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LOL yeah I am sure that is what happened with pirate bay and the other torrent sites. Pirate bay signed up, took some code and added it to their site. AVN knew nothing about this
while they were at it they hacked avn's server and built that page you see on adbrite that promotes them selling piratebay traffic.
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LOL yeah I am sure that is what happened with pirate bay and the other torrent sites. Pirate bay signed up, took some code and added it to their site. AVN knew nothing about this while they were at it they hacked avn's server and built that page you see on adbrite that promotes them selling piratebay traffic.
The fucked up thing is that some people will believe that when AVN use it as a excuse. Some people who call themselves webmasters have no idea how much attention a site with that amount of traffic gets. The person that landed the deal with those Pirats must have been jumping up and down in his seat with joy, and probably still do. They will properly remove them from their database at some point, but they will only do it at the last moment.Trafficadept | Best traffic I have ever tested | web "@t" cuul.orgComment
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Bump for AVN! I would like to see them resolve this situation in an affiliate friendly fashion.
Barring that I wonder what the mainstream press would make of a story like this one, about a company that has
at least until now been generally considered an industry leader.
Hopefully it is only a matter of time until the torrent sites are so overcome with spam and malware that surfers will stop using them. Hmm I wonder if there is any way to speed up that process.
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I don't read or post on any other boards but I know others here do, maybe if this gets spread around other boards aswell, something might be done about itComment
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I think that this thread is the total proof of AVN's arrogance and total lack of regard for the online business. We are but a profit center, nothing more, nothing less.
We are treated like mushrooms - kept in the dark and fed shit.Comment
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No such thing. The "industry leader" AVN has a history of fucking over everyone in the industry for an extra buck any chance they get. Isn't it about time they got dethroned? This would be the perfect opportunity to do so.
Good point. Anyone got any contacts with mainstream press so they can run a story?
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Will - all that stuff you mention is automated....its approved automatically and there is no human oversight.LOL yeah I am sure that is what happened with pirate bay and the other torrent sites. Pirate bay signed up, took some code and added it to their site. AVN knew nothing about this while they were at it they hacked avn's server and built that page you see on adbrite that promotes them selling piratebay traffic.
i'm not saying they haven't been informed of the situation. they've got to be full aware what their highest traffic advertisers are doing...my point is that any site can be listed there with no restrictions, rules, etc...Comment
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Adbrite screwed me over, they obviously employ people who click on their ads all day, I was having hundreds of clicks on my site a day, but they weren't staying more than 1 second, and they were from countries all over the world, so I stopped my campaign with them and never looked backComment
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Back to the top. Fuck AVN and every other company who funds torrent sites.Comment
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http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=52286
AVN ADS Pirate bay ads for sale. So when you pulling it ?
All this avn ads / adbrite talk has me so confused and the two companies are so intermingled, I can't remember which one does adult or mainstream and which was was orginally selling pirate bay.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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And of course the spot is still being advertised.
Not that it surprises me any, just FYI.
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Should I let AVN know that this adbrite person is trying to hijack my browser so they can report him to the authorities?
Probably another Russian* hacker!
*(Natasha if you are reading this, I still love you and I didn't mean to imply all Russians are bad and I look forward to meeting you soon as it has been almost a year now since I sent you the $30,000 for your ticket but I haven't heard from you since
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Last edited by DamageX; 06-05-2007, 12:51 PM.Whitehat is for chumps
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Whitehat is for chumps
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can you say OWNED !
Talk about getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar and trying to BS your way out of it ..
Note to AVN and Staff It didn't work for Bill Clinton it's NOT! Going to Work for you Either .Comment
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i cant beleve that more people here and the higherups are not pissed about this .Comment
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when you have an idea you want to share, forget about it&keep your mouth shut.
They are most certainly NOT owned, co-owned, operated, or affiliated beyond any AFFILIATION IN NAME. AVNAds and AVN are 2 entirely unique separate companies that do not operate under the same management or share any money on balance sheets. Know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.Comment
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own the domain, license the name...
[QUOTE=RawAlex;12521728]Oh my god, you gotta laugh at the balls the AVN people have.
does anyone have any business acumen here? AVN stands to profit off a deal, AdBrite stands to build their name by using an industry leader. For profit-mongers, it's a win-win. Who the fuck here ISN'T trying to make money. Quit being so self-righteous when you're just not as successful at the sins, you hypocrites.Comment
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AVN, not ADBRITE... i wasn't talking about adbrite..
[QUOTE=KimJI;12568230]Cant belive you idiots still belive that story. How do you explain this then?
