It's harder to shoot porn today than it was back in the old days.

Video views maybe then.

We will release an official contest in the coming weeks, stay tuned for the press release.

If anybody can enter, I just might have to fuck with this..

Ok, I'll hit you up tomorrow and stuff!

the marketing potential for this is juicy. I would not let just gfy vote. This would play better on the tubes, sort of an american idol of porn. The winners get contracts and their flicks can be seen on a paysite. Let's see what manwin can do with it.

Arguing about WHAT?...You wanted to get the money up front...He's giving you the money up front...How complicated can it be to pay somebody to get a naked girl in front of a camera to masturbate?

the old man is chickening out.

Great idea! Let's all just GIVE those thieves some more brand new content! AWESOME!

And then make it a big contest on PornHub and the rest of Manwin's tubes to make them even more branded!

But you got one part wrong...the winners get contracts and their flicks can be seen by a handful of people on Manwin's paysites...and by MILLIONS of people on pirate sites for free.

It sure sucks that the company that has helped hurt the income of so many shooters now has them begging to give them even more content for free.

I don't blame the guys. They need to put food on the table and are praying to get hired by Manwin. It's just a sad thing to see.

At least Fabian is showing that he does indeed have some very real talent. The talent to silence his critics. He's doing it with DWB by buying him his own ads on ThePirateBay and he's doing it to content shooters by putting the companies who used to hire them out of business and then having a "contest" where they can now dance and sing for his entertainment.

I can see now how Fabian was able to talk the real owners of Manwin into putting him in his position. It is impressive.

Just glad I don't have to dance to his tune. He's meaningless to me. His bosses don't have enough money to afford me. I make too much all on my own.

Good luck though to all of you guys shooting your big scene. And congrats to all of you who are breathlessly waiting to see who "wins"
The only smart guy in this whole fucking thread is Markham. He's getting paid and paid well.

Am I the only one shocked at how many people now WANT to do business with Manwin.

Nope. I am shocked and sickened by it myself. But they have no choice. They didn't take action when piracy first started. Now they are fucked and their income is not what it needs to be.

So they are now ready to throw themselves at Fabian.

And just like happened a couple of years ago...they are reacting instead of being proactive.
Manwin is really just one new copyright law and treaty away from going back to being a small company again in porn.

I mean, you shouldn't be shocked - manwin's a whole new company now with new ownership... they seem much more industry-friendly

Robbie, I agree with you 100%. The damage is done, however. You've figured out how to protect CM, but most others haven't. Manwin is going to steal IP until someone stops them. People like us giving them the finger on a forum only provides entertainment for nathan/fabian. He doesn't fucking care because he is making bank.

You can also call nathan/fabian many things, but stupid is not one of them. The guy couldn't beat TPB so he is trying to advertise there. I actually think it's stupid to advertise where people can get the same shit for free, but what do I know. The point is that IF some porn makers can make bank with manwin they would be foolish not to. Either sell it to them or have it stolen; or become bartenders.

I have quit selling altogether and am just shooting for my own site now. And to be honest, I probably would never work with manwin because I don't need to. But I am really interested in seeing people do their best work, maybe learn something about what a good porn product should look like. I am even interested to see what I can do if I tried to make a really good fuck flick.

So do I think nathan/fabian is a fucking scab-leach-vulture?. Abso-fucking-lutely. Does that change my interest in this concept? Nope.

Fabian, For Real, Player, why don't you just BUY TPB??? - those fuckers ain't sellin?

BTW, Paul, Fabian, JustDavexxx, Cherry, and all the rest who are enjoying this thread (even YOU Robbie), please help me in my similar thread battle with block-heads!:
http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1014170&page=2

Post #81 pretty much sums it up (at least the bottom of that post - though i think you will enjoy the top of it! Who is this GatorB(itch) CLOWN anyway???)

The point of the thread is that good content is really the best hope for the industry, yet block-heads and ignoramous fucks on this board are virtually impossible to coerce into actually WATCHING the content they are promoting!! It's bonkers! I actually got in a fight with one affiliate MANAGER on ICQ (as I discuss in post #81) who was insisting that as part of his job he doesn't have to watch the content!!! AND he was questioning MY motives!! I was like, I directed and edited these scenes, and I'm proud of them, and my real end game is simply to get as many views on these (in my mind) high-quality scenes as possible! I know I probably won't get affiliate referrals, which proves I don't have much to gain from this financially... I just want honest viewers to enjoy (or not enjoy, but at least consider enjoying) my porno "art".
I'd like to continue this debate over quality-compelling content in that thread - so come on down! Agent 488 I know YOU'VE already been there - meany!!!!
http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1014170&page=2

Thus those in this thread who seem to actually care about the content itself, please assist with the debate! I think that is what unites us in this thread! Paul, that is why you and Fabian VERY well might be friends some day! Let us unite! Lets us destroy the true haters: those that don't give a FUCK about the content.
Everyone here is encouraged to go to the thread ( again http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1014170&page=2 ) and post a review of one of my scenes I did for Pimproll. Paul, I would LOVE you personally to review one of these in your style on that thread! I'd owe you Paul, dog, plus I think you guys should like the content. It's all comedy porn - so if you don't like humor porn don't watch - but if you DO watch I encourage any and all to post your own reviews or responses or criticisms on the other thread. Here are the three scenes:
http://www.porn.com/porn-video/faye-...ani-95836.html
http://www.porn.com/porn-video/fanbo...uck-95837.html
http://www.porn.com/porn-video/tia-c...rth-95838.html

EVEN if you guys post negative reviews, I still would highly appreciate your honest opinions!

DUDE!!! STOP!! JUST STOP!!

I dont know you and im not here to attack you, but i have read your posts about various things. I have also read your thread "on Promote PimpRoll under your IDl" Where PR Dave Wrote;


Its also funny how you tried to infer that you shot the MileyXXX video. I know who it was and thats because i call that person friend and we are always brainstorming ideas and concepts. But I knew PR Dave would jump in and set the record straight. And he did.




You are really pissing everyone off. You also talk about things that you know nothing about. Even if you are the best shooter on the net, nobody will ever want to see what you got or wire you money, because you sound like a drug using nut job.

You quote your self 20 times in a single thread, you create spam threads and you bring one thread subject into another with out any rhyme or reason.


Im not here to insult you or pee in your Cherios, but you need to cut this shit out. You come off as a "Batt Shit Crazy" person with no concept of board etiquette.


I'm not going to say that you suck or your work sucks, but if you are proud of your work make a thread and post your work in that thread.


As i see it you are trying to "thread Jack" a 13 page thread that you really have no business being in. That is rude, disrespectful to everyone in this thread and is one good way to piss everyone off.


Hope you take what I say as constructive and as roadmap on how to act and not act on this board.