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  • 3xTom
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 1610

    #1

    Scam Warning! Female Performers Please Read

    So last night I got an email from a girl asking if someone named Erin owned Liz Vicious website and sent me a full discussion she had with this person..
    I am only putting this part of the email in this post as this Erin person has been stringing this girl along for over 4 months now.

    I have read thru it a couple times now and its really kind of freaky to think someone out there is coxing girls into something ( not sure what ) using our websites.

    Whats your opinion on what this guy is actually trying to do?

    I have removed the performers name and location for her privacy
    and I have left the scammers name because he is A SLIMMY BASTARD...

    Anyways be careful girls...



    Erin Javis says
    Hi are you there?
    Is now an ok time to chat?
    I was hoping we could organize your shoot for this week.
    But I want to discuss more with you first

    Female Performer - says
    hello
    have you done up the contract

    Erin Javis says
    Hi

    Female Performer - says
    how r u?

    Erin Javis says
    Yes it is not on this computer though I will send it through asap.
    Assuming your comfortable with it though, are you free much the next 2
    weeks?

    Female Performer - says
    yes i can be

    Erin Javis says
    I am well thank you. Yourself? How is life treating you?

    Female Performer - says
    the sooner you can get through that ill send it straight thru to lawyers name
    oh the license thing is killing me but other than that

    Erin Javis says
    Which license thing?

    Female Performer - says
    i guess it stops me getting into trouble
    i lost my license , so hard to get about
    i got caught twice in 24 hours driving without
    yes stupid i know
    so 3 months turned into 17 . and nearly a jail sentence
    not speeding, not drunk just without a license

    Erin Javis says
    Oh no good, what area of performer town are you in? Also I wanted to clear up
    any confusion so I know.. Do you want to meet with co-talents for
    future shoots first over coffee? Your first few are just solo as
    agreed though, we do have a co-talent doing shoots in performer town now, and
    it would be practical to try to get some done with you too to save
    return trip. Expenses Expenses lol
    Wow, be careful girl, NO JAIL ! lol

    Female Performer - says
    yeah will do sols first , i dont have to meet them just give me their
    stats lol. and as long as they have a medical clearance i just had
    all my tests done a few days ago so i ll have a clearance
    now just run me through how this works .

    Erin Javis says
    Ok sure you have your paperwork for that?
    OK sure which part can I help you with?

    Female Performer - says
    you do the site up , take the footage ..
    just me me though ho w it works

    Erin Javis says
    Ok so a good example of one of our best customers sites Liz is a good
    place to start. www.LizVicious.com the site is made, shoots are set on
    there and through online affiliate marketing you profit (direct to you
    for your own security of funds) then you send our commission monthly

    Basically affiliate marketing is advertisments on the site. In its
    MOST simplest form, we use a myriad of advertisers with our sites

    Female Performer - says
    i dont understand what you mean with the advertisers
    ok so when ppl click on the site they pay to enter the site

    Erin Javis says
    our online marketing team sort out the viewers. We use this method for
    3 reasons 1. security of funds to you 2. ongoing payment is the new
    porn instead of 1 small sum in its steady 3. it limits or expenses
    No thats the old web 1.0 method

    Female Performer - says
    so where does the paymnt go to ?

    Erin Javis says
    Noone pays for porn now, porn creators are paid when people click on
    site 'leads' (everytime someone clicks your paid, no need for them to
    sign up or provide credit card details) the advertisers use this
    method as it allows them to have targeted niche viewers, porn for porn
    for example
    Typically paypal, or it can be set up in your own account to transfer
    to your bank, you will have access to all passwords and account info,
    not us for payments... security
    I hope this explains it

    Since it is not traditional monetary system some people dont get it,
    but the internet is a whole other game. Clicks are cash

    Female Performer - says
    so i can have access to the account and info thats good . i just
    looked over the site it looks good . so people would mainly take the
    4.95 3 day access i guess. maybe better system than that
    because i think you'd lose out money that way
    so sorry the payment goes to where , then how does it come to me , and
    what % get forwarded to you?

    Erin Javis says
    Typically we get 30%-40% depending on work, and paypal is the most
    successful timely method, you would create an account and all we would
    need is your email address to have it send automatically everytime it
    reaches $100 groups.
    So for example, site makes first $100 you get it in your paypal, then
    it makes another, it goes in your paypal again... end of month you
    just send our 30%-40% and thats it
    shoots for first 3-4 months need to be 4 times a month (1 time a week)
    to ensure correct marketing then it slows to 2 times a month to
    continue steady income

    Female Performer - says
    depending on work? the liz vicious site seems to be registered to
    someone in phoenix. sorry one other question .. i don't understand
    where the payment foes to and how it gets to me
    the webmasters are jayman cash ,usa

    Erin Javis says
    Yes Phoenix is right. Ok so affiliate marketing advertisments goes
    from the ad campaigns to your paypal, you can get your money out by
    setting up bank transfer in paypal
    Yes thats right

    Female Performer - says
    ok so i thought you were the webmasters

    Erin Javis says
    yours will be set as Aus

    Female Performer - says
    that is a sample of your work?

    Erin Javis says
    Each site has its local location as its Whois
    Liz is american
    I thought I mentioned that sorry lol
    all good

    Female Performer - says
    i thought that was a sample of your sites?

    Erin Javis says
    it is. Like I said, you own everything for your own security
    haha

    Female Performer - says
    but it has a different webmaster with a different contract address

    Erin Javis says
    Liz and her boyfriend do all the shoots, its under his webmastering
    and her address.

