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06-09-2007, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

split_joel, I have no idea about prices on food in the country where you live, but here in Moscow it would be absolutely crazy idea to go to an expensive restaurant with a lady knowing that you have only $300 daily limit on a card...

If it's the same ClaimJumper we have in Vegas which is a nationwide chain, it's far from expensive. We're talking maybe $20-$30 a meal on avg. Plenty of room for a $300 limit.

On a side note, only use Epass as an ATM card. Anything else is asking for embarrassment. Like Juicy and others have said, AMEX is the way to go. Hell, even with a platinum, you can avoid lines by calling your personal concierge ahead of time to get you in front of the lines.

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06-09-2007, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

I guess I'm cheap. No fucking way I spend nearly $300 on a date.

Neither would he, but he just likes to brag.

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06-09-2007, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by DamageX

Neither would he, but he just likes to brag.

He never said he spent $300. He said his card was declined when he knew he had enough to cover it.

The CR said there was a $300 limit and he told her that should not even be an issue.

Unless I missed something, I don't see him ever saying how much he spent.
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06-09-2007, 03:50 PM

I love ePassporte, it's a quick way to filter OUT prospective business relationships. Any entity that depends on ePass to conduct day-to-day business is most likely one heartbeat away from some kind of disaster anyway.
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06-09-2007, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by baddog

He never said he spent $300. He said his card was declined when he knew he had enough to cover it.

The CR said there was a $300 limit and he told her that should not even be an issue.

Unless I missed something, I don't see him ever saying how much he spent.

You definitely missed something, since I wasn't referring to Joel in my reply.

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06-09-2007, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by DamageX

Neither would he, but he just likes to brag.

You said brag? Welcome to Moscow then! About 2 years ago I was in sushi bar with one foreign adult movie producer (he has shooting some videos here). He said me that average price on sushi in NY is 3 times cheaper than here. Actually that was just a regular sushi bar but not some expensive one. That's just an example. The last time I was in restaurant (http://www.tinkoff.ru/en/?p=restorans_moscow_eng which is not cheap but it's also far not most expensive one) with other webmasters, we left there about 5K rubles each (FYI: $1 is about 26 rubles). So what could happen if I'll be there with a lady? It's not a bragging it's just fuckin' Moscow prices.

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06-09-2007, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Eric

I could not agree with you more on this one Juice... Guys why are you using epassporte to pay for things like this. Get a CC that will give you rewards points and get free shit. Then everytime you have money transfered to your epassporte card transfer it to your bank account and pay the bill at the end of each month.

also tax time i like the reports amex gives you and shit

i only use epass for atm withdrawals
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06-09-2007, 04:27 PM

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06-09-2007, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

You said brag? Welcome to Moscow then! About 2 years ago I was in sushi bar with one foreign adult movie producer (he has shooting some videos here). He said me that average price on sushi in NY is 3 times cheaper than here. Actually that was just a regular sushi bar but not some expensive one. That's just an example. The last time I was in restaurant (http://www.tinkoff.ru/en/?p=restorans_moscow_eng which is not cheap but it's also far not most expensive one) with other webmasters, we left there about 5K rubles each (FYI: $1 is about 26 rubles). So what could happen if I'll be there with a lady? It's not a bragging it's just fuckin' Moscow prices.

Wanna know more about a living-cost in Moscow? Ask CNN: http://money.cnn.com/2006/06/23/pf/expensive_cities/

"In Moscow, the apartment will run you $3,000, the coffee $5.27, the paper $3.40, and the burger with fries $3.87."

damn, $5 for a coffee?!

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06-09-2007, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by woj

"In Moscow, the apartment will run you $3,000, the coffee $5.27, the paper $3.40, and the burger with fries $3.87."

damn, $5 for a coffee?!

Actually that was 1-year old info (June 26 2006: 10:00 AM EDT). The prices here are rising like crazy

P.S. I don't eat burgers with fries because I used to care of my health

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06-09-2007, 05:16 PM

As said Ozzy Osbourne when he was here on May 27th: "I was in Moscow in 1998, and it has changed alot since that time". I have to agree with the old dude - it became an absolutely different city from both good and bad points of view. Sorry for the offtopic however

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06-09-2007, 05:56 PM

I thought this was about ePassporte, who gives a fucking rat's ass about Moscow?

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06-09-2007, 06:02 PM

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06-09-2007, 06:32 PM

Would you komrades shut up about the price of tofurkey in Moscow? Fuck.

Over here in the center of the universe known as N. America a good meal at a high-end restaurant runs us about $30-$50 a meal. Add in a good bottle of wine and appetizers and you're looking at $150-$200 with tip.

