It's harder to shoot porn today than it was back in the old days.

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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #766
    Of course all those who would rather have something ordinary to market, sell or own. That costs more to produce can disagree with me. LOL



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    • Agent 488
      Registered User
      • Feb 2006
      • 22511

      #767
      no one cares any more. this thread has jumped the shark.

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      • Robbie
        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
        • Aug 2002
        • 20960

        #768
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        Upping the technical quality of your porn is something anyone can do. That's one of the reasons so many sites have the same to similar quality of content. Anyone can buy the latest camera, good lights and learn how to use them. Upping the PORN quality of porn is a lot harder.

        It needs a shooter who can operate a model/models. Knows how to direct them, knows how to pull the best out of them and knows which ones to shoot and which ones are a waste of time. No matter how good your equipment is a crap scene is a crap scene even if it's shot on equipment more at home in a Hollywood studio.

        Then there's the task of knowing angles, how and where to shoot, looking at a scene prior to shooting and seeing the problems, like not shooting a 3 girl lesbian scene in a room too small for it and the bed with a large bedstead at the bottom of the bed that will hide the action and distract the viewer.

        Knowing not to shoot countless pictures all the same, not to have girls in a couple scene grinning into the camera time after time, using the image set as a way to get the models or models into what they're going to do on video or even bond and warm up each other. Also good at showing the models the positions for the video.

        Then when the shooter shoots is it shows him what to do on the video, the problems he might come up with, the angles he needs to cover, the shots he needs to get and how to construct the video scene.
        Those are the things I believe I have a firm grasp for.

        And I have the equipment too. I think where I'm at now is adding the off camera mic on the boom. And being more careful to NOT catch my light stands in the shot when I get carried away shooting different angles and get caught up in the scene.

        I've always been a big believer in NOT shooting 400 pictures of a scene. I HATE it when a shooter just clicks away and it looks like you could hold the pictures in your hand and flip through them and it would be animated. lol The model moves 1/4 inch CLICK, the model moves another 1/4 inch CLICK! lol

        I've always made sure to make each photo a completely different composition based on what the target audience is looking for.

        I think you're 100% on about that. And the shooting a 30 minute scene when 20 minutes is what it should be. I think one of the differences between what I do and what others do is I let the scene dictate the length of the scene itself.

        We try to keep the sex as "real" as possible without making a big deal of getting "x amount of minutes in one position and x amount in the next position" so the sex actually flows. Which I think is an advantage we have.

        If it's a hot sex scene in 20 minutes so be it. If it's a 45 minute fuck-a-thon....again, so be it.
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        • ReggieDurango
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2007
          • 4784

          #769
          Originally posted by Agent 488
          no one cares any more. this thread has jumped the shark.
          Wow, I find myself finally agreeing with this guy!
          Fabian, come back and set Paul on his path!

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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #770
            Originally posted by Robbie
            Those are the things I believe I have a firm grasp for.

            And I have the equipment too. I think where I'm at now is adding the off camera mic on the boom. And being more careful to NOT catch my light stands in the shot when I get carried away shooting different angles and get caught up in the scene.

            I've always been a big believer in NOT shooting 400 pictures of a scene. I HATE it when a shooter just clicks away and it looks like you could hold the pictures in your hand and flip through them and it would be animated. lol The model moves 1/4 inch CLICK, the model moves another 1/4 inch CLICK! lol

            I've always made sure to make each photo a completely different composition based on what the target audience is looking for.

            I think you're 100% on about that. And the shooting a 30 minute scene when 20 minutes is what it should be. I think one of the differences between what I do and what others do is I let the scene dictate the length of the scene itself.

            We try to keep the sex as "real" as possible without making a big deal of getting "x amount of minutes in one position and x amount in the next position" so the sex actually flows. Which I think is an advantage we have.

            If it's a hot sex scene in 20 minutes so be it. If it's a 45 minute fuck-a-thon....again, so be it.
            I agree with you about letting the scene, which usually means the girl, dictate the length of the scene. Anyone who sets the length over long like Manwin does is clueless. Very very few solo scenes are worth 30 minutes. The girls just don't have enough personality to carry it off. Hardcore can go that long but it's rare it needs to go further. If you can't get a guy up and off in 20 to 25 minutes then you won't get him off in 30 to 40 minutes. I've offered before, if you want an appraisal of your content hit me up on ICQ.

            Like the number of stills it's this belief that quantity is so important that makes people think like this. Sites adding too much mediocre content when for the same money they could add less but better content.



            ReggieDurango I think Fabian has got scared or changed his mind. I questioned this clause .

