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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #201
    Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
    I don't believe that because they'll never truly understand how they were conned, or admit. If there is any societal upheaval, a clear sign will first come from minorities. Why?- The vast majority of the middle class are white and most business owners are also white or ran by white people. Second, it would be hard to miss the mass deportation of 16 million illegals.

    Now - I'm not going to say this is a governmental conspiracy, but I am a certain the Gov knows and understands that educated white people are not going to stick their hands in a toilet unless it's their only option. Meaning, the government knows white people will rally with their own start-ups and try to make that work first. I'd be willing to bet this is what they're banking on to spark the economy currently.

    Total failure will be much different.

    Let's say it all crashes. There is not going to be riots in the streets like LA because there isn't anyone local to blame. There is not going to be mass protest because what are you going to protest about? - It happened. Besides, what most Americans can't see is homeland security has absorbed into law enforcement and apparently now the mailman. You don't actually think TSA's primary is looking for Muslim men do you? They are looking for signs of possible domestic terrorism. In short, societal upheaval starts from a spark and ends in an inferno and they'll have that spark extinguished instantly.
    The patroit act took so many of our freedoms away, now the cops don't even need a warrant to come in your house.
    Best to stay off the radar, that's the only safe thing any more
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that

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    • Vendzilla
      Biker Gnome
      • Mar 2004
      • 23200

      #202
      Originally posted by TheDoc
      He doesn't want to overhaul it, he wants to remove it all the way and have church and community educate your kids.

      I was born in Texas... Texans are proud people. It was it's own Country, has had it's own wars & heroes, it's the only State that can fly its flag equal with the American flag, and in theory it could split off and become it's own Country again.
      I visited, they had more texas flags than US flags flying



      Do the birds also work, generate revenue, sometimes open a small business, buy things, pay rent, do all birds use the system, and if so do they all suck it dry and never give back? That's some tricked out birds....

      Even when we didn't have any of those things... illegals still came. If we get rid of them, illegals will still come, and your taxes would still go up and you'll still have to press one and plenty of kids will still not speak english.
      It was a analogy, sorry you didn't get that, even BFT3K got that

      Let me guess? You watched the news and they had a big thing about him not getting congress approval and spewed off something about the war powers act, 30 days, blah blah blah, so you bought into it without every looking it up?

      This is exactly what Libya falls under.
      So if he says it's with the UN, that makes everything OK? Yeah that sounds right, NOT
      But he's really good at that sort of thing
      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
      think about that

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      • buzzard
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2002
        • 1276

        #203
        Originally posted by Vendzilla
        Best to stay off the radar, that's the only safe thing any more
        Best advice in the thread

        Get off the grid. And if you're not already, do it NOW.
        .

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        • TheDoc
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 13827

          #204
          Originally posted by Vendzilla
          I visited, they had more texas flags than US flags flying
          Aye.. they give newborns a Texas flag and a gun at birth.



          Originally posted by Vendzilla
          It was a analogy, sorry you didn't get that, even BFT3K got that
          ... clearly, and a bad one at that.



          Originally posted by Vendzilla
          So if he says it's with the UN, that makes everything OK? Yeah that sounds right, NOT
          But he's really good at that sort of thing
          So you're not going to read it, eh?

          The U.N. already had the troops, they decided to take action, not Obama. And the Charter, defines when and if they can take action, not Obama. And it's Congress that authorized the United Nations Participation Act, which allows all this to happen, again not Obama.

          Any more confused twists you wish to add in?
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          • buzzard
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2002
            • 1276

            #205
            Originally posted by TheDoc
            in theory it could split off and become it's own Country again.
            Texas should, seriously. Wouldn't be surprised if it happened soon.

            Send a message that we're tired of being lied to.
            .

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            • TheDoc
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 13827

              #206
              Originally posted by buzzard
              Texas should, seriously. Wouldn't be surprised if it happened soon.

