Messin' around with PHP Frameworks...

yeah, this shit is ridiculous. It kinda seems like a whole new puzzle trying to put these different ways of doing the same thing together.

I took a look at CI and Yii. CI seemed less complicated, but then Yii seemed more powerful. Common Factor: I don't think I could do shit without the tutorials :-\

I dunno. Maybe I just gotta pick one, stick with it. But it seems more complicated than a standard functions.php full of functions and a quick reference to it in your index.php using standard php.

I'm no pro, by any means, but I've spent the last few days stuck on tutorials and reading reading reading and trying to code something using the MVC methods in those 2 frameworks, and even though I'm just a novice php guy, I could have significantly coded more than I did on those frameworks.

I fail. :-(

and the NetTuts are deprecated now it seems when using the newest CI. Which brings about concern, are they going to change everything on every release. Seems counter-productive for a system that claims to increase productivity.

Personally, I wouldn't even bother with any of those frameworks, as many of them are bloated pieces of shit, and are only going to confuse you. For example, instead of telling you to learn simple SQL queries, they'll tell you an SQL query should look like:

Or some shit like that. Not sure what framework that is from, but it's from one of the popular ones. Why someone would decide that's a good idea is beyond me.

You're best off just writing your own framework from scratch. Can't find the one tutorial I really liked, but just Google writing your own simple MVC framework. Look into mod_rewrite, how it works, and start learning from there. It's honestly not that difficult, and definitely nowhere near as difficult as many of the "professional" tutorial writers make it out to be.

PS. While learning, make sure you're solving a problem. Don't just try to learn everything like you would history, for example. Pick a problem, and learn how to solve it. Then pick another problem, and learn how to solve that, and so on.

If you control the environment skip PHP frameworks and go with Ruby on Rails, they just don't compare.

NetBeans works great but you have to have alot of RAM (I have 8GB).

vim has pretty neato syntax highlighting.