What all that has to do with epass I don't know, other than it doesn't exceed their limit.

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06-09-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by CDSmith

Would you komrades shut up about the price of tofurkey in Moscow? Fuck.

Over here in the center of the universe known as N. America a good meal at a high-end restaurant runs us about $30-$50 a meal. Add in a good bottle of wine and appetizers and you're looking at $150-$200 with tip.

What all that has to do with epass I don't know, other than it doesn't exceed their limit.

How do you say STFU in Russian?

but it beats discussing that epassporte isn't very reliable, it's hardly news...

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06-09-2007, 06:49 PM

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06-09-2007, 07:05 PM

I just got this message on a cam girl pay-out.

It looks as though ePassporte is about to bite the dust, I wired them money on Monday, it still hasn?t posted and I don?t think it?s going to. In any event I can not afford to use them for payroll and I strongly suggest if you?re accepting sales through them to withdraw your funds from ATM daily, do not request a check or a bank transfer.

We have our own Visa payment cards that will be using to pay our Girls. They are very similar to ePassporte or any other Visa card.

Annual Fee (includes initial card issue) is $15.00 (ePassporte is $17.50 per year)

Statement on-line can be viewed at

https://www.payment-card.com/

Load fee is $2.50 (ePassporte is $5.00 PER HUNDRED or any part thereof)
ATM Withdrawal fee:

Domestic $2.00

Foreign $6.00

Does not include surcharges issued by ATM owners.

There is also an inactivity and Expired Card monthly fee of $3.00 per month

(We are trying to get this fee waved)

Those of you who would like to use this payment method please contact me.

Doesn't matter much to me, since it was like pulling teeth to get guys to pay using epassporte, but I used it alot to play online poker.
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06-09-2007, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

split_joel, I have no idea about prices on food in the country where you live, but here in Moscow it would be absolutely crazy idea to go to an expensive restaurant with a lady knowing that you have only $300 daily limit on a card...

Isn't $300us like a months salary for most people in Russia?

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#69

06-09-2007, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by suesheboy

Tick tock tick tock.

Bottom line. I use Amex and in more than 22 years never 1 decline or not working and when I have a dispute they fix it and when I broke an $800 toilet I bought on the card they sent me a check for the full amount in under a week.

Love the cash back (up to 4%) too. Just think of all of the bank interest I earned in 22 years.

Don't leave home without it

PS the Epass card is awesome to scrape dog shit off shoes.

American express is actually worse when it comes to that. Amex does random "Financial Reviews" in which they deactivate your cards are require you to fax/mail in your financial information for them to review. Imagine what would happen if you were off in Paris on vacation and that went down?
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06-10-2007, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by Masterchief

American express is actually worse when it comes to that. Amex does random "Financial Reviews" in which they deactivate your cards are require you to fax/mail in your financial information for them to review. Imagine what would happen if you were off in Paris on vacation and that went down?

They only do financial reviews if you happen to be carrying a very large balance one month and are trying to charge more, and they don't require you to fax in anything. I had them do this to me once when I had a ton of business expenses charged on my card that my employer was reimbursing, and it was so far out of my spending pattern it was ridiculous. They only ask for updated information on your finances and they give you instant approval to continue charging. I think it took me all of 10 minutes to complete it.

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06-10-2007, 03:05 AM

I never use my epass card for anything else then simply atm withdraw.I think ideal situation will be to withdraw money to bank account and that's it.
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06-10-2007, 03:20 AM

Ouch. I really rely on epassporte, I got more than 11k in there. :/

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06-10-2007, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by Emil

Ouch. I really rely on epassporte, I got more than 11k in there. :/

I have never had any problems with epass they have been awesome for me but damm! I would not be stupid enough to leave 11k in a online account, I would certainly wirer transfer that

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06-10-2007, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by stev0

Isn't $300us like a months salary for most people in Russia?

Who was talking about whole Russia?

Now about epassporte. I never had any serious issues with them. They were always working fine for us. However I wouldn't use their card for anything excepting ATM withdraws and p2p transfers to pay for content and other services.

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06-10-2007, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by CDSmith

Over here in the center of the universe known as N. America a good meal at a high-end restaurant runs us about $30-$50 a meal. Add in a good bottle of wine and appetizers and you're looking at $150-$200 with tip.

Who cares about "the center of the universe known as N. America"? We were talking about epassporte card with $300 on it. I just said I won't rely on it (epically with such a low daily limit) if I decided to visit a restaurant with a lady. Anything else was posted as a reply to a comment about "bragging".

