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  • mikeyddddd
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    • Mar 2003
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    #51

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      • boneprone
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        • Jan 2001
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        #52
        Originally posted by abyss_al
        if you're gonna keep it for a long time and use a lot of the features, mess with different lenses, etc.. I would go with canon slr or nikon slr.. you will have much more accessories to go with (lenses, filters, etc)... pref canon - their navi is a lot easier to use and they are great cameras.. i personally do not sony cameras at all

        How bout the Canon Rebel XTI??

        I was looking at that.

        But is it gunna be strange to take that to a Blazer game? They are big.

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          • abyss_al
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            • Oct 2003
            • 15605
            #53
            Originally posted by boneprone
            How bout the Canon Rebel XTI??

            I was looking at that.

            But is it gunna be strange to take that to a Blazer game? They are big.

            rebel is a great camera
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              • hezochiah
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                • May 2006
                • 807
                #54
                Originally posted by boneprone
                How bout the Canon Rebel XTI??

                I was looking at that.

                But is it gunna be strange to take that to a Blazer game? They are big.
                That was the one I was going to suggest. I want to get one just to practice photography but it will still be good enough to take nice pictures when I get a little better. Plus the lenses for it will work with my XL2 which is good too.

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                  • spunkmaster
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 2052
                    #55
                    I like the nikon D70 and it's good for juts about anything. I have a few
                    lenses which are good for the closeups.

                    The D80 would be better ?

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                      • Lykos
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                        • Apr 2003
                        • 31027
                        #56
                        this thread will become my favoirite

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                          • quicksand
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                            • Apr 2001
                            • 89
                            #57
                            Whether you go with the slr or not you'll want a nice zoom to get closer to the action and image stabilization to get blur free images.
                            Most superzoom compact cameras have image stabilization but not all consumer slrs have it, so keep that in mind. The sony alpha has it so that makes it a good choice. The Pentax K10 has image stabilization too.
                            As per the superzooms they seem just what you need but their images are noisier at higher isos so if you want better image quality and shoot in low light conditions you'll have to go for the slrs.

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                              • rowan
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                                • Mar 2002
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                                #58
                                To take sharp images at zoom in low light (those 3 things make for a fairly challenging situation) your camera will need good high ISO performance. Most point & shoots will not be able to deliver this because their sensors are relatively small.

                                The Rebel XTi until recently was the world's smallest DSLR, although a good quality telephoto zoom will probably end up dwarfing the camera.

                                In the meantime, check your camera manual and see if it has shutter priority mode. In low light the camera will keep the shutter open to allow more light in, you can force the shutter speed up again and instead make it compensate with aperture and/or ISO. YMMV since higher ISO will be noiser.

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                                  • rowan
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                                    • Mar 2002
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                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by quicksand
                                    Whether you go with the slr or not you'll want a nice zoom to get closer to the action and image stabilization to get blur free images.
                                    This is good advice in general, but in this specific situation it may not work - image stabilisation just stops camera shake, it doesn't freeze a moving subject...

                                    Better high ISO performance and a faster shutter speed will do the trick.

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                                      • boneprone
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                                        • Jan 2001
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                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by quicksand
                                        Whether you go with the slr or not you'll want a nice zoom to get closer to the action and image stabilization to get blur free images.
                                        Most superzoom compact cameras have image stabilization but not all consumer slrs have it, so keep that in mind. The sony alpha has it so that makes it a good choice. The Pentax K10 has image stabilization too.
                                        As per the superzooms they seem just what you need but their images are noisier at higher isos so if you want better image quality and shoot in low light conditions you'll have to go for the slrs.

                                        Great post. This is what I have discovered after a lot of research as well...

                                        I just need to pull the trigger..

                                        What id like to do is buy one, the non SLR and test it. If its not as quality as im happy with return it and buy the SLR..

                                        Only problem is, the NBA season doesnt start till November.

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                                          • boneprone
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                                            • Jan 2001
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                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by rowan
                                            To take sharp images at zoom in low light (those 3 things make for a fairly challenging situation) your camera will need good high ISO performance. Most point & shoots will not be able to deliver this because their sensors are relatively small.