              Send a message that we're tired of being lied to.
              .
              It's a theory because the act calls them a free independent state and the Constitution holds authority over Texas and the power to govern was given to the people. Nothing actually says they can split off... then again, nothing says they can't. If people take the power that was given to them, then they could restructure it differently... in theory.
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              • Vendzilla
                Biker Gnome
                • Mar 2004
                • 23200

                #207
                Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                Safe thing? wow, I thought you'd be the last person on this forum to say that. Matter of fact, it's time to stand up like the way our founding fathers did. This does not mean to go start a militia, but prepare yourself to resist. It won't be long before they try to strip the 2nd now that the 4th is gone.
                Somethings I can't say on open forum, but if push came to shove, I'm more ready than most. They are always attacking the 2nd , latest from California, those idiots are trying to ake BB gun manufacturers paint all BB guns a birhgt color, like yellow. They think BB guns should be treated like toys! Shows how little they know. I have a pellet rifle that is clearly no toy!

                http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...538e2420fc970b

                they are actually pushing this thru
                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                think about that

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                • Vendzilla
                  Biker Gnome
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23200

                  #208
                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                  Aye.. they give newborns a Texas flag and a gun at birth.





                  ... clearly, and a bad one at that.
                  I liked it, a lot of people thought the same way


                  So you're not going to read it, eh?

                  The U.N. already had the troops, they decided to take action, not Obama. And the Charter, defines when and if they can take action, not Obama. And it's Congress that authorized the United Nations Participation Act, which allows all this to happen, again not Obama.

                  Any more confused twists you wish to add in?
                  Why would I, I mean it sounds to me that we are just getting deeper and deeper over there when we need things done at home. I hate that the president doesn't think he should have to deal with the congress and senate. With this much war going on, he shouldn't have done that, this is just opinion. But many others feel the same way.
                  I understand he used a loop hole, I think there are too many of them, and I understand he's not the first president to do so, but that doesn't make it right......
                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                  think about that

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                  • DateDoc
                    Outside looking in.
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 14243

                    #209
                    Can you really trust this guy?

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                    • directfiesta
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 30135

                      #210
                      Pretty entertaining ....
                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                      • TheDoc
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 13827

                        #211
                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                        Why would I, I mean it sounds to me that we are just getting deeper and deeper over there when we need things done at home. I hate that the president doesn't think he should have to deal with the congress and senate. With this much war going on, he shouldn't have done that, this is just opinion. But many others feel the same way.
                        I understand he used a loop hole, I think there are too many of them, and I understand he's not the first president to do so, but that doesn't make it right......
                        Why would you read it? Really? I mean come the fuck on....

                        You don't read it, and then you spew stupid shit like this? How do I even respond?

                        Let me try... First, the president DOES know he has to deal with congress and the senate. I'm shocked you even said what you did, what a crazy fucking statement.

                        Second he didn't do anything, he didn't authorize anything, CONGRESS DID.

                        Third, Wow, do you ALL need to READ THE DAMN THING then.

                        Fourth, It's NOT a loop hole at all, not even a fraction or a tiny bit, it's AUTHORIZED by Congress.

                        Yes, it makes it 100% right, legal, and authorized.



                        Truly... why would you keep saying such stupid shit and not read the fucking thing? I mean really... this is beyond pathetic, truly, just so pathetic... a great example of why this country is truly so fucked.
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                        • Barefootsies
                          Choice is an Illusion
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 42635

                          #212
                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                          That shit was so nasty and racist that I wouldn't blame Obama for giving a big
                          fuck you finger to the country.
                          Should You Email Your Members?

                          Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                          Enough Said.

                          "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                          • Barefootsies
                            Choice is an Illusion
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 42635

                            #213
                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                            When Reagan took office, we had the cold war, he worked to end that by bankrupting the USSR.
                            .....and the U.S..


                            LINK

                            I am always amused how the Republican sheep cite Reagan, or Bush (as a business owner) when talking about financial health of this country. Comedy at it's finest.

                            Although, I do enjoy wig's posts handing out the ass whippings.
                            Last edited by Barefootsies; 06-16-2011, 08:17 AM.
                            Should You Email Your Members?

                            Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                            Enough Said.

                            "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                            • Vendzilla
                              Biker Gnome
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 23200

                              #214
                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                              .....and the U.S..


                              LINK

                              I am always amused how the Republican sheep cite Reagan, or Bush (as a business owner) when talking about financial health of this country. Comedy at it's finest.

                              Although, I do enjoy wig's posts handing out the ass whippings.
                              I notice that your chart doesn't have the present administration in it or shows how the GOP controlled the purse strings during Clinton's years.