    Female Performer - says
    with their photos addresses and contact details
    not liz

    Erin Javis says
    You will just have your info, if you chose to

    Female Performer - says
    tom the missus and selena
    are the webmasters
    what ideas have you got on the type of site, which way would you market it

    Erin Javis says
    Well I wanted to ask you if you have a particular niche style, as Liz
    is a alternative girl, which is why she does so well for us
    How would you describe yourself. ?
    girly, bad, alternative? Something that makes you stand out helps

    Female Performer - says
    naturalist naturist nudist.
    outdoorsy will send you footage i have . may be able to use it
    will have to put it on s disk cos the files are too large to put on here

    Erin Javis says
    Oh ok I see sure, perhaps your co-talent could simply get it of you,
    if you cant email through, where in performer town where you?
    So would you consider outdoor shoots, risky locations etc?

    Female Performer - says
    ill post it to you a disk , whats your addy?
    yes i ve got a few spots i m thinking
    i started looking at doing this with someone else , he was a waste of time
    full of shit
    i prefer working with girls than guys ,

    Erin Javis says
    Oh really you know some good locations. Yeah, what is someone else?
    Where they located?

    Female Performer - says
    he owned a bikini lingerie business , he wanted to get into porn
    production he got me to get some girls together for interviews never
    went any further

    Erin Javis says
    Oh that sucks
    performer town needs a better porn industry
    Something needs to be done
    Such potentional
    *potential lol

    Female Performer - says
    he still advertises for girls now still but he is in it for
    cheap thrill of interview , people that scam in this business are fuck
    wits . thats why i am asking alot of questions , you get alot of
    scammers i have so many emails that are just scams
    performer town does nt have a porn scene

    Erin Javis says
    Oh wow, whats the point of just talking ... i don't get it.. why does
    her do it? I understand your need for questions, I am used to it
    Well performer town needs one
    Can I ask you a few performance related questions about your abilities?

    Female Performer - says
    i know i wish i had a copy of the letter i sent out to a few people
    youll like it , ill see if i can email you a copy

    Erin Javis says
    Oh I think you did! :D

    Female Performer - says
    solos easy enuf . hj , i am very dominate lol can u tell

    Erin Javis says
    ok so you prefer not to be dominated in shoots?

    Female Performer - says
    wont go large anal i liek to think it will still work after , i am not
    large in the vaginal canal so i dont really go large , i can squirt
    sometimes
    i am dominate

    Erin Javis says
    ok. Is deepthroat/gag an issue as this is are best profit creator really
    that and anal

    Female Performer - says
    i get a bit takey overy i guess but that might be cos of the person lol

    Erin Javis says
    Ok. But with the right person your fine with not doing that?

    Female Performer - says
    depends on the size , i have to go in a minute to pick up my boy from
    school, whats the address i can send the footage to
    and the contract wanna send it thru so i can send it off
  • PornGreen
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2010
    • 554

    #2
    just sounds like some bullshit artist getting his thrills talking to a porn girl

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    • Failed
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2011
      • 2301

      #3
      Weird! Could be a simple perv getting off on the conversation and possibility of actually meeting this girl, or something far more sinister. Good thing the girl was intelligent enough to catch on before anything happened.
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      • Agent 488
        Registered User
        • Feb 2006
        • 22511

        #4
        why put someone's name in there when they are most likely using a fake name?

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        • 3xTom
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 1610

          #5
          Originally posted by Agent 488
          why put someone's name in there when they are most likely using a fake name?
          I would say if they are using a fake name with her they may be using the same fake name with other girls thats why i left it in as a warning to any girls talking to this Erin person or if someone contacts them with this name.

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          • 3xTom
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2002
            • 1610

            #6
            Originally posted by PornGreen
            just sounds like some bullshit artist getting his thrills talking to a porn girl
            Could very well be... But this isn't an actual porn girl per say.

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            • dropped9
              Registered User
              • Jan 2001
              • 26727

              #7
              that is fucking weird....

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              • Agent 488
                Registered User
                • Feb 2006
                • 22511

                #8
                same person http://www.facebook.com/people/Erin-...400858?sk=wall

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                • CurrentlySober
                  Too lazy to wipe my ass
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 38957

                  #9
                  I would like to move to 'performer town'... Sounds a cool place to live


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                  • fris
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 55701

                    #10
                    its obviously someone on here.
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                    • selena
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 7995

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Agent 488
                      Yep, that is Tom's picture. He uses his "I'm just a sexy girl" routine to lure them in. ;)
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                      • The Heron
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 4496

                        #12
                        The payment part confused me, wtf kind of scam is he trying to run there?

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                        • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                          (felis madjewicus)
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 20368

                          #13
                          Asshole, quit fucking with my mojo! I almost had a new piece in my collection. Back to the drawing boards...

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                          • czarina
                            Webmaster Extraordinaire
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 10752

                            #14
                            just a bored pervert

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                            • Agent 488
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 22511

                              #15
                              plenty of potential raping going on here.

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                              • NaughtyVisions
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2008
                                • 4204

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
                                Asshole, quit fucking with my mojo! I almost had a new piece in my collection. Back to the drawing boards...
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                                • babymaker
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 4751

                                  #17
                                  Sounds like maybe he got her to pay for her own site, one of the girls i been working with had some asshole get her to pay not much at least for a site, bunch of bs.

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                                  • sologirlcontent
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Jan 2007
                                    • 2617

                                    #18
                                    typical on both sides

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