            1. You agree to deliver the Work to Reimsberg in a timely fashion and in a manner and form satisfactory to both quality and creativity.
            He won't stipulate what a timely factor is and letting him or his company decide what a "form satisfactory to both quality and creativity" is. Leaves me open to him saying it's not acceptable go and shoot it again. And again and again.

            He said he wouldn't come to Czech to sue me, but won't put that in the contract and won't promise not to ask me to shoot is again.

            My agreeing to this means me giving my word. That obligates me.

            Shame as I was really looking forward to shooting it. Had got a couple of models in mind, spoken to someone about equipment and I planned to shoot it in a hotel we've used.

            So the big contest has gone down the plug hole.

            Agent, no one has replied to my last posts because they don't have a reply. I've made similar points before and got the stupidest of answers. Like "I couldn't be asked." "Was making so much money I didn't need to." Which means "I didn't want to earn more money.

            So cutting there content budget, raising the level of the content and giving the job of content to a skilled person, was something they weren't interested in.

            Go tell their affiliates that.
            Last edited by Paul Markham; 03-21-2011, 01:18 PM.



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            • Agent 488
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 22511

              #771
              like watching a broken record spinning. this thread sucks. mods lock this shit up.

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              • Robbie
                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                • Aug 2002
                • 20960

                #772
                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                Go tell their affiliates that.
                By running all there tube sites with everybodies members areas in them they destroyed most of their affiliates already. None of us have any traffic to use to promote anymore. All the surfers are at Pornhub enjoying free full scenes

                I can't make a sale on Jug Cash to save my soul.
                Last edited by Robbie; 03-21-2011, 02:35 PM.
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                • BVF
                  Black Vagina Finder
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 13975

                  #773
                  Originally posted by Agent 488
                  like watching a broken record spinning. this thread sucks. mods lock this shit up.
                  Yep...I called this BS pages and pages ago....NOBODY will do anything except type even more pages and pages of theories and arguments.

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                  • Robbie
                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20960

                    #774
                    Hey guys I have a great theory that I'd like to argue and....DOH!

                    Originally posted by BVF
                    NOBODY will do anything except type even more pages and pages of theories and arguments.
                    -Robbie
                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                    • justinsain
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 3374

                      #775
                      Originally posted by Paul Markham

                      ReggieDurango I think Fabian has got scared or changed his mind. I questioned this clause .

                      He won't stipulate what a timely factor is and letting him or his company decide what a "form satisfactory to both quality and creativity" is. Leaves me open to him saying it's not acceptable go and shoot it again. And again and again.
                      It would be nice if a shooter that is currently working or is familiar with contracts speak up as to whether the clause Paul has stated above is either normal, standard operating procedure or is unusual, suspect and unreasonable as Paul believes.

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                      • Jim_Gunn
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 5702

                        #776
                        Originally posted by justinsain
                        It would be nice if a shooter that is currently working or is familiar with contracts speak up as to whether the clause Paul has stated above is either normal, standard operating procedure or is unusual, suspect and unreasonable as Paul believes.
                        I don't understand the problem now either. Didn't Fabian already offer to pay Paul in advance, give him very loose guidelines and accept whatever content was shot, even if it was awful, lol? This really is a joke at this point. I could have shot six of these kind of shoots in the time that was spent so far pontificating and parsing the language of the contract.

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                        • BVF
                          Black Vagina Finder
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 13975

                          #777
                          Originally posted by Paul Markham

                          ReggieDurango I think Fabian has got scared or changed his mind. I questioned this clause .



                          He won't stipulate what a timely factor is and letting him or his company decide what a "form satisfactory to both quality and creativity" is. Leaves me open to him saying it's not acceptable go and shoot it again. And again and again.
                          No....What I, and what a lot of other people are starting to realize what you're selling:



                          Also, who is to say that you won't deliver them some BS and give them the finger just to say that you fucked over some pirates?...Who here would give a fuck and hold you accountable for that if you did it?

                          JUST SHOOT THE FUCKING SCENE YOU OLD LYING BASTARD!
                          Last edited by BVF; 03-21-2011, 04:34 PM.

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                          • INever
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 4030

                            #778
                            Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                            I don't understand the problem now either. Didn't Fabian already offer to pay Paul in advance, give him very loose guidelines and accept whatever content was shot, even if it was awful, lol? This really is a joke at this point. I could have shot six of these kind of shoots in the time that was spent so far pontificating and parsing the language of the contract.

                            A lot of people would have done 6 semi-exclusive shoots for the amount of money being paid for one.
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                            • FlexxAeon
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2003
                              • 3765

                              #779
                              i expected some scene samples by now. what the shit have y'all been doing?!
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                              • Robbie
                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20960

                                #780
                                Winning!
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                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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