                              That's very left wing of you
                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                              think about that

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                              • Vendzilla
                                Biker Gnome
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 23200

                                #215
                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                Why would you read it? Really? I mean come the fuck on....

                                You don't read it, and then you spew stupid shit like this? How do I even respond?

                                Let me try... First, the president DOES know he has to deal with congress and the senate. I'm shocked you even said what you did, what a crazy fucking statement.

                                Second he didn't do anything, he didn't authorize anything, CONGRESS DID.

                                Third, Wow, do you ALL need to READ THE DAMN THING then.

                                Fourth, It's NOT a loop hole at all, not even a fraction or a tiny bit, it's AUTHORIZED by Congress.

                                Yes, it makes it 100% right, legal, and authorized.



                                Truly... why would you keep saying such stupid shit and not read the fucking thing? I mean really... this is beyond pathetic, truly, just so pathetic... a great example of why this country is truly so fucked.
                                Why do you consider it stupid? That I have the opinion that a law was put into place to restrict the power of the president and it's written in a way that he can get around it?

                                I'm tired of sending troops to the middle east, do you think I'm the only one?
                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                think about that

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                                • Barefootsies
                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 42635

                                  #216
                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                  I notice that your chart doesn't have the present administration in it
                                  Oh I'm sorry. Did Obama complete his first term(s) yet?



                                  Right wing loons....
                                  Should You Email Your Members?

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                                  Enough Said.

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                                  • TheDoc
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 13827

                                    #217
                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                    Why do you consider it stupid? That I have the opinion that a law was put into place to restrict the power of the president and it's written in a way that he can get around it?

                                    I'm tired of sending troops to the middle east, do you think I'm the only one?
                                    Your opinion is based on false information, thus it is not an opinion, it's fantasy.

                                    Like your statement here "law was put into place to restrict the power of the president and it's written in a way that he can get around it"

                                    Again, your information is wrong creating an incorrect view point to draw an opinion from.

                                    Nothing in the war powers act allows the President to get around anything.
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                                    • marketsmart
                                      HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 20419

                                      #218
                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                      I notice that your chart doesn't have the present administration in it or shows how the GOP controlled the purse strings during Clinton's years.

                                      That's very left wing of you
                                      god dammit son, you cant be this ignorant..

                                      you do realize that the huge "surplus" under clinton was not really a surplus..

                                      http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

                                      so, since you are praising your Repub congress, you must be praising them for doing nothing to create a surplus that didnt exist..

                                      also, military spending was down i believe during the clinton admin..

                                      i cant wait for all you guys to get a republican in the house..

                                      then you will flip the script and go from blaming a democrat to making excuses for a republican..

                                      the sooner you face the fact that the whole system is fucked and actually believe it instead of saying you believe it, but then contradicting yourself with every post you make, the better off we will be....





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                                      • DaddyHalbucks
                                        A freakin' legend!
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 18975

                                        #219
                                        Originally posted by DateDoc
                                        What an odd thing for the President to say, "Michelle and the kids are wonderful in that if I said, 'You know, guys, I want to do something different,' they'd be fine. They're not invested in daddy being president or my husband being president. But they do believe in what we're doing."

                                        http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thetic...erm-presidency
                                        I'm glad they will be OK with the one term thing, I will be OK with it too.

                                        Boner Money

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                                        • Vendzilla
                                          Biker Gnome
                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 23200

                                          #220
                                          Originally posted by marketsmart
                                          god dammit son, you cant be this ignorant..

                                          you do realize that the huge "surplus" under clinton was not really a surplus..

                                          http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

                                          so, since you are praising your Repub congress, you must be praising them for doing nothing to create a surplus that didnt exist..

                                          also, military spending was down i believe during the clinton admin..

                                          i cant wait for all you guys to get a republican in the house..

                                          then you will flip the script and go from blaming a democrat to making excuses for a republican..

                                          the sooner you face the fact that the whole system is fucked and actually believe it instead of saying you believe it, but then contradicting yourself with every post you make, the better off we will be....





                                          .
                                          Not praising, just commenting, there is a difference

                                          the chart was brought up to show spending habits of the GOP vs the Dem's.

