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Originally Posted by bm bradley
good stuff except for 'not good enough'. as you have stated you were trained by the mag editors and made many mistakes but you learned so you could earn ... now suddenly people that have a different set of skills from other training than you, aren't as good as you?
not to sure about that one P. this is basically why you are regarded as an 'ass', it's due to your superior attitude about a dated skills set... you should really consider this.... 
as far as my shooting goes.... the members vote on my work, I get good ratings, I keep working. pretty simple.... are you better than me? who cares? I sure don't. you don't pay my bills... |
Your profile says you came here in 2003, so I assume you started shooting then. Mags were still a very good business to shoot for in 2003 and still were till 2007. Even if it had declined you could of still done 3 avenues, custom and mags and a store.
My photo skills were always good enough, it had been a hobby for years. My skills with girls were good enough. The editors saw this and were prepared to help me.
What I needed was advice on poses, structure of a set and locations.
What skills did the sponsors teach you? Because talking to them I found them pretty clueless about shooting porn. Was the skill to shoot 10 sets in a day for $1500? Which was what ATK paid.
Do you get paid according to votes or what?
What ever you did get paid it wasn't what you could of earned working for mags. Or you simply were not good enough.
Here's what they were buying, could you of shot this content?
http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=1735
http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=1814
http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=1457
http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=1242
If the answer is yes, then you lost money. If the answer is no, you didn't lose money.
But if ATK had of employed me, I would of shot this content for them and it would of made them a lot of money. Assuming they would spend the money to employ me.
Instead they employed people who couldn't shoot this, but could shoot 10 sets in a day for $1500. And ended up needing a ton of traffic to make a sale. And paid through the nose for the traffic.
I'm not trying to be arrogant there were at least 100 guys like me ATK could of employed and sold all their content to magazines. Making the members area content free. And the shooter would deal with sales. Making less work, more profit and a better site. For Kim and 100s of other sponsors, well they couldn't all do it. But I'm sure you get the picture.
The online guys were just too blinkered and arrogant to look around for possibilities, even when I was here telling them.
But think of it more. Who would of liked more sites that converted better and retained longer. Because the product was better. Sites that really stood out from the crowd? Affiliates would of loved them. And the experienced shooters could of taught the site owners a lot more than site owners taught shooters.
Now if that makes me an ass. So be it.
Attitude I have to say isn't my strong point, I don't suffer fools gladly.