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  • ServerGenius
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    • Feb 2002
    • 9377
    #1

    encoding to flash video format .flv

    Ok what's the fastest encoder that gives good quality....preferably something
    that I can run in batches on a powerfull server. I don't want to do this shit
    manually
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    • stickyfingerz
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      • Oct 2005
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      #2
      Sorenson Squeeze.

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        • GigaAlan
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          • Feb 2005
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          #3
          I'll second that. Plus the fact that Sorenson will encode your original source file into almost any format you want and you can do multiple source files in batch makes it AWESOME!
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            • Jim_Gunn
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              • Feb 2003
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              #4
              Cleaner XL 1.5 for pc also encodes to Flash and can do batch processes.

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                • ServerGenius
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                  • Feb 2002
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                  #5
                  cool ffmpeg can do it.....
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                    • ServerGenius
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                      Sorenson Squeeze.
                      cheching that out now.....sounds just what I need
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                        • Pete-KT
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                          • Oct 2004
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by ServerGenius
                          cool ffmpeg can do it.....
                          ya it can but you get a crappy outcome, the one used in ffmpeg is an old version its not the new one yet

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                            • ServerGenius
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                              • Feb 2002
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                              #8
                              hmm most of this stuff is windows tools and they take FOREVER to encode
                              something.....isn't there anything fast......? We've got TONS of material
                              to encode
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                                • ServerGenius
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                                  #9
                                  Where is smokey when you need him lol......
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                                    • ServerGenius
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                                      #10
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                                        • jacked
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                                          #11
                                          http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER_1

                                          super works well and also does batch encodes
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                                            • sinclair
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                                              • Aug 2004
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                                              #12
                                              Episode 4.3

                                              If you upgrade to 4.3.1 and have a Mac and FCP you can access it thru Compressor allowing you access to cluster rendering and batch processing.
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                                                • xxxfuzion
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Pete-KT
                                                  ya it can but you get a crappy outcome, the one used in ffmpeg is an old version its not the new one yet
                                                  I would give a try to ffmpeg...

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                                                    • Jamie
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                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                      #14
                                                      serverside go with ffmpeg, we batch encoded 7,200 videos (500gigs) in 3 days on a dual xeon.
                                                      worked great for the low b/w version.. high b/w version could be a little better but good enough when time is a factor

                                                      with a 71% member retention, I don't see the benefits of switching to sorenson yet.. and yes I own a copy
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                                                        • Jamie
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                                                          • Apr 2001
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                                                          #15
                                                          Here's the tutorial to setting it all up, thank me later

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                                                            • bl4h
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Pete-KT
                                                              ya it can but you get a crappy outcome, the one used in ffmpeg is an old version its not the new one yet
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                                                                • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                  • Feb 2003
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by ServerGenius
                                                                  hmm most of this stuff is windows tools and they take FOREVER to encode
                                                                  something.....isn't there anything fast......? We've got TONS of material
                                                                  to encode
                                                                  Use the fastest processor you can to speed the process, and use multiple computers hooked up to multiple hard drives if you can to encode more files simultaneously. I upgraded my main encoding machine this year to a E6600 Core2Duo pc w/ 4 Mb cache and 3Gb of Ram and it halved my encoding times from the older dual core Pentium D machine that I still use to capture and edit hdv.

                                                                  Better yet get one of those new Core 2 Quad processors! You don't have to spend top dollar on a whole fancy new computer for enthusiasts. Just get a bare bones machine with the fastest processors and lots ram or build it yourself.

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                                                                    • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                      • Feb 2003
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Jamie
                                                                      serverside go with ffmpeg, we batch encoded 7,200 videos (500gigs) in 3 days on a dual xeon.
                                                                      worked great for the low b/w version.. high b/w version could be a little better but good enough when time is a factor
                                                                      What's the point of a server side app like this? Is it basically, that if you have a lot of video files already online on a server somewhere, doing it server side saves you the hassle of finding the original source files and encoding them locally and uploading hundreds or thousands of the new flash files through ftp?