                                          I pointed out it's flawed

                                          It's based on presidents, not the overall power of the government

                                          Clinton was the president,but the house and senate were GOP

                                          And it's not showing the current administration
                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                          think about that

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                                          • Vendzilla
                                            Biker Gnome
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 23200

                                            #221
                                            Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                            Oh I'm sorry. Did Obama complete his first term(s) yet?



                                            Right wing loons....
                                            Actually, can't stand either side

                                            and your chart isn't big enough to show the last 5 years and therefore flawed, you would have to add another , what 5 trilion dollars?, which would make you alost double the height of the current chart
                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                            think about that

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                                            • TheDoc
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 13827

                                              #222
                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                              Not praising, just commenting, there is a difference

                                              the chart was brought up to show spending habits of the GOP vs the Dem's.

                                              I pointed out it's flawed

                                              It's based on presidents, not the overall power of the government

                                              Clinton was the president,but the house and senate were GOP

                                              And it's not showing the current administration
                                              The flaw has nothing to do with who is in power... it has to show bleed over from other administrations. Like Daddy Bush removed a major tax break, so tax revenue dropped while spending kept going up - while it was already going up from Reagan - so Daddy Bush's numbers look twice as bad as they really are.... sound's like something going on today.

                                              Or like under Clinton, the GOP had 100% nothing to do with it, they spent money, a growing amount, both did. The reason it looked so good was we took in more tax revenue from the economic boom - which neither Clinton nor the GOP created.

                                              Under the current admin, once you remove the bleed over spending from Bush that Obama had to dish out because Congress already signed trillions in bailouts... Obama's actual amount he directly created & spent is rater low, and dropping... If he actually ends the war, we'll move into a surplus numbers where tax dollars coming in are higher than money going out.
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                                              • GregE
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2004
                                                • 2704

                                                #223
                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                Actually, can't stand either side

                                                and your chart isn't big enough to show the last 5 years and therefore flawed, you would have to add another , what 5 trilion dollars?, which would make you alost double the height of the current chart
                                                The economy was circling the toilet bowl when Bush Jr. checked out.

                                                It's not exactly fair to compare Obama's subsequent emergency spending to the spending that preceded him.

                                                But don't let that stop you
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                                                • Vendzilla
                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 23200

                                                  #224
                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                  The flaw has nothing to do with who is in power... it has to show bleed over from other administrations. Like Daddy Bush removed a major tax break, so tax revenue dropped while spending kept going up - while it was already going up from Reagan - so Daddy Bush's numbers look twice as bad as they really are.... sound's like something going on today.

                                                  Or like under Clinton, the GOP had 100% nothing to do with it, they spent money, a growing amount, both did. The reason it looked so good was we took in more tax revenue from the economic boom - which neither Clinton nor the GOP created.

                                                  Under the current admin, once you remove the bleed over spending from Bush that Obama had to dish out because Congress already signed trillions in bailouts... Obama's actual amount he directly created & spent is rater low, and dropping... If he actually ends the war, we'll move into a surplus numbers where tax dollars coming in are higher than money going out.
                                                  Originally posted by GregE
                                                  The economy was circling the toilet bowl when Bush Jr. checked out.

                                                  It's not exactly fair to compare Obama's subsequent emergency spending to the spending that preceded him.

                                                  But don't let that stop you


                                                  Yeah, it's Bushes fault, that's the rally cry of the Democrats for 2012!!

                                                  The chart wasn't about the economy people, it was about the spending of the presidents.
                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                  think about that

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                                                  • directfiesta
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 30135

                                                    #225
                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                    Actually, can't stand either side

                                                    and your chart isn't big enough to show the last 5 years and therefore flawed, you would have to add another , what 5 trilion dollars?, which would make you alost double the height of the current chart
                                                    If you did not exist , you would need to be invented ....

                                                    BTW, what are your origins ??? You look from Pollack descent ... ???
                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                    • Vendzilla
                                                      Biker Gnome
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 23200

                                                      #226
                                                      Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                      If you did not exist , you would need to be invented ....

                                                      BTW, what are your origins ??? You look from Pollack descent ... ???
                                                      Do you ever have anything to say thats above a 3rd grade level?

                                                      But if you must insult me, Native American and French.