                                            The Rebel XTi until recently was the world's smallest DSLR, although a good quality telephoto zoom will probably end up dwarfing the camera.

                                            In the meantime, check your camera manual and see if it has shutter priority mode. In low light the camera will keep the shutter open to allow more light in, you can force the shutter speed up again and instead make it compensate with aperture and/or ISO. YMMV since higher ISO will be noiser.
                                            Yep.. And it appears that the Sony non SLR super zoom I was looking at gets reviews for having noise at 400 iso. Worse as it gets higher.

                                            Im wodering what iso level would be needed at an NBA event?

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                                              • boneprone
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                                                • Jan 2001
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                                                #62
                                                I think this is what I may do. Buy one. Test it, if it isnt what I want, return it for something else..

                                                Now I just have to find something that would simulate a NBA game setting for my test.

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                                                  • quicksand
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                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 89
                                                    #63
                                                    This is good advice in general, but in this specific situation it may not work - image stabilisation just stops camera shake, it doesn't freeze a moving subject...
                                                    Image stabilization will help with long telephoto pics, you'll get far more sharp shots with it at the long end of the lens with is. Image stabilization is a must with long zooms.

                                                    Im wodering what iso level would be needed at an NBA event?
                                                    I think that you'll get good results at ISO 200/400. Take the pics at maximum resolution and the highest quality, use noise reduction software (noiseware works fine), resize them to your liking and they should be ok
                                                    They will be much better than the ones from your actual camera but, of course, you'll get a lot more quality out of a slr.

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                                                      • Torn Rose
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                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 752
                                                        #64
                                                        I suggest the Nikon D70s or D80.

                                                        And off subject, but next season if you have 2 extra tickets and if the Pacers come out west, let me know ;)


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                                                          • Penthouse Tony
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                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                            • 5835
                                                            #65
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                                                              • boneprone
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                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 34415
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                                                You need something better for partying too.
                                                                Yeah and an SLR isnt good for that. To damn big.. I cant bring that into the Strip club!

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                                                                  • boneprone
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                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by Torn Rose
                                                                    I suggest the Nikon D70s or D80.

                                                                    And off subject, but next season if you have 2 extra tickets and if the Pacers come out west, let me know ;)

                                                                    Pacers huh! Nice!!

                                                                    Hmmm... Whos gunna be left on that team next season?

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                                                                      • Penthouse Tony
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                                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                                        • 5835
                                                                        #68
                                                                        BP who wins tonight's game?
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                                                                          • Torn Rose
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                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                            • 752
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                            Pacers huh! Nice!!

                                                                            Hmmm... Whos gunna be left on that team next season?
                                                                            Dude, I'm still crying over Reggie retiring and the BS trade/s of Al Harrington. I think you owe me something for tricking us into taking Jermain "Ouch, I'm hurt again" O?Neal off your hands, fuck I despise that wimp.

                                                                            We so suck....

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                                                                              • boneprone
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                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 34415
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Yeah your team is in trouble.. I honestly cant name any good players on your team!

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                                                                                  • boneprone
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                                                                                    • 34415
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Found another.


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                                                                                      • boneprone
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                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 34415
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        I just got back from the store.

                                                                                        I bought the Nikon D80 SLR..

                                                                                        Should be some nice pics Ill post here this upcoming season.

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                                                                                          • boneprone
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                                                                                            • 34415
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            I should be able to take these pics in super quality next year.


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                                                                                              • boneprone
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                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Been running around town taking pics today. My first SLR..

                                                                                                I love it.

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                                                                                                  • d-null
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2007
                                                                                                    • 13724
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    It's all in the lens. In zoom lenses you get what you pay for, a good zoom lens can cost more than the camera itself if you want pro quality action sports shots.

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                                                                                                      • rowan
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                                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                                        • 17393
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                                        Been running around town taking pics today. My first SLR..

                                                                                                        I love it.
                                                                                                        What did you get?

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                                                                                                          • Dusen
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                                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                                            • 2251
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            There are three advantages to a good DSLR for lowlight photos:

                                                                                                            1) The sensors (especially in the higher end Nikon or Canons) produce less noise at higher ISO values. Indoors games, you'd need to be shooting at 800-1600 to get decent clarity in shots. This makes a HUGE difference.