It's a really bad situation what epassporte support was unable to handle with that situation. There is no single doubt about it, and I really sorry for split_joel. I also respect Michael O., and I know he is very good in resolving various issues. However epassporte have a shitload of account holders, but Michael is just a single person who can't be online/on phone all the time to help us with our problems. So it's just confirms the known thing: Use epass card for ATM withdraw only. How many cases to need to understand that simple rule?

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06-10-2007, 05:13 AM

EPASS SUCKS!!

The telephone support never follows up with promised emails and then they blame someone else! They should get their heads out of their asses...fuck them!

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06-10-2007, 05:27 AM

its some new level pr campaign for epass ?

you folks so fuckign stupid its amazing

so, you take atm card when you have a dinner with your wife and blame epass for your impotency ?

god dayam , this is funny.
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06-10-2007, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by HighEnergy

I love ePassporte, it's a quick way to filter OUT prospective business relationships. Any entity that depends on ePass to conduct day-to-day business is most likely one heartbeat away from some kind of disaster anyway.

thus it was written, thus is the truth.
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06-10-2007, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Who cares about "the center of the universe known as N. America"? We were talking about epassporte card with $300 on it. I just said I won't rely on it (epically with such a low daily limit) if I decided to visit a restaurant with a lady. Anything else was posted as a reply to a comment about "bragging".

Well if you'd bothered to read the posts before mine you'd know why I posted that.

No one gets my brand of humor.

Originally posted by cyberxxx

It's a really bad situation what epassporte support was unable to handle with that situation. There is no single doubt about it, and I really sorry for split_joel. I also respect Michael O., and I know he is very good in resolving various issues. However epassporte have a shitload of account holders, but Michael is just a single person who can't be online/on phone all the time to help us with our problems. So it's just confirms the known thing: Use epass card for ATM withdraw only. How many cases to need to understand that simple rule?

It should be obvious from my page 1 post that I agree with all of that.

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06-10-2007, 09:36 AM

One thing I don't understand is some people came in here claiming only use the cards as they are intended. Like for ATM withdrawals only. Uuum unless I'm missing some key element, couldn't having the words "Make purchases at millions of retail locations where Visa is accepted" on their front page qualify as an intended use? Personally I think that argument is silly <--- note the understatement.

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06-10-2007, 09:43 AM

1) i can't believe someone bragged about taking a chick to Claim Jumper and referred to it as a "nice restaurant"

2) i can't believe someone that does nothing but rail against epassporte takes girls on dates and has NO WAY TO PAY FOR ANYTHING except for an epassporte card.

3) how can you not have another debit card at least in your wallet? credit cards?

4) i feel bad for the girlfriend.

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06-10-2007, 09:53 AM

If i want to pay at a restaurant with Epass i ask them to check my card first. If it doesnt work then i know to pay with cash after im done eating. Not exactly rocket science. But since your posts in a 911 thread recently i have the feeling youre not the exactly brightest person in your family Joel. And this this only confirms it.
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06-10-2007, 10:47 AM

you went to a restaurant with a $300 limit on your card and NO CASH?

hahaha, what moron
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06-10-2007, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Dirty Franck

If i want to pay at a restaurant with Epass i ask them to check my card first.

Epassporte cards are good for only two things: to withdraw cash from ATM and to make coke lines.

If you're using it for anything else, you're an idiot.

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06-10-2007, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by You Forgot Poland

Epassporte cards are good for only two things: to withdraw cash from ATM and to make coke lines.

What's about p2p transfers btw?

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06-10-2007, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by thunder99

Murphys Law:

He who carries one card and no cash when trying to impress lady friends, will end up feeling like a fool.

Happened me a couple of times (not with epassporte though), cards wont work, machines are broken... now I always carry a credit card, bank card and a little bit of cash.

Very well said. I personally always keep cash and at least 3 cards (including ePassporte one) always in my wallet.

split_joel, dude don't you know we cannot totally rely on epass like you did? It was your mistake to rely on an unreliable.

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Again I apologize for the way the CS rep handled the situation.

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06-10-2007, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by DamageX

The card is intended for SWIPE use too. Your point is moot.

Yes, that's the "intention", but the real world is different. I was just advising how to use it problem-free.

Originally posted by DamageX

Just curious, for all of you saying you should carry several cards and cash, is it such a ridiculous thought to expect Epassporte to be RELIABLE?

Do you have any other cards issued from foreign countries? The reliability is similar to using other debit cards from carribbean banks.
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06-10-2007, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Vlad

its some new level pr campaign for epass ?

you folks so fuckign stupid its amazing

so, you take atm card when you have a dinner with your wife and blame epass for your impotency ?

god dayam , this is funny.

