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so did you read about this after the fact, considering bang bus got popular 4 years before you even got involved in this industry.
It didn't have anything to do with their site, they were a huge success because of their free samples on p2p sites...
Please enlighten us with the ibill comments.
Yeah, I am a moron and stickyfingers knows it all... it all makes sense now, I am sure everyone agrees with you too.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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So you are saying that if Coca cola sponsored a child porn movie that TV stations would still carry their ads?
That is what was said, has nothing to do with torrent sites.
It was asked:
Would CBS or NBC attempt to tell Coca Cola or Chevrolet what they can or can not do?
And my answer was if Coca Cola was working to promote child porn NBC and CBS would drop them.
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Tmobile does not offer adverts in them... it's a third party affiliate marketing program.
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If coca cola was giving access to all of NBC's sports events on coke's site without NBC's consent and coke removed all of NBC's advertiser's ads... Do you think NBC would sell coke commericals ?
get your analogies a little more accurate then ask yourself what would they do. Maybe NBC would still sell them commercials, but I think a correct analogy makes one stop and think and not be 100% sure how they would handle it.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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You're arguing with a guy who has no clue what he is talking about, he doesn't actually check to see if what he says is true, he just assumes that since he believes it true, it must be.
I am not even sure he actually knows what a torrent site is, he just keeps talking about CP. He is obsessed with CP actually.Comment
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Thats a kind of silly question isn't it ? You would have no problem seeing ibill as a sponsor or "legal" child nudity sites ?
But to answer your question simply.. Because he loses more money promoting them than he makes off the gfy ad banners . dayyum..
Because the word is out that playboy wont do anything if sponsors advertise on sites that display its stolen content.
Because his own affiliates cant promote his sites via these methods but i can signup to aff and promote aff using playboy content , and nobody seems to care .hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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Oh oh! I smell drama ahead.
Best break out the drama Dalai Lama:
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We are getting to the meat of the potatoes here.. So why doesnt Tmobile tell them to stop? Shouldnt they patrol every site that that 3rd party advertises on and make sure its all legal?Comment
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Lol ok ScottyBuzz.... I think within a month you'll see something different, but not my persona changing. But its quite likely you were not 18 yet when you decided to "pass" on getting a membership... lmaoComment
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I don't want to be a smartass and in fact hope that I'm wrong but I think you
would have a much bigger chance on a reply if you would have called Lens
to ask......or if Lens would be dodging webmaster calles email him about.
Even if he would want to reply I think the reply could be slighty different
depending on who's asking
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The scary part is that he probably doesn't even realize how fucking stupid the things he says are.
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Why does sticky awesome skip my questions in threads...
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no it isn't thats why i asked the question.
yes , he can choose to not do business with sponsors who don't follow the same rules his affiliates do.
common sense.. what part are you having a hard time understanding ?
you mean the meeting you hallucinated in your head because you thought it was witty ? hmm not sure i don't have those hallucinations.
Personally i wouldnt make any meeting i would just not do business with people who pay others that are distributing my stolen stuff.
in the real world you would be arrested if you stole something , happens all the time.. you cant buy a stolen burger in downtown los angeles that is actually in holland..
dayyum thts the difference between the interweb and the real world..
thats a classic statement .. great biz model.. dont do anything
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If I have to guess which factors could have led to such decisions then I'd say
1: coz the profits outweigh the negatives....
2: competitive benefits
3: believing that the concept of doing this doesn't have to be as bad for
sites as everyone makes it believe......working together with these sites
keeps you off them as well or realizing that the fact that these sites can
leech of your content is simply because it's easy enough for them to do it.
Another damage these site do depends on what content you have.
Playboy stuff is one of kind and so wellknown that people would still
buy a membership just to belong to playboy community.
AFF for example has live stuff, that's not as easy to rip and not nearly
as much fun to watch it when it's not live.
If you just have hardcore pics/vids and nothing else to draw members to
your sites than just that content then the effect are far worse then sites
that have more than just vids/pics.