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                                                                        • leedsfan
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                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                          • 2564
                                                                          #19
                                                                          i'm trying to improve the playback quality of our flash videos. We have encoded content that'd being uploaded and then encoded on our servers into flash so everyone can then watch the video like youtube. But i can't seem to get the variables right. Here are the settings we have in ffmpeg:

                                                                          exec("$config[ffmpeg] -i source.avi -pass 1 -g 240 -qcomp 0.6 -qmax 15 -qdiff 4 -i_qfactor 0.71428572 -b_qfactor 0.76923078 -maxrate 950 -bufsize 485 -s 5\
                                                                          12x384 -b 800 -refs 1 -subq 1 -r 25 -acodec mp3 -ab 48 -ar 22050 -ac 1 -y $config[flvdodir]/".$vid.".flv");

                                                                          Any ideas what we can do to improve the playback quality?
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                                                                            • Jasun-D24
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                                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                                              • 31
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Sorensen. For sure.

                                                                              Although you kinda need to finesse it a bit. Buy the VP6 plug-in and use the Streaming .flv patches for the best quality, although there's a great setting that wil give you an SWF file that will call on the .flv file so you can have a still image that won't download the movie until you click the file.

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                                                                                • fbrtopic
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                                                                                  • Apr 2006
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I've never used Sorenson, but I have used Super and Flash Video Converter (from Macromedia directly) I can't recommend Super for it, because the quality kinda sucks, but it is good for other video conversions, it does almost everything. Flash Video Converter is pretty damn good though, quick and easy.

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                                                                                    • stfan
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                                                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                                                      • 25
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Sorenson is one of the best choices for encoder. Its flash and wmv outputs are among the best. For flash flv streaming videos, currently the best codec is On2 VP6 Pro.

                                                                                      If anyone is looking to get a large quantity of videos encoded, we provide professional grade encoding services at very reasonable price and fast turn-around. Saving you lots of time and effort to try to look for the optimum choice for your encoding needs.
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                                                                                        • ServerGenius
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          quality with ffmpeg depends much on what encoder/compressor you use.
                                                                                          there's more than 1 that can do the job.

                                                                                          The reason I prefer serverside is that I have physicall access to the servers
                                                                                          and have way more of them than workstations that are anywhere near as
                                                                                          powerfull as the servers that I have. None of the servers however run windows and I don't intend to install a bunch of them with windows first
                                                                                          coz that takes as long as converting the videos itself

                                                                                          I'm gonna test a few of the suggestions before I make decision which way
                                                                                          to go. thanks for the all suggestions I appreciate it very much and I'll keep
                                                                                          checking this thread to see if there's more
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                                                                                            • leedsfan
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                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                              • 2564
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by stfan
                                                                                              Sorenson is one of the best choices for encoder. Its flash and wmv outputs are among the best. For flash flv streaming videos, currently the best codec is On2 VP6 Pro.

                                                                                              If anyone is looking to get a large quantity of videos encoded, we provide professional grade encoding services at very reasonable price and fast turn-around. Saving you lots of time and effort to try to look for the optimum choice for your encoding needs.
                                                                                              Can you use this as a stand alone encoder for an online web streaming portal such as a youtube clone, and any examples of the net result after re-encoding through the software?
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                                                                                                • stfan
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2007
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by leedsfan
                                                                                                  Can you use this as a stand alone encoder for an online web streaming portal such as a youtube clone, and any examples of the net result after re-encoding through the software?
                                                                                                  Sorenson products are for encoding the movies only, not for hosting. You can see some samples of encoded results on our website.
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                                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                      • 24984
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by stfan
                                                                                                      Sorenson products are for encoding the movies only, not for hosting. You can see some samples of encoded results on our website.
                                                                                                      your demo page is broke http://www.encoding.tv/product.html least for me. All the vids are not found.

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                                                                                                        • ServerGenius
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by stfan
                                                                                                          Sorenson products are for encoding the movies only, not for hosting. You can see some samples of encoded results on our website.
                                                                                                          I just checked your site and clicked demo.....all the flash demo's are
                                                                                                          404 file not found.
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                                                                                                            • ServerGenius
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                              your demo page is broke http://www.encoding.tv/product.html least for me. All the vids are not found.
                                                                                                              damn you beat me to it
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                                                                                                                • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  btw you are going to get sig owned soon if you dont change that.

