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  • TripleXPrint
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2007
    • 983
    #1

    Would you hire this guy?

    I put an ad on Craigslist for a PHP/MySQl developer. I waded through a shitload of bullshit and found a local guy that meets all my requirements. Great portfolio and is very proficient in what I need, but...

    I searched online and he's been arrested twice. Once was back in 1994 for Grand Theft and the other is from this year for failure to pay child support. He's unemployed and obviously can't get a job that pays him commensurate with his skills because of his felony record. I'm no way excusing that he shouldn't have taken care of his kids, but with a record, they make it hard.

    I called him back to let him know I found his records but still wanted him to come in for an interview. Would you hire him if he met all your requirements but still had the record?
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      • Apr 2010
      • 9931
      #2
      Hire him.

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        • Deej
          I make pixels work
          • Jun 2005
          • 24386
          #3
          If he can get the job done then just make sure you cover your bases on access until hes more trusted.

          Cant kick a guy in the balls more for his past especially if you wade and wade and he meets the reqs...

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            • Brujah
              Beer Money Baron
              • Jan 2001
              • 22157
              #4
              No. Cancel the interview and hire someone else.

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                • NALEM
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3165
                  #5
                  Before you do hire him, do what Deej wrote, limit his access and ...

                  ask him how he plans to address the child support issue. If he continues to not pay, even after getting work from you, it is likely the county will come around and place a wage garnishment. If his pay is cut, he might just walk away from you. Look him in the eye, and see how he responds. Good luck!
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                    • d-null
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                      • Apr 2007
                      • 13724
                      #6
                      1994 was a long time ago

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                        • lagcam
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 2890
                          #7
                          I wouldn't have told him what I had found out prior to the interview and would have given him the chance to tell me if there was something I should know.

                          Now he may just be coming to case the joint of the guy been "looking him up on the internet"........
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                            • Kelli58
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2256
                              #8
                              100% hell no. A programmer can really do some serious damage if he isn't someone who you can trust. He's had not one, but two different serious issues with the law. Clearly this guy is a shady, POS - you don't need to bring someone like that into your life.
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                                • marlboroack
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jul 2010
                                  • 9327
                                  #9
                                  Hire me instead

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                                    • xholly
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2009
                                      • 817
                                      #10
                                      dont be a cunt and give the guy a job. also what he does with his money earned has nothing to do with you.

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                                        • L-Pink
                                          working on my tan
                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 39151
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by xholly
                                          also what he does with his money earned has nothing to do with you.
                                          Except for the extra work, expense, liability in making the court ordered child support deductions and payments required of any employer in that situation.


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                                            • marcop
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 4150
                                              #12
                                              He was arrested in '94 for Grand Theft... but was he convicted? Merely being arrested means next to nothing--cops and DA's make mistakes all the time.

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                                                • Spunky
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                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                  • 133986
                                                  #13
                                                  I'd pass on this thug,can't trust criminals

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                                                    • CYF
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                                                      • Mar 2009
                                                      • 10973
                                                      #14
                                                      1994 was a LONG time ago.

                                                      See what impression you get at the interview.
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                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                          • 20419
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Spunky
                                                          I'd pass on this thug,can't trust criminals
                                                          i once gave a shot to an ex methamphetamine manufacturer who spent 5 years in jail for his crimes..

                                                          he was the hardest working most honest employee i ever had..

                                                          go figure..




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                                                            • cooldude7
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2009
                                                              • 4306
                                                              #16
                                                              in case of coding , nope.

                                                              programmers/developers are smart and he has crime history , now do the math.

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                                                                • Peter Romero
                                                                  Long time no happy ending
                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 10602
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Remember back before the internet that guy said: "Let he who is without sin, may he cast the first stone" - I'm pretty sure his name was Jesus.


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                                                                    • RyuLion
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                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 32369
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by CYF
                                                                      1994 was a LONG time ago.

                                                                      See what impression you get at the interview.

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                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                          • 32195
                                                                          #19
                                                                          His convictions don't have anything to do with the nature of the job. There's also no moral turpitude issues. I'd give him a chance. Besides, Canada, Australia, America etc is the land of second and third and fourth chances. Leave all that stigma BS to the Third World.

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                                                                            • blackmonsters
                                                                              Making PHP work
                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 20974
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by TripleXPrint
                                                                              I put an ad on Craigslist for a PHP/MySQl developer. I waded through a shitload of bullshit and found a local guy that meets all my requirements. Great portfolio and is very proficient in what I need, but...

