So, it turns out OBAMA's Just Released Long Form Birth Certificate *WAS* a forgery!

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  • Dcat
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    • Aug 2003
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    So, it turns out OBAMA's Just Released Long Form Birth Certificate *WAS* a forgery!

    -OOOPS! ..Seems that someone dropped the ball and forgot to compress the layers of the .PDF before releasing the file.



    I just tested it myself in Adobe Illustrator. You can download Obama's Official Long Form Birth Certificate (from whitehouse.gov) and decide for yourself:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...-long-form.pdf

    Last edited by Dcat; 04-27-2011, 04:01 PM.
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    • IllTestYourGirls
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      • Feb 2007
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      #2
      I heard layers are automatically created and it is not a forgery. I doubt the CIA or Obama's people would be that bad. Obama was born in HI.

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        • marketsmart
          HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
          • Dec 2004
          • 20419
          #3
          oh jesus..

          not this shit again...

          some people believe in aliens and some people don't..

          there is information that would support either belief..

          same with god...





          .

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            • JFK
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              #4
              took em long enough to do it and they fuck up ??

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                • kristin
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                  And what will you do about it? Nothing, carry on.
                  Vacares rules.

                  "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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                    • Agent 488
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                        • u-Bob
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                          ok, now if that guy ever dies in some mysterious accident....

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                            • Dcat
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                              I heard layers are automatically created and it is not a forgery. I doubt the CIA or Obama's people would be that bad. Obama was born in HI.
                              Who knows, you can never be sure of anything these days. I also heard that if you examine it pixel by pixel, there are editting artifacts. It will be interesting to see what the experts (on both sides) have to say when they examine it. This “birther” thing is such a circus.
                              Last edited by Dcat; 04-27-2011, 04:11 PM.

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                                • Brujah
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                                  • Jan 2001
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                                  #9
                                  I heard if you hold it up to the bathroom mirror, in the dark, and say "Tea Party" three times, Sarah Palin fucks you in the ass with a cactus.

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                                    • IllTestYourGirls
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Dcat
                                      Who knows, you can never be sure of anything these days. I also heard that if you examine it pixel by pixel, there are editting artifacts. It will be interesting to see what the experts (on both sides) have to say when they examine it. This ?birther? thing is such a circus.
                                      Yup. Keeps us away from the fact that we are in 4 wars.

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                                        • DWB
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                                          Pretty odd I must say.

                                          Shouldn't be able to turn layers on and off like that.

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                                            • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                • nextri
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                                                  It's because adobe acrobat creates those layers automatically when it scans the document for text to make i searchable. Try it with any document with text that you scan, and you will see the same thing.
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                                                    • Ayden Rush
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                                                      ...of course

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                                                        • Dcat
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by DWB
                                                          Pretty odd I must say.

                                                          Shouldn't be able to turn layers on and off like that.
                                                          Yes, and if you look closely at the text layers (that you can toggle off and on), the characters don't match the other text in the background layers. The characters look lighter, and are slightly out of alignment.

                                                          I should make up an animated gif of this to demonstrate.

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                                                            • TheDoc
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                                                                • BV
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by nextri
                                                                  It's because adobe acrobat creates those layers automatically when it scans the document for text to make i searchable. Try it with any document with text that you scan, and you will see the same thing.

                                                                  ding ding ding, we have a winner

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                                                                    • Agent 488
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                                                                        • JFK
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                                                                          Originally posted by TheDoc
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                                                                            • 2MuchMark
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                                                                              President Obama should not have released this, you know why? Because people believe what they want to believe. Show someone proof positive that their beliefs are wrong, and they pull it apart and look for any reason to cast doubt and to give their own beliefs another glimmer of hope, no matter how stupid and fucked up it is.

                                                                              Here's the truth. Obama is a BLACK PRESIDENT. Racist republicans need to take this fact up their ass and accept it already. Next, he's doing a good job despite the shitstorm that he inherited from ol' GWB and he would be doing an even better job if the GOP didn't get in his way on every.single.thing.this.man.tries.to.do.

