This can lead to THE DEATH OF SKIM TGPs... Seriously...

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  • Tempest
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • May 2004
    • 10217
    #1

    This can lead to THE DEATH OF SKIM TGPs... Seriously...

    I can't believe this thread didn't get any play...

    http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=744871

    Must have been too technical for most WMs...

    I don't really know what you can do with a toolbar, but if you can trigger additional calls to the site in question, then there is NO way to stop this. Even so, if their toolbar auto-updates with a database, the lost traffic will still be significant.
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    • rowan
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Mar 2002
      • 17393
      #2
      Definitely needs to be discussed, particularly with the latest revelation that the company listed in the WHOIS appears to have been involved with some shifty practices in the past.

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        • Aussie Rebel
          Blow Me U Geeks
          • Aug 2001
          • 5108
          #3
          Bump.....

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            • rowan
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Mar 2002
              • 17393
              #4
              bump. No one seems to be interested.

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                • gideongallery
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 7082
                  #5
                  Originally posted by rowan
                  bump. No one seems to be interested.
                  unless someone comes up with a solution discussing this is nothing but whinning.


                  if you are designing a tradescript you should be working on a solution.

                  “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                    • million
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 789
                      #6
                      just posted on that thread so you dont feel bad

                      seriously, it sucks
                      <sig spot goes here>

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                        • Matt-RevShare
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2006
                          • 298
                          #7
                          Certainly, this is an important story, but its hard to discuss without sounding whiney.

                          Toolbars in general raise a lot of concerns in my opinion and I think that as more surfers get burned by these, they will learn to stay away. I guess that just takes time...

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                            • V_RocKs
                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 32467
                              #8
                              Wil have to read it.

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                                • CaptainHowdy
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 94196
                                  #9
                                  Bump... !!

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                                    • tolik
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 2035
                                      #10
                                      mostly newbies in internet will be install and using this. this are most dangerous as for me - because this traffic convert best.
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                                        • rowan
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 17393
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by gideongallery
                                          unless someone comes up with a solution discussing this is nothing but whinning.


                                          if you are designing a tradescript you should be working on a solution.
                                          It's not just about the toolbar thwarting tradescript tracking & redirecting... there are also questions about the ulterior motives of the company that released it. CoolWebSearch anyone?

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                                            • ztik
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 5196
                                              #12
                                              Stop misleading people and make money in an honest way?
                                              .

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                                                • cranki
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 5162
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by ztik
                                                  Stop misleading people and make money in an honest way?
                                                  right. in the end, the customer will win...

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                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                      • 28609
                                                      #14
                                                      hmm this only affects tgp's with unencrypted urls so simply encrypt the urls..
                                                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                        • rowan
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 17393
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                          hmm this only affects tgp's with unencrypted urls so simply encrypt the urls..
                                                          There's a thread on another board about this that suggests the toolbar catches the URL that is passed to the trade script (which is "in the clear"), so it would require that the thumb and trade scripts agree on encryption. The only other solution is integrating the thumb and trade script into one, so it's possible to use a proprietary value to indicate which gallery to send to... value in, URL out. The toolbar could probably still catch skimming by simply ignoring/blocking URLs such as http://www.domain.com/ or http://www.domain.com/tgp/

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                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                              • 28609
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                                              There's a thread on another board about this that suggests the toolbar catches the URL that is passed to the trade script (which is "in the clear"), so it would require that the thumb and trade scripts agree on encryption. The only other solution is integrating the thumb and trade script into one, so it's possible to use a proprietary value to indicate which gallery to send to... value in, URL out. The toolbar could probably still catch skimming by simply ignoring/blocking URLs such as http://www.domain.com/ or http://www.domain.com/tgp/
                                                              im pretty sure it could be easily done . if anyone has a tgp on the list and wants to try it out let mke know ill help you try
                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                • Tempest
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                  • 10217
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                  im pretty sure it could be easily done . if anyone has a tgp on the list and wants to try it out let mke know ill help you try
                                                                  Do you know how to program a toolbar and what you can and can't do with them? I don't so can't say for sure... But IMO if you can monitor redirect urls (and change them or trigger addtional traffic script calls) in conjunction with their database, then there would be no way to stop this.

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