                                                                              I searched online and he's been arrested twice. Once was back in 1994 for Grand Theft and the other is from this year for failure to pay child support. He's unemployed and obviously can't get a job that pays him commensurate with his skills because of his felony record. I'm no way excusing that he shouldn't have taken care of his kids, but with a record, they make it hard.

                                                                              I called him back to let him know I found his records but still wanted him to come in for an interview. Would you hire him if he met all your requirements but still had the record?
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                                                                                • blackmonsters
                                                                                  Making PHP work
                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 20974
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by marcop
                                                                                  He was arrested in '94 for Grand Theft... but was he convicted? Merely being arrested means next to nothing--cops and DA's make mistakes all the time.
                                                                                  Good point!

                                                                                  Many people have been wrongly arrested.
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                                                                                    • L-Pink
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                                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                                      • 39151
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                      You make porn.



                                                                                      Hire him. Thread closed

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                                                                                        • SykkBoy
                                                                                          Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                          • 19969
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Do you know how many felons there are in this industry already?

                                                                                          He was arrested 26 years ago...if he's been clean this long, chances are he's probably learned from it. Since that happened so long ago, he was probably in his late teens. Should be pay for the rest of his life for something he did when he was a teen?

                                                                                          The child support thing...um, if he's without a job, how is he going to pay his support? Maybe he needs the job to pay his child support.

                                                                                          Give the guy a shot. Just give him little bits to start with and at least give him a chance to earn the position.

                                                                                          Or hey, go after a guy who has no criminal record, but might be a shitty programmer who will fuck you over with his lack of competency.
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                                                                                            • Twoface31
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2006
                                                                                              • 2746
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              if you think he's the guy you need well hire him

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                                                                                                • moeloubani
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2007
                                                                                                  • 4235
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  grand theft auto is a pretty serious crime...maybe he got caught up with a bad girlfriend or something? sometimes what drives people to do stupid things are the situations and not the people themselves..talk to him if his portfolio is that good and make your decision based on why he was charged with those things and the circumstances that led to it

                                                                                                  when i think grand theft auto i think of a high speed chase, cocaine in the seats, bullets flying and helicopters hovering...but it maybe (probably?) was nothing like that

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                                                                                                    • Peter Romero
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                      • 10602
                                                                                                      #26
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                                                                                                        • Anal Hobbit
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                          • 2308
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Ask him if he's black?

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                                                                                                            • leg4
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                              • 4429
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              He's still hire-able.

                                                                                                              Bring him in and feel him out.
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                                                                                                                • Grisey
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                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                  • 1805
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SykkBoy
                                                                                                                  Do you know how many felons there are in this industry already?

                                                                                                                  He was arrested 26 years ago...if he's been clean this long, chances are he's probably learned from it. Since that happened so long ago, he was probably in his late teens. Should be pay for the rest of his life for something he did when he was a teen?

                                                                                                                  The child support thing...um, if he's without a job, how is he going to pay his support? Maybe he needs the job to pay his child support.

                                                                                                                  Give the guy a shot. Just give him little bits to start with and at least give him a chance to earn the position.

                                                                                                                  Or hey, go after a guy who has no criminal record, but might be a shitty programmer who will fuck you over with his lack of competency.
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                                                                                                                      • 63151
                                                                                                                      #30
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                                                                                                                        • blonda80
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                                                                                                                            • SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN
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                                                                                                                              • Mar 2011
                                                                                                                              • 1100
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Peter Romero
                                                                                                                              Remember back before the internet that guy said: "Let he who is without sin, may he cast the first stone" - I'm pretty sure his name was Jesus.
                                                                                                                              I agree.. Hire him and give him a chance.

                                                                                                                              His family business is not your business.

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                                                                                                                                • HerPimp
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                  • 1197
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  When a person is desperate they are not themselves. I think the child support arrest is a bigger deal over the grand theft auto. Everyone knows how to act nice and many people know how to work it to get the job.

                                                                                                                                  Do not meet with him, cancel and tell him you hired another person.

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                                                                                                                                    • Pornopat
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                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 10598
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      You allready invited him to the job interview even after finding out so you should really let it depend on how well the job interview goes.
                                                                                                                                      Try to keep an open mind.
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                                                                                                                                        • BigMemo
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                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2008
                                                                                                                                          • 4460
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          can't trust criminals
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                                                                                                                                            • Phoenix
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                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 35475
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              interview him and see if you guys can work effectively together

                                                                                                                                              cover yourself until you know you can trust him, but you would do that with anyone anyway
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                                                                                                                                                • V_RocKs
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                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 32449
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  He has already had second chances...

                                                                                                                                                  When you get that low you need to grab the boot straps and take it...