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                                                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                      • 24984
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by ServerGenius
                                                                                                                      damn you beat me to it
                                                                                                                      Ya I always look to see what quality other people are getting hehe.

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                                                                                                                        • Voodoo
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                                                                                                                          I use notepad.exe to do all of my file conversions and video work.

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                                                                                                                            • boldy
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Lets talk about that on the beach ..
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                                                                                                                                • BradM
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I use Riva FLV Encoder, one vid at a time no batching. Works well.

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                                                                                                                                    • ServerGenius
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by boldy
                                                                                                                                      Lets talk about that on the beach ..
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                                                                                                                                        • stfan
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                                                                                                                                          Sorry we were doing some updates yesterday. All links are working now.
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                                                                                                                                            • fuzebox
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                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Pete-KT
                                                                                                                                              ya it can but you get a crappy outcome, the one used in ffmpeg is an old version its not the new one yet
                                                                                                                                              Play with the options ffmpeg can make some pretty decent quality vids, but not with a default command line.

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                                                                                                                                                • Sebastian Sands
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by stfan
                                                                                                                                                  Sorry we were doing some updates yesterday. All links are working now.
                                                                                                                                                  They aren't working for me on FireFox. Going to check IE now.

                                                                                                                                                  Sebs

                                                                                                                                                  P.S. they work in IE
                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by Sebastian Sands; 06-23-2007, 10:05 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                    • stfan
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                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sebastian Sands
                                                                                                                                                      They aren't working for me on FireFox. Going to check IE now.

                                                                                                                                                      Sebs

                                                                                                                                                      P.S. they work in IE
                                                                                                                                                      Sorry Folks. Guess Firefox really does certain things differently from IE. Will fix this soon. Thank you all for the feedback.
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                                                                                                                                                        • Sebastian Sands
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                                                                                                                                                          Will Sorensen let you put a skin on the flash? Or do you have to do that in Flash itself?

                                                                                                                                                          Sebs

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                                                                                                                                                            • fris
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                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by ServerGenius
                                                                                                                                                              Ok what's the fastest encoder that gives good quality....preferably something
                                                                                                                                                              that I can run in batches on a powerfull server. I don't want to do this shit
                                                                                                                                                              manually
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                                                                                                                                                                • stfan
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                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sebastian Sands
                                                                                                                                                                  Will Sorensen let you put a skin on the flash? Or do you have to do that in Flash itself?

                                                                                                                                                                  Sebs
                                                                                                                                                                  If you are talking about watermarks, Sorenson itself does not impose watermark. That function is not yet available. However, there are a couple of ways to impose watermarks on your flash: 1) Use a custom flash streaming player that impose watermarks on the flash movie it plays, such as the flash player from mediaconductor.com. 2) Watermark the source (e.g. mpeg) first using a 3rd party software before encoding to flash movie with Sorenson.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • ZoneMaster
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                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Voodoo
                                                                                                                                                                      I use notepad.exe to do all of my file conversions and video work.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Sebastian Sands
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                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by stfan
                                                                                                                                                                          If you are talking about watermarks, Sorenson itself does not impose watermark. That function is not yet available. However, there are a couple of ways to impose watermarks on your flash: 1) Use a custom flash streaming player that impose watermarks on the flash movie it plays, such as the flash player from mediaconductor.com. 2) Watermark the source (e.g. mpeg) first using a 3rd party software before encoding to flash movie with Sorenson.
                                                                                                                                                                          Nope, I know what a watermark is. A skin is something else. the colors and lay out of the flash player, it allows you to able/disable options such as pause/play, full screen etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • stfan
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Sebastian Sands
                                                                                                                                                                              Nope, I know what a watermark is. A skin is something else. the colors and lay out of the flash player, it allows you to able/disable options such as pause/play, full screen etc.

                                                                                                                                                                              Sebastian
                                                                                                                                                                              Oh, Sorry. I misunderstood. The players are usually custom made by streaming hosts. For example, I have seen Youtube flash players put a big round play button in the middle of the video screen for you to push to play; Mediaconductor.com has a very unique function on their players that allows viewer to push a mini thumbnail button on the player tool bar to open up a thumbnail view of selected scenes from the movie so you can click the particular scene you want and instantly jump to that scene.
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