                                                                              As a non American I am completely stunned by the constant bullshit that gets in the way of progress in the US. Very sad.

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                                                                                • brassmonkey
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                                                                                    • alessergod
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
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                                                                                        • FlexxAeon
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                                                                                          Originally posted by nextri
                                                                                          It's because adobe acrobat creates those layers automatically when it scans the document for text to make i searchable. Try it with any document with text that you scan, and you will see the same thing.
                                                                                          thank you

                                                                                          fuck... really people?

                                                                                          jeezus...
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                                                                                            • PornoMonster
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                                                                                              Originally posted by nextri
                                                                                              It's because adobe acrobat creates those layers automatically when it scans the document for text to make i searchable. Try it with any document with text that you scan, and you will see the same thing.
                                                                                              can someone reproduce this???
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                                                                                                • Agent 488
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                                                                                                  just tried it with a document and layers were not created.

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                                                                                                    • Babaganoosh
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                                                                                                      Originally posted by PornoMonster
                                                                                                      can someone reproduce this???
                                                                                                      Everyone with a copy of acrobat can duplicate this.
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                                                                                                        • TripleXPrint
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                                                                                                          Originally posted by BV
                                                                                                          ding ding ding, we have a winner
                                                                                                          I didn't realize that it stamped out the background, too.
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                                                                                                            • Dcat
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                                                                                                              It's not like regular OCR.

                                                                                                              Here's an animation I made up. Only 800 pixels wide.

                                                                                                              http://postimage.org/image/179gnnuro/

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                                                                                                                • PornoMonster
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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                                                                  Everyone with a copy of acrobat can duplicate this.
                                                                                                                  tell me step by step, with a document, and I will do it with a birth cert
                                                                                                                  Thanks
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                                                                                                                    • FlexxAeon
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                                                                                                                      speaking as someone with some 'experience' in this 'field' *cough cough*

                                                                                                                      EVEN IF it were forged...

                                                                                                                      you wouldn't be cutting around fucking letters or shit that doesn't even need to be modified...

                                                                                                                      ...acrobat would be the LAST program you would use to do any modifying of the document....

                                                                                                                      etc...
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                                                                                                                        • TripleXPrint
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                                                                                                                          OCR technology does convert images to text but it sure as hell doesn't knock out the background in the process. You're saying that Acrobat has the ability to knock out a background and convert images to to text. Also, when it, layers images to text, the text is selectable so you can search or copy/paste. Finally, why was only the personal information layered and not the actual raw certificate information such a name, State, etc? OCR usually scans typed images better than hand written text.

                                                                                                                          I'm not saying, I'm just saying......
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                                                                                                                            • TripleXPrint
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                                                                                                                              ...acrobat would be the LAST program you would use to do any modifying of the document....
                                                                                                                              PDF files can be modified with any graphic application. Adobe, Microsoft, Mac...etc. I don't know of anyone that designs in Acrobat...if it's even possible.
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                                                                                                                                • FlexxAeon
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                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TripleXPrint
                                                                                                                                  PDF files can be modified with any graphic application. Adobe, Microsoft, Mac...etc. I don't know of anyone that designs in Acrobat...if it's even possible.
                                                                                                                                  lol............................................... ..........

                                                                                                                                  those are obviously layers rendered by acrobat, not layers preserved via photoshop, unless designers these days name all their layers <Group> <Group> <Group>...

                                                                                                                                  wait, why the fuck am i still in this thread? bye birthers!
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                                                                                                                                    • woj
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                                                                                                                                      the background was added in for sure... lines on the certificate are curved near the edge, background is not...
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                                                                                                                                        • Overload
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                                                                                                                                          you have serious problems in the US ... and it aint yer president ... your whole fucking system sucks, so why pick on a single person? really strange to see how much time ppl waste on useless shit and shit-stirring for nuthin ...
                                                                                                                                          There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                                                                                            • AAB
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                                                                                                                                              Like there has ever been any doubt that Obama is a fake...