Last but not least Playboy is a public traded company. These companies
work completely different than non traded companies. What would result
in a loss for a regular company may result in a huge profit for a traded company.
There's more things than turnover and profit that result to the value of
their stock options.
Often companies sell whatever they sell at the cost of huge losses just to
get enough people buying their stuff which eventually would gain them profit.
When I worked for private.com at some point they thought about giving access
to all their sites and content for free....as the effect on their stock
would be much bigger than they could ever make by selling memberships.
that's what I'm guessing.......of course it's not impossible that I would be
totally wrong.....so basically my guess doesn't help you answer your question
even one bit.......but at least I cared enough to write all this shit down anyway
Yup seems I made again......drunk before midnight.....yay!
I'm in a very strict training regime for the Octoberfest gatheringLast edited by ServerGenius; 06-16-2007, 02:07 PM.Comment
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lol you coulda boiled it down to one word..If I have to guess which factors could have led to such decisions then I'd say
1: coz the profits outweigh the negatives....
2: competitive benefits
3: believing that the concept of doing this doesn't have to be as bad for
sites as everyone makes it believe......working together with these sites
keeps you off them as well or realizing that the fact that these sites can
leech of your content is simply because it's easy enough for them to do it.
Another damage these site do depends on what content you have.
Playboy stuff is one of kind and so wellknown that people would still
buy a membership just to belong to playboy community.
AFF for example has live stuff, that's not as easy to rip and not nearly
as much fun to watch it when it's not live.
If you just have hardcore pics/vids and nothing else to draw members to
your sites than just that content then the effect are far worse then sites
that have more than just vids/pics.
Last but not least Playboy is a public traded company. These companies
work completely different than non traded companies. What would result
in a loss for a regular company may result in a huge profit for a traded company.
There's more things than turnover and profit that result to the value of
their stock options.
Often companies sell whatever they sell at the cost of huge losses just to
get enough people buying their stuff which eventually would gain them profit.
When I worked for private.com at some point they thought about giving access to all their sites and content for free....as the effect on their stock
would be much bigger than they could ever make by selling memberships.
that's what I'm guessing.......of course it's not impossible that I would be
totally wrong.....so basically my guess doesn't help you answer your question
even one bit.......but at least I cared enough to write all this shit down anyway
Yup seems I made again......drunk before midnight.....yay!
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the adult industry in general is declining for the first time ever while dating is still on the rise.. the only way i could see this being beneficial is if someone at playboy owns alot of aff
and even then i see no reason why they shouldnt allow their affiliates to promote them in the same places ..hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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Did you really have to also rub it in to me that:
A: you already knew all the shit that took me 10 minutes to write
B: you could write down exactly the same in just 3 lines
C: to make me feel stupid
Thanks man.......did I piss you off to deserve this or was I just passing by
accidently at the wrong time?
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yeap, i know nothing. I've been doing this since 99 and have made more than 95% of the people here. Here comes sticky, starts doing adult in 2006, resells content, and speaks out of his ass on shit he knows nothing about, which is basically everything you comment on.
Sticky, what is your outside the box idea to fight torrent sites???
Your idea to " give away samples" isn't going to cut it. You can't give away samples and expect people to signup when the entire site is being given away for free on the same page as the sample. So tell us, since you make it sound so simple and you try t o make it sound like everyone is stupid for not having figured this out yet, what is the magical out the box idea you have to profit and " wide the wave" of torrent sites.
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bottom line is that torrent sites won't dissapear within the next few months....
so you better adapt to todays reality than cry about how unfair the reality is.
Offering Trial memberships should be reconsidered. Making it harder to rip
the content and yes that's possible...even while the leech has a paid membership. For example displaying your content dynamically which makes it
harder to simply rip it.....ripping flash video for example is possible but the
quality you end up with isn't the same as watching it stream.
Creating other reasons than just pics/vids why people would want to come
to your sites rather than just grabbing some pics/clips.
Interactive elements, member interaction, community environment are a few
examples that come to mind.
Or you could just sit back, cry and pray you can keep your head from going
under before the storm is over
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