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06-06-2011, 09:45 PM

Are you one of those British kids that likes to get loaded on booze (such a lame drug) and then fight.

setup line for the master image smiths around here to insert a perfect image

Lets all jump into the mosh pit. Cmon Choker ya old bastard trolls, all of us... lets RUMBLE.
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06-06-2011, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by WarChild

I followed the links in question myself 3 times. All 3 times I got hung up at the loading chat window and nobody ever appeared. Of course I just closed the site. Who wouldn't?

Yep, some shit saying chat loading but it never does? But according to the great Frisky there's nothing wrong with his site. I clicked 10 times, got hung up 3 times, got a model live 5 times and twice got a model in private already. 50% of the time I got what I was supposed to get, a random online now model in free teaser chat.

ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o
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06-06-2011, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Vjo

Are you one of those British kids that likes to get loaded on booze (such a lame drug) and then fight.

setup line for the master image smiths around here to insert a perfect image

Lets all jump into the mosh pit. Cmon Choker ya old bastard trolls, all of us... lets RUMBLE.

Sure, I'll book the transatlantic flight now. LOL

ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o
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06-06-2011, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Choker

Yep, some shit saying chat loading but it never does? But according to the great Frisky there's nothing wrong with his site. I clicked 10 times, got hung up 3 times, got a model live 5 times and twice got a model in private already. 50% of the time I got what I was supposed to get, a random online now model in free teaser chat.

Is that his fault or Streammates for how they handle traffic to their whitelabels? I've been looking for a good cam sponsor to use to get into promoting cams but I want the landing page to ALWAYS be a live model on cam with audio. Maybe that just isn't availabe 100% of the time? Idk..

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06-06-2011, 09:53 PM

OK back on track but leave Choker's age out of this. That is the only thing that actually bothers me.

Fuck it is a drag getting old in the adult biz.

I know when you are 20, 40 is ancient. Luckily I am not 50 yet

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06-06-2011, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Vjo

OK back on track but leave Choker's age out of this. That is the only thing that actually bothers me.

Fuck it is a drag getting old in the adult biz.

I know when you are 20, 40 is ancient. Luckily I am not 50 yet

Age is just a number.

My mother acts younger than I am.

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06-06-2011, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by Choker

Sure, I'll book the transatlantic flight now. LOL

LOL This thread needed a laugh.

My god, a thread goes from Sparrow doing a test with 5 brokers to a.. mess.

Fact is all skim is about the same and yes who cares if they trade it around. It is their traffic to do what they want and build sites how they want ect.

skim is skim .. it is a tough nut that can be cracked but ya got to work at it.

If a popunder or a skimmed click is a substantially better site than the orig parent site, then maybe that site wont do so bad. Never above 1 min on site time but still enough to make a small profit.

Work on your sites until they are finer than a babies ass then maybe you can have a shot at converting skim. Because if you can you are then in control.

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06-06-2011, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by Vjo

skim is skim ..

Yes skim is skim but if the page is setup correctly you can skim traffic in an extremely targeted and productive way.

Buying teen traffic and receiving hits from the granny or mature page is absolutely unacceptable.

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06-06-2011, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by lagcam

My cliffnotes to this point:

Frisky's intention was to buy traffic from Choker and then claim it was crap. Choker helped him do this (God knows why) by selling him crap traffic. In defending why said traffic was crap, Choker succeeded in drawing attention to the fact that Frisky was omitting some stats but also when responding to questions from others cast serious doubts on the quality of not only his own traffic, but also that of everybody else who sells traffic.

..and thats where i stopped. i wanted the facts about traffic broker business practices and that need was satisfied. all the name calling and slander is a waste of time.

if making money is not your top priority then u should never hit the reply button because you are wasting our time. if u are a webmaster making some actual money, then by all means write whatever the fuck you want.

however the good ones don't have gfy on auto refresh. anybody who replies to more than a dozen threads a day on gfy is having money problems. they either have none or have too much (Shap).

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06-06-2011, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Jakez

Yes skim is skim but if the page is setup correctly you can skim traffic in an extremely targeted and productive way.

Buying teen traffic and receiving hits from the granny or mature page is absolutely unacceptable.

I hear ya. That could help a lot and real good point.

