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Old 04-16-2011, 09:17 PM  
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla View Post
Funny thread, I based it on that FACT that Barry said his health care law cost as much as Bush's prescription drug bill, when the whole time when he was trying to sell that piece of shit bill he said it would save money.
I'm going by what he said, but his supporters are coming up with all sorts of excuses, thats right EXCUSES!!

Everyone is saying we can't cut medicare or social security or medicaid, so how we going to afford one more entitlement?



Obama said
...today, health insurance reform is the law of the land all across America...

AT&T Inc. will take a $1 billion non-cash accounting charge in the first quarter because of the health care overhaul and may cut benefits it offers to current and retired workers...

Obama said
...over the last year, there's been a lot of misinformation spread about health care reform. There's been plenty of fear-mongering, plenty of overheated rhetoric...

AK Steel Corp... and Valero Energy announced [similar] accounting charges, saying the health care law that President Barack Obama signed Tuesday will raise their expenses.

Obama said
...You turn on the news, you'll see the same folks are still shouting about there's going to be an end of the world because this bill passed. (Laughter.) ...

On Friday, 3M Co. said it will also take a charge of $85 million to $90 million.

Obama said
...I'm not exaggerating. Leaders of the Republican Party, they called the passage of this bill "Armageddon." (Laughter.) Armageddon. "End of freedom as we know it" ...

Manufacturer John Deere announced Thursday that it expected the company's expenses to be about $150 million higher than last year...

Obama said
...So after I signed the bill, I looked around to see if there any -- (laughter) -- asteroids falling or -- (applause) -- some cracks opening up in the Earth. (Laughter.) It turned out it was a nice day. (Laughter.) ...

That came a day after Caterpillar predicted a new cost of $100 million..

Obama said
...Birds were chirping. Folks were strolling down the Mall. People still have their doctors...

Most of the new costs will come in a reduction in subsidies that about 1,400 companies receive for providing drug coverage to their retirees. In an effort to raise several billion dollars for implementing the health care package, the law makes those subsidies taxable, just like income...

Obama
From this day forward, all of the cynics, all the naysayers -- they're going to have to confront the reality of what this reform is and what it isn't... this isn't a government takeover of our health care system. They'll see that if Americans like their doctor, they'll be keeping their doctor. You like your plan? You'll be keeping your plan. No one is taking that away from you......

10 top companies, including Caterpillar, John Deere, Verizon, Xerox, Boeing and Met Life, warned Congress in December that over the long term, it would [hurt their bottom line] "Taxing the subsidy means that more companies will eliminate or reduce the coverage," they warned, "and more retirees will shift to Medicare ... which will create more cost for both the government and the retirees."


Your logic is so twisted it's rather sad.... Bush's plan cost as much as an entire healthcare bill with pills included in it. That means Obama's plan was far BETTER, not worse at any level or angle. Even comparing them, is silly - Obama basically kicked his ass in with the healthcare plan, all around.


You can't cut Medicare, not without something to replace it with - bingo! And if they would leave SS alone it would be fine.


None of that other trash makes a difference... get on the wagon to improve what we have rather than trying to revert back to a system that has already failed America. And for the love of god, stop trying to translate Obama's speeches into your own twisted meanings.
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