thing. I personally know a shit ton of people in support of it. People know it's being paid for with taxes, no reason to put a lame spin on it.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                                                                                                    It's 42
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 18083
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Well if the Ryan Plan for Medicare passes (Paul Ryan (R-WI) ) and you are not yet 55 your Medicare benefits that you paid in will no longer be there as they are today ...

                                                                                                                                                                                    You will get a voucher check from the Social Security Administration to use to buy private insurance. How much do you think the government check will pay for?

                                                                                                                                                                                    There is your Republican Plan for healthcare (for retirees) ...

                                                                                                                                                                                    As for a healthcare plan for working age people they have one ? NO to anything on the table.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                        Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm not sure why this is hard for you to understand... you can easily look it up, whatever you think the reason is or why, is completely backwards to reality.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Obama called it a shellacking


                                                                                                                                                                                        So you know the guy got hurt at work, meaning he failed to do anything about it, the union failed, the teamsters failed, his rep failed basically everything about this guy and everyone around a hurt man, failed... damn! OR he got that, got better, and has no reason to have it today.
                                                                                                                                                                                        I know the job, the situation and the union, that more than makes me qualified to make a statement about it




                                                                                                                                                                                        You can find a split of opinion on any subject you select. That doesn't mean your not misguided on the information you have on the subject.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Like we could still poll people and ask them about death panels and I'm sure over 50% will think the law has it in it... even though 100% were wrong and still are. Which is, something you once said it had.
                                                                                                                                                                                        but we aren't talking about other subject, we are talking about the healthcare law



                                                                                                                                                                                        I have healthcare and I think it's a good thing. I personally know a shit ton of people in support of it.
                                                                                                                                                                                        I know a lot of people that are against it, we hang in different crowds probably
                                                                                                                                                                                        People know it's being paid for with taxes, no reason to put a lame spin on it.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Those would be the people that Obama said aren't paying taxes, right?
                                                                                                                                                                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                                        think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 13827
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                            Obama called it a shellacking
                                                                                                                                                                                            Lol... yeah he said something about other presidents taking the shellacking that he did. Democrats DID get defeated, that's what the word means when used correctly.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Which is VERY different than what you're saying. It doesn't mean people where tired of him/his policies or anything going on or healthcare, etc... a huge flip was predicted to happen, it did not happen because of the ideas you claim and Obama never said it did either.


                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                            I know the job, the situation and the union, that more than makes me qualified to make a statement about it
                                                                                                                                                                                            Okay... and that doesn't mean you know anything about what actually happened to him, what he did or didn't get or did or didn't go through... as I've pointed out over and over. You assume hes a moron, based on your limited experience, we got that.


                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                            but we aren't talking about other subject, we are talking about the healthcare law
                                                                                                                                                                                            Other subjects or healthcare, you still refuse to look at the truth.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Like, we can find all types of positive polls related to the healthcare law, I've seen both side posted here many times.

                                                                                                                                                                                            And death panels does have to do with healthcare and was an example of the bullshit coming out about it and the masses of people sucking it up, which has happened over and over and over with the healthcare bill.



                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                            I know a lot of people that are against it, we hang in different crowds probably


                                                                                                                                                                                            Those would be the people that Obama said aren't paying taxes, right?
                                                                                                                                                                                            Right... the point was to show not everyone is against it, as your attempt was doing.

                                                                                                                                                                                            The only people I know that don't pay taxes, ALL own a business and don't live in America. I don't think the healthcare bill covers them.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Do you now any homeless people? Personally I don't, but as well I don't mind them getting "free" healthcare, even if it's on my dime. Same goes with children... no taxes paid, but oh well.
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                                Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                                Lol... yeah he said something about other presidents taking the shellacking that he did. Democrats DID get defeated, that's what the word means when used correctly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Which is VERY different than what you're saying. It doesn't mean people where tired of him/his policies or anything going on or healthcare, etc... a huge flip was predicted to happen, it did not happen because of the ideas you claim and Obama never said it did either.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Just that he got a shellacking, that was it

                                                                                                                                                                                                Okay... and that doesn't mean you know anything about what actually happened to him, what he did or didn't get or did or didn't go through... as I've pointed out over and over. You assume hes a moron, based on your limited experience, we got that.
                                                                                                                                                                                                9 years? You concider that limited?

                                                                                                                                                                                                Other subjects or healthcare, you still refuse to look at the truth.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Like, we can find all types of positive polls related to the healthcare law, I've seen both side posted here many times.

                                                                                                                                                                                                And death panels does have to do with healthcare and was an example of the bullshit coming out about it and the masses of people sucking it up, which has happened over and over and over with the healthcare bill.
                                                                                                                                                                                                I trust Rasmussen, more aginst than for and the ones that want it, are getting something for free


                                                                                                                                                                                                Right... the point was to show not everyone is against it, as your attempt was doing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                The only people I know that don't pay taxes, ALL own a business and don't live in America. I don't think the healthcare bill covers them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Do you now any homeless people? Personally I don't, but as well I don't mind them getting "free" healthcare, even if it's on my dime. Same goes with children... no taxes paid, but oh well.
                                                                                                                                                                                                I didn't know homeless people get polled by rasmussen
                                                                                                                                                                                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                                                think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 30140
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                                    DF, Total failure on your part

                                                                                                                                                                                                    He said he worked for Coca Cola for 17 years and was suffering pain from slipped disc's. The guy then knows that Coca Cola gets sued all the time for Workman's comp and could and still can get it after working that long for that company. I know, I worked for Coca Cola for 9 years.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    To use this to bash the GOP is just a lame attempt as usual from you. Healthcare reform is needed, just not the one that Obama came up with
                                                                                                                                                                                                    VD, learn to read ...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    BTW, where did I 'bash ' the GOP and where am I saying I support OBAMA CARE ?
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • nation-x
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 5370
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                                        I trust Rasmussen
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yeah because Rasmussen was soooo right when they predicted that McCain/Palin would win in 2008...

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