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                                                                                                                                                    • rowan
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                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                                                                      the background was added in for sure... lines on the certificate are curved near the edge, background is not...
                                                                                                                                                      Yeah, that's pretty obvious, but if you look at the bottom it's a notarised copy. You would assume that the original was photocopied onto a page with that background, which shows that it's a valid copy and there's no alterations (at the time it was notarised)

                                                                                                                                                      HOWEVER... I did notice that when I scrolled the pdf, the green background momentarily disappeared but the text didn't. Fiddled a bit but couldn't reproduce this, nor could I find any way to view individual layers in my reader. The guy doing this video did have a way and he shows it's not just a flat scan of a document.

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                                                                                                                                                        • TripleXPrint
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                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                                                                                                                                                          lol............................................... ..........

                                                                                                                                                          those are obviously layers rendered by acrobat, not layers preserved via photoshop, unless designers these days name all their layers <Group> <Group> <Group>...

                                                                                                                                                          wait, why the fuck am i still in this thread? bye birthers!
                                                                                                                                                          Apparently the only design software you've used is MSPaint. I design quite a bit and and always group and name layers. When you have 100+ layers it's easier and minimizes file size. I'm not a birther, I just really dislike Obama.
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                                                                                                                                                            • FlexxAeon
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                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TripleXPrint
                                                                                                                                                              Apparently the only design software you've used is MSPaint. I design quite a bit and and always group and name layers. When you have 100+ layers it's easier and minimizes file size.
                                                                                                                                                              lol nice try on the MS paint crack but no..... i've used them all extensively

                                                                                                                                                              i said "unless designers these days name all their layers <Group> <Group> <Group>"

                                                                                                                                                              so what programs have YOU used??

                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TripleXPrint
                                                                                                                                                              I'm not a birther, I just really dislike Obama.
                                                                                                                                                              same difference these days.

                                                                                                                                                              you can dislike obama. i wasn't a fan of bush, myself. but i wasn't on the 9-11 conspiracy wagon because of it





                                                                                                                                                              ok i'm gone for REAL this time
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                                                                                                                                                                • Bill8
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                                                                                                                                                                  the funny thing is, even if obama has broken all his promises, and even if he was born in kenya (which only idiots believe), you republicans still wont be able to beat him in 2012.

                                                                                                                                                                  you can't even see your birther froth destroys your chances of winning.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • cykoe6
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                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                                                                      I heard layers are automatically created and it is not a forgery. I doubt the CIA or Obama's people would be that bad. Obama was born in HI.
                                                                                                                                                                      Agreed. It is time to stop talking about this nonsense.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • cherrylula
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                                                                                                                                                                          the moon landing was fake!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                            • TripleXPrint
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                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                                                                                                                                                                              lol............................................... ..........

                                                                                                                                                                              those are obviously layers rendered by acrobat, not layers preserved via photoshop, unless designers these days name all their layers <Group> <Group> <Group>...

                                                                                                                                                                              wait, why the fuck am i still in this thread? bye birthers!
                                                                                                                                                                              Apparently the only design software you've used is MSPaint. I design quite a bit and and always group and name layers. When you have 100+ layers it's easier and minimizes file size. I'm not a birther, I just really dislike Obama.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • harvey
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                                                                                                                                                                                  are we really discussing about a guy creating a conspiracy theory because he doesn't know how Acrobat works?
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                                                                                                                                                                                      some people just can't accept that they were wrong.
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Sad that America will call itself a SuperPower and leader yet they still argue about a piece of paper. LOLOL
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                                                                                                                                                                                              This video is a little better..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by nextri
                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's because adobe acrobat creates those layers automatically when it scans the document for text to make i searchable. Try it with any document with text that you scan, and you will see the same thing.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anyone care to replicate this?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Never Mind
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Watch this
                                                                                                                                                                                                      can someone prove this guy is wrong?
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