                                                      BTW, what's a Pollack? Something you invented?
                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                      think about that

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                                                      • GregE
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 2704

                                                        #227
                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                        Yeah, it's Bushes fault, that's the rally cry of the Democrats for 2012!!
                                                        So, you're saying that the economy was just honky-dory when the black guy took office


                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                        The chart wasn't about the economy people, it was about the spending of the presidents.
                                                        The economy is precisely what Obama (for better or worse) has been throwing money at these past few years.

                                                        It's not exactly an irrelevant subject.

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                                                        • TheDoc
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 13827

                                                          #228
                                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                          Yeah, it's Bushes fault, that's the rally cry of the Democrats for 2012!!

                                                          The chart wasn't about the economy people, it was about the spending of the presidents.
                                                          I didn't blame anyone for anything, I stated facts.

                                                          I guess we'll have to wait until the debates. I did hear the GOP blame Obama for every single thing going on in the economy, even if it had nothing to do with him, ever... they still blame him.

                                                          No... the chart is how much total spending was done, under a President, not how much they each actually spent.
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                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 23200

                                                            #229
                                                            Originally posted by GregE
                                                            So, you're saying that the economy was just honky-dory when the black guy took office




                                                            The economy is precisely what Obama (for better or worse) has been throwing money at these past few years.

                                                            It's not exactly an irrelevant subject.
                                                            I'm sorry, where did I blame anyone?
                                                            Are you pulling these facts from some dark place?
                                                            I only said it didn't show the last 5 years, and it doesn't, or do you have magical powers that see whats not there?
                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                            think about that

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                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 23200

                                                              #230
                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                              I didn't blame anyone for anything, I stated facts.

                                                              I guess we'll have to wait until the debates. I did hear the GOP blame Obama for every single thing going on in the economy, even if it had nothing to do with him, ever... they still blame him.

                                                              No... the chart is how much total spending was done, under a President, not how much they each actually spent.
                                                              I agree with you, it's not about fixing anything, it's about blame, the dems do it just as well as the GOP, pull up a chair, get a beer and some popcorn and realize just how funny it's become.

                                                              The GOP will blame the ecomony on the Dems and the Dems will blame it on Bush, thats how they ALL do it now
                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                              think about that

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                                                              • marketsmart
                                                                HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                • 20419

                                                                #231
                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                Yeah, it's Bushes fault, that's the rally cry of the Democrats for 2012!!

                                                                The chart wasn't about the economy people, it was about the spending of the presidents.
                                                                here's the problem.. the cold war spending during Reagan made the military complex so much money that they developed a thirst for the cash.. Since Reagan, we never really cut military spending significantly.. and when joe public complains about military spending during peacetime, we have to go find a war to fight to justify the spending. or allow a 9/11 to happen..

                                                                meanwhile, the other guys, like the banks and pharma wanted to get their piece of the pie, so congress started making sure they were fed as well..

                                                                and of course we cant forget about the uneducated and poor who if things get bad enough will be the ones to revolt, so we keep handing out their govt cheese to keep them quiet..

                                                                all this is happening and the middle class is carrying the burden of both the poor and super rich.. paying for the poor while getting robbed from the super rich..

                                                                but the middle class have house payments and car payments and college tuition, so they have no time to protest or demand change, so everything remains status quo..

                                                                you guys should look at how much money congressman make these days and maybe you will understand that govt has become about making money, not serving the people..




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                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                  • 23200

                                                                  #232
                                                                  Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                  here's the problem.. the cold war spending during Reagan made the military complex so much money that they developed a thirst for the cash.. Since Reagan, we never really cut military spending significantly.. and when joe public complains about military spending during peacetime, we have to go find a war to fight to justify the spending. or allow a 9/11 to happen..

                                                                  meanwhile, the other guys, like the banks and pharma wanted to get their piece of the pie, so congress started making sure they were fed as well..

                                                                  and of course we cant forget about the uneducated and poor who if things get bad enough will be the ones to revolt, so we keep handing out their govt cheese to keep them quiet..

                                                                  all this is happening and the middle class is carrying the burden of both the poor and super rich.. paying for the poor while getting robbed from the super rich..

                                                                  but the middle class have house payments and car payments and college tuition, so they have no time to protest or demand change, so everything remains status quo..