                                                                                                            2) By adding a super fast lens (wide aperture), you can reduce the time the shutter is open, thus reducing the need for the players to be 'still' like you mention.

                                                                                                            3) You can shoot in raw and bump up exposures a stop or so on photos deliberately underexposed to keep crispness.

                                                                                                            All 3 will help a lot. But it'll cost you for #1 and #2. Going out and buying a low end DSLR IMHO won't help that much, stick with your new canon P&S if that's your plan.
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                                                                                                              • C_U_Next_Tuesday
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                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                • 10581
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                You will fucking love your new Nikon D80! I have the D50 and my son has the D70. I just picked up this zoom lens for it and I can't even say how great the zoom is on this bitch.Nikon 18-200 VR

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                                                                                                                  • boneprone
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                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                                                                                                    You will fucking love your new Nikon D80! I have the D50 and my son has the D70. I just picked up this zoom lens for it and I can't even say how great the zoom is on this bitch.Nikon 18-200 VR
                                                                                                                    Good to hear.. I was looking at that lens as well.. Also there is a new lens a 50-200 VR lens same quality for about half the price. But the one you mention is more versitile becasue it has 18mm on it making it good for a lot of everyday stuff... I was looking at that lens and the 50-200..

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                                                                                                                      • boneprone
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                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Oden is going to be in town tomorrow. Ill have to take the new camera down there for some pics

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                                                                                                                          • tranza
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                                                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                            • 57559
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Some cool pics there....
                                                                                                                            I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                                              • jonesonyou
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                                                                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                • 3853
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                bump for cannon. I always enjoy the quality and feel of shooting with a cannon.

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                                                                                                                                  • SxDx
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                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2006
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                                                                                                                                    big night for the blazers tonight

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                                                                                                                                      • JP513
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                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                                                                        Or the Sony SLR alpha100..
                                                                                                                                        I have it--you'll love it if you get it . . . but you don't need that much camera. My recommendation coming soon.
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                                                                                                                                          • JP513
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                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                            • 1914
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                                                                            I just got back from the store.

                                                                                                                                            I bought the Nikon D80 SLR..

                                                                                                                                            Should be some nice pics Ill post here this upcoming season.
                                                                                                                                            Oh nevermind about my recommendation. I was gonna show u a pic and review of the Canon IS3, which has 12x optical zoom I think . . . but for under $400.

                                                                                                                                            You paid a lot more money for the D80 . . . BUT . . . you'll get some awesome pictured for many years to come.

                                                                                                                                            I recommend the 18-200 VR Nikon lens for about $750. Does everything well.
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                                                                                                                                              • bDok
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                                                                                                                                                nikon cameras rule. Good choice. Look forward to crisp pictures of some more cheerleaders.
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                                                                                                                                                  • J-Reel
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                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                                                                                    I just got back from the store.

                                                                                                                                                    I bought the Nikon D80 SLR..

                                                                                                                                                    Should be some nice pics Ill post here this upcoming season.

                                                                                                                                                    Noice!!! Can't wait to see your work at the Blazer Games this Year.

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                                                                                                                                                      • Jimmy Rock
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                                                                                                                                                        Am i the only one that thinks this chick looks Demonic?

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                                                                                                                                                          • onlymovies
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                                                                                                                                                              • rowan
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                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Dusen
                                                                                                                                                                All 3 will help a lot. But it'll cost you for #1 and #2. Going out and buying a low end DSLR IMHO won't help that much, stick with your new canon P&S if that's your plan.
                                                                                                                                                                I disagree, I have both the 350D (cheapest) and 1DsII (most expensive) Canon bodies and while the 1DsII is obviously ahead of the 350D I would say the only place that the latter suffers with basic "how images look" is in autofocus performance. (The interface and plasticy build are another matter of course)

                                                                                                                                                                Even a "lowly" 350D's sensor can probably outresolve a standard consumer lens.

                                                                                                                                                                There's a huge difference between ISO800 on a P&S (if it even supports it) and ISO800 on a CMOS DSLR.

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