Noone has addressed why there is 5 times fewer buyers and 8 times more traffic in some niches or types compared to 1 1/2 years ago (among most skim brokers) and why lowering price to allow more profitability (just a tad) would not sell more hits and be win-win.

Lets say a broker has 350,000 hits in a type of traffic (maybe high prod US only) and only sells 80,000 (per day). How is it benefitting the broker as the other 270,000 clicks are going back to a site owned by the orig seller. Click not sold.

But maybe that is not for me to know.

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06-06-2011, 10:43 PM

In my book Choker is good people, even if it was hard getting my sites approved. Now, Choker, can I use some easier method to get you cash from Aussie Land to you ?
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06-06-2011, 10:45 PM

Best gif ever (courtesy of Martinsc)

I actually have a bag of chips right now. But I always get to these threads too late at night. (US time)

Lets face it, you put the US people to bed and everything screams to a halt.

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06-06-2011, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by Vjo

I hear ya. That could help a lot and real good point.

Noone has addressed why there is 5 times fewer buyers and 8 times more traffic in some niches or types compared to 1 1/2 years ago (among most skim brokers) and why lowering price to allow more profitability (just a tad) would not sell more hits and be win-win.

Lets say a broker has 350,000 hits in a type of traffic (maybe high prod US only) and only sells 80,000 (per day). How is it benefitting the broker as the other 270,000 clicks are going back to a site owned by the orig seller. Click not sold.

But maybe that is not for me to know.

Where does it say there are less traffic buyers around and more traffic to buy? Or that the leftover traffic is going back to the traffic sellers?

To answer anyways:
Maybe (<-) since times are tough lately the available traffic is being squeezed more and more first for what it's worth by brokers and the leftovers value is decreasing more and more.

Anyway, Choker said that he has no problem selling out the traffic. So someone must be buying it. It's pretty obvious the reason he says to send it to dating and cams and not paysites is because dating and cams are doing well despite the quality of traffic, which is probably why those types are his biggest buyers. I only wish he would filter it better or find publishers with quality sites so that the traffic would work with paysites and whatnot and he could charge more for it, no one could say anything bad about it, and he wouldn't have to explain all the time why it doesn't work with certain types of sites.

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06-06-2011, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

In my book Choker is good people, even if it was hard getting my sites approved. Now, Choker, can I use some easier method to get you cash from Aussie Land to you ?

Ya know Choker has that "must have content" rule. Choker is like Sargento cheese from Wisconsin. He is "very, very persnickety"

Choker, if you can bend that rule for me, (you are the only one who has it) I would submit a fantabulous site. But I hate rejection. Especially by Choker. Anyone else. But I can NOT be rejected by Choker.

I am old school. I havnt hosted a pic or vid in ages. LOL

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06-06-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Jakez

Where does it say there are less traffic buyers around and more traffic to buy? Or that the leftover traffic is going back to the traffic sellers?

To answer anyways:
Maybe (<-) since times are tough lately the available traffic is being squeezed more and more first for what it's worth by brokers and the leftovers value is decreasing more and more.

Anyway, Choker said that he has no problem selling out the traffic. So someone must be buying it. It's pretty obvious the reason he says to send it to dating and cams and not paysites is because dating and cams are doing well despite the quality of traffic, which is probably why those types are his biggest buyers. I only wish he would filter it better or find publishers with quality sites so that the traffic would work with paysites and whatnot and he could charge more for it, no one could say anything bad about it, and he wouldn't have to explain all the time why it doesn't work with certain types of sites.

In answer to your q. I hate to name the broker but who is the biggest broker of skim In "no refer" for example there used to be 40 buyers, (1 to 1 1/2 years ago) now there is like 5-10.

Go look. This broker tells you how many buyers per niche/type. Same for No Cookie. US High Prod. Tranny.

Across the board there are def way less buyers and way more traffic available.

Why? I would think because many guys tried and many failed to make a profit. So why not lower price.

I doubt we will get a straight answer on this Jakez but I just like to mention it to the brokers. Who knows.

The board is full of reps trying to sell skim. Skim is not selling but they refuse to lower price. If price were lowered 25% I would buy way more (skim) traffic than I do.

Maybe Choker is selling all his but he is way smaller than the others from what I can see.

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