Would it be wrong to terminate affiliates accounts for promoting Torrent supporters?

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  • DWB
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 31779
    #1

    Would it be wrong to terminate affiliates accounts for promoting Torrent supporters?

    If you are one of the program owners who cares about torrent sites and saw that some of your affiliates were also supporting sites (AFF, Fleshlight, Camz and so on...) that promoted these torrents, do you think it would be a shitty thing to do to add to your TERMS that their account could be terminated, and then shut them down?

    I think it would be a great thing to add in your terms.

    Of course many of you are blood sucking scum so I wouldn't expect that from the majority of you, but I know there are a few solid guys left out there.
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    • donkevlar
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2006
      • 4325
      #2
      If you want to cut out 80%+ of the people on this board, sure.

      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=739790
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        • Cyrano
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2006
          • 939
          #3
          That would fall under the "bad business move" category.

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            • DWB
              Registered User
              • Jul 2003
              • 31779
              #4
              Originally posted by donkevlar
              If you want to cut out 80%+ of the people on this board, sure.

              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=739790
              Well, since 80% of the people who sign up for a program don't send a damn sale anyway, it's really only 10% - 20% that do, maybe that is an acceptable loss. Unless of course you lose the whales.

              Originally posted by Cyrano
              That would fall under the "bad business move" category.
              It's sad that our industry is one that if a company or person takes a stand and does the right thing, it is a bad business move. That is why ultimately our industry will be regulated, because we are not capable of doing it ourselves.

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                • SomeCreep
                  :glugglug
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 26118
                  #5
                  Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                  If you are one of the program owners who cares about torrent sites and saw that some of your affiliates were also supporting sites (AFF, Fleshlight, Camz and so on...) that promoted these torrents, do you think it would be a shitty thing to do to add to your TERMS that their account could be terminated, and then shut them down?
                  Uh, no.

                  What you're saying, is like saying, a guy should go to jail, just because his friend is a drug dealer.

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                    • Slap Dot
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 3168
                      #6
                      that's an AWFUL idea.

                      bad business.

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                        • fluffygrrl
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • May 2006
                          • 2187
                          #7
                          The torrents aren't going away. The torrents > the software industry. The software industry >>> adult. If Microsoft can't keep Vista off piratebay (look here) there's nothing you can do to keep busty babes XIX or whatever.

                          Just forget about it. There is no way in heck you can do even as much as a scrach. Play around it.

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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089
                              #8
                              that would be tough to do/enforce

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                                • chodadog
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 9736
                                  #9
                                  SomeCreep hit the nail on the head.

                                  And where would you draw the line? What about a program similar to yours that doesn't take that stand. Should they also be blacklisted because they haven't taken a stand against people who haven't taken a stand? Silly idea.
                                  26 + 6 = 1

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                                    • DWB
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 31779
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Slap Dot
                                      that's an AWFUL idea.

                                      bad business.
                                      Yea... I guess it's better to turn the other way and keep supporting content theft.

                                      99% of you don't have your content stolen, or even shoot your own content, so what do you care? Right?

                                      So you're all right. My bad.

                                      Keep supporting content theft!!!

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                                        • chupacabra
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 3626
                                          #11
                                          do it, make a stand and fuck the 'bros'... if everyone is afraid to stand up to the forces that are destroying our industry soon enough we won't have one..
                                          ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                            • HighSociety
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jun 2005
                                              • 1786
                                              #12
                                              has fleashlight not banned that site? You have to tell them about it first and give them a day to do it, If it is still up let me know and I will gladly remove them from all my sites
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                                                • tony299
                                                  lurker
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 57021
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                  Yea... I guess it's better to turn the other way and keep supporting content theft.

                                                  99% of you don't have your content stolen, or even shoot your own content, so what do you care? Right?

                                                  So you're all right. My bad.

                                                  Keep supporting content theft!!!
                                                  Your right, most dont understand. They dont produce content and dont know the work involved.

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                                                    • RawAlex
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 9465
                                                      #14
                                                      It would be a bad business move.

                                                      However, it might be a reasonable business move to declare yourself "torrent free" and set up procedures for your affilaites to report if your site or content ends up as torrents, which would give you reasons to send out some DCMAs (including to the sponsors on the pages involved).

                                                      Take the high road, explain that you care about your affiliates and you don't want them to face unfair competition, and WITHOUT NAMING THE COMPANIES INVOVLED suggest that dealing with companies that appear on torrent sites is just cutting your own balls off.

                                                      Don't kill your own business just to prove a point - find a way to make it productive and positive for your program.

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                                                        • tolik
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                          • 2035
                                                          #15
                                                          my own viewpoint:

                                                          torrents=warez=stolen content.

                                                          period.
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                                                            • KimJI
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2007
                                                              • 1839
                                                              #16
                                                              Why the hell are people defending people that run torrentsites? I fucking dont get it?

                                                              What SomeCreep said is total bullshit. Its far from the same thing. What he is doing is terminating accounts of people that make money off facilitating the distribution of copyrighted content.