Are you fucking stupid, or did you not read the thread? Regardless, this card is to be accepted where visa is expected, on top of that I have used this same card there before and it has worked you fucking moron.

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06-10-2007, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

1) i can't believe someone bragged about taking a chick to Claim Jumper and referred to it as a "nice restaurant"

2) i can't believe someone that does nothing but rail against epassporte takes girls on dates and has NO WAY TO PAY FOR ANYTHING except for an epassporte card.

3) how can you not have another debit card at least in your wallet? credit cards?

4) i feel bad for the girlfriend.

wow

Once again another sign of an idiot who doesn't read. You know I am not the richest person in the world, I am a fucking computer tech, the people that keep servers online, which makes most of you people rich. To my girlfriend and I Claim Jumper is a very nice restaurant. Also I stated in my view I thought epassporte was doing bettering, and on top of that I have used my card there before. Also there is a reason I do not carry cash on me you fucking moron, so stop acting like your all better then me because you can afford the best restaurants and can carry cash.

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06-10-2007, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by split_joel

Are you fucking stupid, or did you not read the thread? Regardless, this card is to be accepted where visa is expected, on top of that I have used this same card there before and it has worked you fucking moron.

Visa Electron is not the same as just Visa. Are you fucking stupid?
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06-10-2007, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Franck

Visa Electron is not the same as just Visa. Are you fucking stupid?

LOL dude are you fucking stupid or just retarded? Did you not read the part where I said my card had been accepted there before?

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06-10-2007, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Franck

Visa Electron is not the same as just Visa. Are you fucking stupid?

VISA Electron is a debit card and as such accepted for swipe use pretty much everywhere a regular VISA card is accepted.

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06-10-2007, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by split_joel

LOL dude are you fucking stupid or just retarded? Did you not read the part where I said my card had been accepted there before?

No you fucking imbecile fuck, im talking about this:

Originally posted by split_joel

Regardless, this card is to be accepted where visa is expected

Im not gonna ask you again im gonna tell you: You are fucking stupid.

Bitching and crying and in the meantime making a fool of yourself.
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06-10-2007, 02:42 PM

BTW Visa Electron is accepted anywhere Visa is accepted, the only difference is there has to be a set number to charge to the card, hence why popping your card into the outside machine for pumping gas does not work. As long as there is an amount your being charged for and they take visa it will work YOU FUCKING MORON.

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06-10-2007, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by DamageX

VISA Electron is a debit card and as such accepted for swipe use pretty much everywhere a regular VISA card is accepted.

Maybe pretty much everywhere but not 100% everywhere.

You simply cant use an epass card 100% like a real cc.

And i you do rely on it like that you will get situations like the imbecile thread starter.
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06-10-2007, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by fuzebox

Do you have any other cards issued from foreign countries? The reliability is similar to using other debit cards from carribbean banks.

As a matter of fact, I do. NEVER had a problem with those. In fact, I remember using one of them once when my Epass card wasn't accepted.

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06-10-2007, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Franck

Maybe pretty much everywhere but not 100% everywhere.

You simply cant use an epass card 100% like a real cc.

Of course not, you can only use it in places which accept it and you can't spend more than you have in the account.

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06-10-2007, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by split_joel

BTW Visa Electron is accepted anywhere Visa is accepted, the only difference is there has to be a set number to charge to the card, hence why popping your card into the outside machine for pumping gas does not work. As long as there is an amount your being charged for and they take visa it will work YOU FUCKING MORON.

Funny, you call ME the moron yet YOU were looking like a fucking ass with a non working VISA ELECTON card in some cheap ass restaurant

Now youre claiming it works everywhere. Hmm odd how you made this thread then jackass.
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06-10-2007, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Franck

Funny, you call ME the moron yet YOU were looking like a fucking ass with a non working VISA ELECTON card in some cheap ass restaurant

Now youre claiming it works everywhere. Hmm odd how you made this thread then jackass.

It does work everywhere, like i said its worked there before. Now if there is an error on epassporte side that has nothing to do with the restaurant not accepting it, it has to do with an error on epassportes side.

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06-10-2007, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by split_joel

It does work everywhere, like i said its worked there before. Now if there is an error on epassporte side that has nothing to do with the restaurant not accepting it, it has to do with an error on epassportes side.

Listen dude, you rely on epass as a real cc and this is what happens. YOU are the stupid one here, like many other people in this thread also said.

Now get over it and stop crying.
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