                                                                  you guys should look at how much money congressman make these days and maybe you will understand that govt has become about making money, not serving the people..




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                                                                  No argument here
                                                                  When the Cold war was over, which when you consider how many ICBMs we had pointed at us was a good thing to end, the government wanted another conflict, because that's where they are the most powerful. So one guy gets some other guys to fly an airbus into a building and we go on a spending spree. Our government hates peace, no profit in it.
                                                                  People get pissed at the guy that went to war, so they elected the other guy that ended up expanding the war.
                                                                  A war we really don't need and many don't want. Middle class is disappearing because of things like NAFTA where a country like China with major human rights violations can get a top trade status.

                                                                  LOL and some people are more concerned about us making guns illegal, the politician's are robbing us blind every day
                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                  think about that

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                                                                  • bushwacker
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                    • 2817

                                                                    #233
                                                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                    .....and the U.S..


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                                                                    I am always amused how the Republican sheep cite Reagan, or Bush (as a business owner) when talking about financial health of this country. Comedy at it's finest.

                                                                    Although, I do enjoy wig's posts handing out the ass whippings.
                                                                    Wig lays the smack down everytime he pops into a thread. Best entertainment on GFY.

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                                                                    • uno
                                                                      RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 18450

                                                                      #234
                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                      The flaw has nothing to do with who is in power... it has to show bleed over from other administrations. Like Daddy Bush removed a major tax break, so tax revenue dropped while spending kept going up - while it was already going up from Reagan - so Daddy Bush's numbers look twice as bad as they really are.... sound's like something going on today.

                                                                      Or like under Clinton, the GOP had 100% nothing to do with it, they spent money, a growing amount, both did. The reason it looked so good was we took in more tax revenue from the economic boom - which neither Clinton nor the GOP created.

                                                                      Under the current admin, once you remove the bleed over spending from Bush that Obama had to dish out because Congress already signed trillions in bailouts... Obama's actual amount he directly created & spent is rater low, and dropping... If he actually ends the war, we'll move into a surplus numbers where tax dollars coming in are higher than money going out.
                                                                      Don't forget actually putting the wars on the books.
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                                                                      • uno
                                                                        RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 18450

                                                                        #235
                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                        No argument here
                                                                        When the Cold war was over, which when you consider how many ICBMs we had pointed at us was a good thing to end, the government wanted another conflict, because that's where they are the most powerful. So one guy gets some other guys to fly an airbus into a building and we go on a spending spree. Our government hates peace, no profit in it.
                                                                        People get pissed at the guy that went to war, so they elected the other guy that ended up expanding the war.
                                                                        A war we really don't need and many don't want. Middle class is disappearing because of things like NAFTA where a country like China with major human rights violations can get a top trade status.
                                                                        Let's play the Vendzilla game. How many factual inaccuracies can you find in the above statement? I count at least 6, but feel free to point them out and find more!
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                                                                        • mountainmiester
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                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 509

                                                                          #236
                                                                          Seemingly I am confused as I had been under the understanding that it is Congress that is responsible for the approval of all budgets and spending.

                                                                          all those years of college for nut'n.
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                                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                            • 23200

                                                                            #237
                                                                            Originally posted by uno
                                                                            Let's play the Vendzilla game. How many factual inaccuracies can you find in the above statement? I count at least 6, but feel free to point them out and find more!

                                                                            I love that you are to timid to point out what you feel is wrong.

                                                                            Lose your balls somewhere?
                                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                            think about that

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                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 23200

                                                                              #238
                                                                              Originally posted by mountainmiester
                                                                              Seemingly I am confused as I had been under the understanding that it is Congress that is responsible for the approval of all budgets and spending.

                                                                              all those years of college for nut'n.
                                                                              Yep, the chart stopped at 06 when the democrats took over the house and senate, yet the chart was used to highlight GOP spending
                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                              think about that

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                                                                              • uno
                                                                                RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                • 18450

                                                                                #239
                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                I love that you are to timid to point out what you feel is wrong.

                                                                                Lose your balls somewhere?
                                                                                I'm never timid. It's a game, silly.
                                                                                -uno
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                                                                                • BFT3K
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                                                  • 10764

                                                                                  #240

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