                                                                                                                                                  I definitely would NOT hire him no matter how nice he seems. He is a player and he will play you. He obviously prefers to get things easy instead of doing the work. For all you know he is the "smart guy" for a crime syndicate and they are looking for a sucker to bleed money out of.

                                                                                                                                                  I actually know a guy like this and he keeps asking me for work. I keep letting him know he should have made better choices.

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                                                                                                                                                    • seeandsee
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
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                                                                                                                                                          • 67373
                                                                                                                                                          #39
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                                                                                                                                                            • ottopottomouse
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2010
                                                                                                                                                              • 13177
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by d-null
                                                                                                                                                              1994 was a long time ago
                                                                                                                                                              +1

                                                                                                                                                              Grand Theft is a bit vague.
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                                                                                                                                                                • opusx312
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2011
                                                                                                                                                                  • 87
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  If the interview went well i'd give him a shot. I'v worked with ex-cons before and for the post part it all worked out.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Michael O
                                                                                                                                                                      More Cowbell
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 10607
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TripleXPrint
                                                                                                                                                                      I put an ad on Craigslist for a PHP/MySQl developer. I waded through a shitload of bullshit and found a local guy that meets all my requirements. Great portfolio and is very proficient in what I need, but...

                                                                                                                                                                      I searched online and he's been arrested twice. Once was back in 1994 for Grand Theft and the other is from this year for failure to pay child support. He's unemployed and obviously can't get a job that pays him commensurate with his skills because of his felony record. I'm no way excusing that he shouldn't have taken care of his kids, but with a record, they make it hard.

                                                                                                                                                                      I called him back to let him know I found his records but still wanted him to come in for an interview. Would you hire him if he met all your requirements but still had the record?

                                                                                                                                                                      Depends on his age if he were 16-20 on his 1994 arrest then he was just a stupid young guy. Failure to make child support well if he don't have the money then he can not pay and looking for work on Craigslist shows he did not have the money to pay!
                                                                                                                                                                      Give him a chance.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Michael O
                                                                                                                                                                          More Cowbell
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 10607
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_theft

                                                                                                                                                                          So stealing something worth $200 he would risk the charge.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 94735
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Judge for youself ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                • vdbucks
                                                                                                                                                                                  Monger Cash
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 2773
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Tough crowd... seriously.

                                                                                                                                                                                  As others said, 1994 was an ancient time ago, and child support, well.. not to make excuses but it's not some big bad malicious crime. If the guy can't find a job that pays enough to support himself and pay his child support, what's he to do? Of course, he could just be a lazy bum, but he could also be a generally decent guy with a semi bad past looking to catch a break.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I wouldn't go in to the interview with any bias feelings or w/e.. if he has the skills, try him out. I'd hope you'd protect your stuff from any new guy until you build that trust - and ALWAYS leave a back door because you never really can trust anyone - so I wouldn't treat him any different than any other person who came applying for the job.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Treat a person like a thief, he will steal.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 22838
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Go with your own instinct, as much as I love gfy I do not think you should use the info given here to make your final decision.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • PR_Glen
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 9058
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by NALEM
                                                                                                                                                                                          Before you do hire him, do what Deej wrote, limit his access and ...

                                                                                                                                                                                          ask him how he plans to address the child support issue. If he continues to not pay, even after getting work from you, it is likely the county will come around and place a wage garnishment. If his pay is cut, he might just walk away from you. Look him in the eye, and see how he responds. Good luck!
                                                                                                                                                                                          pardon me? how is that any of an employers fuckin business? record or not...

                                                                                                                                                                                          for all you know his wife/ex gf has been jerking them around or is an addict trying to get drug money..

                                                                                                                                                                                          if he can do the job hire him, if he seems honest enough he will probably be more loyal than any other employee you hire for the same price because your the one who gave him a chance in spite of all that...
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Miz_Wright
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              There are people who are shady without records, too. Do you wanna be the guy who judges an applicant based on what he got caught for, or the guy that gives someone a chance? It's always possible that another applicant has done much worse stuff - but just never managed to get busted. Embezzlers don't usually have a record, after all.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 47882
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  a programmer that likes to steal shit.... what could go wrong?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Markul
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 12403
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Kelli58
                                                                                                                                                                                                      100% hell no. A programmer can really do some serious damage if he isn't someone who you can trust. He's had not one, but two different serious issues with the law. Clearly this guy is a shady, POS - you don't need to bring someone like that into your life.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not paying child support is not a serious issue with the law imo. At all.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think you need to just talk to him about it, especially if he's local.
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