                                                              It pisses me off that people are so fucking naive about this subject


                                                              Yes you should close the account, and let them come running and screaming at you on the boards, will be nice to see them try and defend how they make money off stolen content
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                                                                • chodadog
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                  • 9736
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by KimJI
                                                                  Why the hell are people defending people that run torrentsites? I fucking dont get it?

                                                                  What SomeCreep said is total bullshit. Its far from the same thing. What he is doing is terminating accounts of people that make money off facilitating the distribution of copyrighted content.

                                                                  It pisses me off that people are so fucking naive about this subject


                                                                  Yes you should close the account, and let them come running and screaming at you on the boards, will be nice to see them try and defend how they make money off stolen content
                                                                  Uhh, no. That's not what he was suggesting at all. He's asking whether or not it would be wrong to terminate the account of someone who is supporting a third party who is in turn supporting torrents.

                                                                  So say I promote DirtyWhiteBoy's sites but I also promote Adult Friend Finder and am in no way associated with torrents myself, he's asking if it would right or wrong to terminate my account because I do business with AFF.

                                                                  You think that's fair? Where do you draw the line? Let's say DirtyWhiteBoy decides not to go ahead and do what he's talking about. Should he then be blacklisted by other sponsors because he hasn't taken a stand against affiliates who haven't stopped doing business with the likes of AFF and Fleshlight? And if they did, wouldn't it be rather hypocritical for him to complain about it?
                                                                  26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                    • chodadog
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                      • 9736
                                                                      #18
                                                                      DirtyWhiteBoy, judging by your other thread you're clearly not going to go ahead with this idea. Why not? I imagine because it would have a negative impact on your business? Probably the same reason why those who are still dealing with sponsors like AFF and Fleshlight aren't prepared to take a stand. You cannot possibly criticize others for not ceasing a business relationship that will result in them losing money when you yourself are not prepared to do it.
                                                                      26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                        • KimJI
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2007
                                                                          • 1839
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                          Uhh, no. That's not what he was suggesting at all. He's asking whether or not it would be wrong to terminate the account of someone who is supporting a third party who is in turn supporting torrents.

                                                                          So say I promote DirtyWhiteBoy's sites but I also promote Adult Friend Finder and am in no way associated with torrents myself, he's asking if it would right or wrong to terminate my account because I do business with AFF.

                                                                          You think that's fair? Where do you draw the line? Let's say DirtyWhiteBoy decides not to go ahead and do what he's talking about. Should he then be blacklisted by other sponsors because he hasn't taken a stand against affiliates who haven't stopped doing business with the likes of AFF and Fleshlight? And if they did, wouldn't it be rather hypocritical for him to complain about it?
                                                                          I see, I misread it. you are fight.

                                                                          The scenario is borderline, I would personally send them a warning.
                                                                          The only way you can get AFF and sites like it to stop supporting those sites, is hitting them where it hurts, and that is on the $$$
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                                                                            • KimJI
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2007
                                                                              • 1839
                                                                              #20
                                                                              "you are fight" = you are right

                                                                              Its to damm early in the day for me to type
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                                                                                • DWB
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 31779
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                                  DirtyWhiteBoy, judging by your other thread you're clearly not going to go ahead with this idea. Why not? I imagine because it would have a negative impact on your business? Probably the same reason why those who are still dealing with sponsors like AFF and Fleshlight aren't prepared to take a stand. You cannot possibly criticize others for not ceasing a business relationship that will result in them losing money when you yourself are not prepared to do it.
                                                                                  I didn't say I would not do this. I'm just seeing what others think, if it's fair or going too far. Just because I think it, doesn't mean it's a good idea or the right thing to do.

                                                                                  But the idea of doing this is not far from my mind right now.

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                                                                                    • chodadog
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                      • 9736
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Well then do it or you're no better than the "blood sucking scum" of this industry. Until you're prepared to take the financial hit that you expect others to take, I'd suggest you get down off of your high horse.
                                                                                      26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                                        • matrixxx
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Jun 2007
                                                                                          • 34
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I thini it is the cost of doing business, I know I have encountered a very similar situation in my mainstream pursuits.

                                                                                          A business associate used his media partners (affiliates) as leverage in his situation banding them together instead of losing them, it takes numbers for change to happen.

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                                                                                            • tony299
                                                                                              lurker
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 57021
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                                              It would be a bad business move.

                                                                                              However, it might be a reasonable business move to declare yourself "torrent free" and set up procedures for your affilaites to report if your site or content ends up as torrents, which would give you reasons to send out some DCMAs (including to the sponsors on the pages involved).

                                                                                              Take the high road, explain that you care about your affiliates and you don't want them to face unfair competition, and WITHOUT NAMING THE COMPANIES INVOVLED suggest that dealing with companies that appear on torrent sites is just cutting your own balls off.

                                                                                              Don't kill your own business just to prove a point - find a way to make it productive and positive for your program.
                                                                                              excellent post

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