Fuck TGPs ... Yumm.net has the new concept for FREE porn

Depends on the gallery and the type of content.. I've experienced 20% - 50% on some I've checked... Even so.. we're talking about images here, not movies.. the scale of BW usage is tipped way over to the video side these days such that image gallery BW is almost "free" by comparison. I just don't see this as a huge deal as long as the sales come.

So yeah.. RawAlex has a point when it comes to converting the traffic.. But FHGs built by the majority of programs out there are "crap" at selling anyways... So this "fusker" site could probably do well by adding some good call to action "horny" text and links between each picture.

Oh.. one other potential benifit to this type of thing... On standard galleries, the surfer can just go straight for the money shot pics based on the thumbs they see on the FHG.. so there's less "frustration" built up which doesn't help generate sales... With this type of site, they're forced to a. wait for all the pics to load.. and b. to look at all of them to find the money shot ones... Could help with the frustration factor...

Forcing them to wait for a pic to load, especially with no real sales pitch around them is pretty useless. That would be catering to the uber-TGP surfer looking for beat off material, and not someone looking to buy a membership.

Remember, it is all about SELLING something... I can come up with 100 ways to give shit away, but that is pointless - we are in the business of marketing with the final goal of selling memberships or otherwise getting the surfer to do something that makes us money - and to do it quick enough that we make more money than we spend to accomplish it.

My point about this model is simple: if the person running it took sponsor content and hosted galleries in this manner, they would likely drop it in a short time because the costs of bandwidth would make in unprofitable. Sponsors may be able to absorb more bandwidth costs into their deal, but in the end, if 1000 sites open like this all pulling pics from the same free hosted galleries WITHOUT the sales pitch, the costs of free hosted galleries would go through the roof.

Imagine this on flash movies. Ugh.

nice first reply

Simply not true... The argument about freeloading TGP surfers not buying porn simply isn't as true as most people think.. The problem with the vast majority of WMs (and thus this false impression) out there is that they don't do any sales/marketing.. they have the attitude "build it and it will sell"... I for one actually market to my surfers (test and adjust) and I can tell you that yes.. there are freeloaders... yes it doesn't convert as well as SE traffic (keep in mind that you are typically selling EXACTLY what the SE person was looking for which is a hell of a lot different than a TGP) but also that loyal bookmark traffic.. the same ones that are the uber-tgp surfers looking to beat off every day... DO in fact buy.. and buy often.

I look at that "fusker" site and I see great selling potential... Juicy text mixed in with properly sequenced pictures etc. etc. etc..... but I don't hold out much hope for that actually happening.. Most WM are lazy morons that just slap shit up and hope something will sell.

We could go back and forth about this but frankly we both have our own experiences and opinions on the matter which I doubt will change.

Does this site even really try to sell anything? Two blocks of text links per every fusker format gallery? Are you fucking kidding me? This caters to the free porn surfer, and doesn't even bother to make it look otherwise.

No matter the function or type of traffic, its always the tease factor that sells. No script or spiders can do that job for you, except those few that gain on huge (real) traffic. So basically, making money depends on what you choose to market. Not only picking sponsors, but also the content.
If you do this manually, you can make 5k/month per 10k/day-traffic. Time and willingness are the only limits

I like it. Can I get a copy of the script?

Well, the sponsors used gave their ok, can't see anything bad in it.

Every movie gallery burns alot more bandwidth than this and some programs aren't afraid of putting several 2MB+ clips on a hosted gallery, which isn't that much different from loading 20x 100k pics.

Looks like crap,

Maybe I will add more links between the pictures.
Did you notice, btw, that every full-size image is linked to the paysite?

I will think about this second business model

Congrats, you invented a pic post, only several years late.

on the other hand, it's a good argument for not using a money shot pic, and clear thumbs so you don't burn a shitload of bandwidth loading all 20 or so pics for each surfer.

*ding*. This site design essentially tries to replace sales skill with sheer volume. As a business model, it only works because someone else (the programs) is paying the frieght for the major expense, bandwidth.

Like I said, take this site and do it with sponsor provided content, and host the images yourself. Then see in, I don't know, a month how profitable it really is. I suspect that it would be popular with the surfers, but not all that productive on a cost / signup ratio level because the amounts of bandwidth used would be way too high.

Tempest, when a sponsor puts up big movie clips, they also put them up with a big sales pitch (your horny text type stuff) and the idea is to get people to move forward from there. Typically 4 clips, most people won't load all 4, most will only view one, etc. The sales pitch is a large part of the page than the content, often movie galleries have only 3 clips but acres of sales pitch - there is a reason, you know it and I know it.

Jennycard: Linking all the images to the sponsor means your clicks will be higher (because people will click the images, but that is pretty much a blind link, which is the second lowest converting traffic (after blind skim). it's about selling something, not about traffic stats and clicks.

Remember this too: Fusker (the original) stayed in business only because the main guy was making bank as the refering WM for all the subs joining programs. As soon as those programs dropped him, it took less than a very few months for fusker to die. There was no money in just running fusker. Huge traffic, very, very little money.