Full Tilt & Pokerstars Have Been Laundering

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  • marketsmart
    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
    • Dec 2004
    • 20419

    #16
    Originally posted by kristin
    Yes, the words *I believe* clearly show that I am speaking on behalf of their Accounting Department. (I also believe OJ had a hand in his wife's murder.)

    Really, everything you comment on here has a direct effect on you?
    yes, i am actually the secret financier of every corporation in the world...





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    • seeandsee
      Check SIG!
      • Mar 2006
      • 50945

      #17
      After this shit with such big poker houses i say i dont TRUST NOBODY AND %, SO BETTER PLAY LIVE AND NOT FOOLED AND TRICKED BY THIS FUCKERS!
      BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year

      Contact here

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      • TheDoc
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2001
        • 13827

        #18
        Originally posted by marketsmart


        after you get finished washing kristen's underwear can you please do the dishes and take out the garbage...

        show me their tax statements and then you might have a case for money laundering..

        did they play games to process the money of US gamblers?

        yes, they did..

        did they launder money?

        i dont think so...

        the US thinks they can dictate their law around the globe..

        however, the US is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, lawbreakers in the world...



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        Oh wow a 3rd grade come back, I'm devastated....

        Taxes? They're not American, nobody is using a tax return to bust them on this.

        Is it illegal to process gambling transactions on U.S. Banks and that is by definition Money Laundering.

        It really makes no difference what you think or if the U.S. breaks a ton of laws - in this world and at this time, America is God and until someone changes those rules it will stay that way.
        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
        It's all disambiguation

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        • marketsmart
          HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
          • Dec 2004
          • 20419

          #19
          Originally posted by TheDoc
          Oh wow a 3rd grade come back, I'm devastated....

          Taxes? They're not American, nobody is using a tax return to bust them on this.

          Is it illegal to process gambling transactions on U.S. Banks and that is by definition Money Laundering.

          It really makes no difference what you think or if the U.S. breaks a ton of laws - in this world and at this time, America is God and until someone changes those rules it will stay that way.
          it is illegal based on US law...

          if you think that this is anything less than the US trying to make a money grab and pave the way to US corporate gaming, then you are being naive...





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          • TripleXPrint
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2007
            • 983

            #20
            Does this mean their late night poker matches won't be televised anymore?
            Skype: Triplexprint

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            • TheDoc
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 13827

              #21
              Originally posted by marketsmart
              it is illegal based on US law...

              if you think that this is anything less than the US trying to make a money grab and pave the way to US corporate gaming, then you are being naive...

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              No shit it's based on U.S. law, it's our banks... that's what you're missing here. They were processing gambling transactions through U.S. Banks.

              If you were to start processing illegal transactions off ANY Countries banks, the EXACT same thing would come down on you.


              I HOPE our Casinos open them and all others remain illegal and it's ALL a money grab, it makes no damn difference who is doing it. However I do feel damn safer knowing it's at least regulated within our borders if our Casinos get to do it.
              ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
              It's all disambiguation

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              • Tempest
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • May 2004
                • 10217

                #22
                Originally posted by marketsmart
                it is illegal based on US law...
                I really don't get your logic at all.... The US law says it's illegal to use US Banks to process offshore gambling. They used various methods to hide the fact that they were processing gambling transactions and there was even something about them bribing some banks to let them do it. So what point exactly are you trying to make?

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                • wehateporn
                  Promoting Debate on GFY
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 27176

                  #23
                  The US laws are not generally there to protect the people, they are there to be used when a business needs to use them to increase profits. The US is now run by the big corporations, the people who live there are assets

                  Needing to be vaccinated to attend school is a typical example.
                  Last edited by wehateporn; 04-20-2011, 03:59 PM.

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                  • Tempest
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • May 2004
                    • 10217

                    #24
                    I love this part as the timing of the indictments is so interesting...

                    Wynn Resorts Ltd. (WYNN), owner of Wynn and Encore casinos in Las Vegas and Macau, announced on March 25 an alliance with PokerStars, the world?s biggest online poker business, to seek the legalization of Internet gambling in the U.S. Wynn said it terminated the accord on April 15.

                    Wynn Resorts ?hesitantly? partnered with PokerStars ?because there didn?t seem to be any interest in the government to enforce restrictions on the game of poker,? chief executive officer and founder Steve Wynn said yesterday on an earnings call, where he compared the situation to last century?s prohibition of alcohol. ?We?re trying to figure out what the hell the public policy is and then we can have a corporate policy.?

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                    • Vendot
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2002
                      • 3376

                      #25
                      Sheesh, I posted this thread as a joke but there are actually some people stupid enough to fall for these bullshit charges.
                      "In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act." - George Orwell

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                      • Brent 3dSexCash
                        Octopus Anime
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1064

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Vendot
                        Are you a member of the conspiracy theorist club? My friend might know you.
                        No, he is exactly right. The latest move by the DOJ is ironically the first step to legalizing it all in the states.
                        Last edited by Brent 3dSexCash; 04-24-2011, 08:14 AM.

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                        • datatank
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 5471

                          #27
                          Originally posted by TheDoc
                          America is God and until someone changes those rules it will stay that way.
                          OMG this is the funniest thing you have ever said.

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                          • Brent 3dSexCash
                            Octopus Anime
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1064

                            #28
                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                            As the article says.... "PokerStars, Full Tilt and Absolute used fraudulent means to work around the ban to continue operating in the U.S., and “trick” banks into processing payments on their behalf."

                            "The indictment names two principals from each company and others who allegedly worked with them to illegally process payments."

                            Money laundering is the practice of disguising the origins of illegally-obtained money.

                            Looks spot on to me....
                            All the money laundering charge really pertains to is USA citizens depositing on the site. Because it was illegal for stars and ftp to take funds from US customers they constantly had to setup new payment processor to take in the money. This is why in some cases your credit card/ach deposit (echeck) would be charged for by a clothing store in Singapore or some other type of business that had nothing to do with poker. It was a constant and game of processor being seized and new one popping up to take their place.
                            Last edited by Brent 3dSexCash; 04-24-2011, 08:16 AM.

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                            • V_RocKs
                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 32447

                              #29
                              Sucks to be a poker pro right now... gotta go back to work. No more tv money to float your shit, down times. Time to grind like real poker players. The days of celebrity poker are dust. The pool at wsop will be much smaller this year.

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                              • Supz
                                Arthur Flegenheimer
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 11057

                                #30
                                They technically are money laundering criminals based on us laws. The only reason why they were money laundering was to accommodate US players. So technically every person from the US who has played on these sites did the same thing. Everyone knows that transactions don't come from pokerstars or fulltilt and why they did it. But they played anyway. If the US would just tax them and let people in the US play. They would not have to use fake companies for processing.

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