AVN, not ADBRITE... i wasn't talking about adbrite..what's there to explain?Comment
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seems like jeff-wah is a shill sent here by the Co. In Question it's self .Comment
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ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I'll be honest, I'm a bit confused... here are the facts:
1) AVNAds is a co-brand of Adbrite for AVN. That means it uses AVN's corporate image but actually is Adbrite
2) The system uses the same exact database, because it makes it 50 times easier to maintain the systems together in terms of updates and such
3) The only difference (apart from the design) in both systems are the categories that are displayed in the directory.
4) AVN sucks torrent sites and the like kill the industry
5) AVN probably makes good $$ with the AVNAds system, NOT off torrent sites obviously though, since they are not in the ADULT category that AVNAds has (which does not exist in Adbrite)
Now people see that Adbrite actually sells advertising on torrent sites and similar. They think, wait, AVNAds is the same backend, lets look for that on AVNAds, and of course they find it. Why? Because its (as I said above) the same database that powers both sites (thats a cobrand, btw). The freeform search also returns torrent sites, again, since its the same db. The DIRECTORY does not list them on AVNAds since the categories are simply not displayed on that cobrand.
AVN of course does not ACTIVELY work with torrent sites, but they do have a close partner which does.
So what exactly does everyone want AVN to do now? I want to understand that. I agree it sucks that adbrite has torrent sites in their system. But what exactly do you want AVN to do about it? Tell Adbrite to remove it? Ok, what if Adbrite says no? Should AVN stop the partnership with Adbrite? Or what exactly does everyone want done?"Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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http://www.avnmedianetwork.com/
AVN Media Network is the Adult Industry's only multiple channel resource with qualified magazine readership, events and trade shows with qualified attendees and buyers, and high-volume traffic websites with the viewers you want to reach. Reap the benefits of multiple channel marketing today and align your company with AVN Media Network :::
Why is AVN and AVN ads listed as a part of that group then?
AVN owned by AVN Media Network Inc.
AVN ads owned by AVN Media Network Inc.
And yet you claim they are not the same company? run by the same people, even regged at the exact same adress. What part of this are you missing?
or did I forget the one is actual in a parralel univers?Trafficadept | Best traffic I have ever tested | web "@t" cuul.orgComment
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Hi All,
For those that don't know me, I'm Farley from AVN. I'm the Publisher of AVN Online Magazine and Director of Licensing.
I'm responsible for the AdBrite / AVN Ads relationship.
Nathan is very much correct on all his points.
Here are the facts:
AVN owns no part of Adbrite and vice versa.
AVN is located in Los Angeles, AdBrite in San Francisco.
AVN owns the URL avnads.com and points dns to AdBrite.
AdBrite licenses AVN their advertising backend platform.
AdBrite handles all billing and support for AVNads.
AVN brands and markets AVN Ads.
AVN Ads works with over 8,200 publishers and tens of thousands of advertisers.
Publisher's can remove any ads that they choose to not display.
Advertisers can choose which sites to advertise on or not.
We are in the process of correcting the issue of AVN Ads pulling results from the AdBrite database. If any site is deemed to be illegal by the proper authorities, it will be immediately removed from the network. Also, if anyone finds that their content has been stolen, please contact me personally so that we may take the appropriate steps.
I hope this helps to clarify this issue.
Should anyone care to contact me directly, please feel free to email farley[at]avn.com or call 818-718-5788.
Thanks,
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no... he CAREFULLY said "If any site is deemed to be illegal by the proper authorities, it will be immediately removed from the network."
which can be assumed to mean "well, we don't really care that its a massive site facilitating the trading of child porn, pirated movies, music and software... not to mention the porn produced by the industry we are a part of... because the site itself, is not illegal... therefore, more clicks for us at your expense as well as at the expense of raped children and hardworking people that create intellectual property"
Its weird.. i would have thought that they would have came out as being against raping kids and stealing porn. who knew?!Comment
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Hello Farlely,
The adult industry here. The adult industry has an question for AVN Publishing and AVN Ads.
.. "would you knowingly allow an advertiser to advertise on your network who owns a site that allows people searching for child porn to find it and download it? What about one that allows users to find pirated porn videos and other stolen content?"
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For some reason, this reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer was reading that brochure "Why it's ok to steal cable"Comment
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AVNmedianetwork own AVN and AVNADS, as documented on your site www.AVNmedianetwork.com - period
AVNADS and Adbrite use the same software, are located on the same server, use the same support people, use the same billing people, use the same design, use the same SLL cert.
And yet you have the balls to come her and claim its not the same company?Trafficadept | Best traffic I have ever tested | web "@t" cuul.orgComment
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Why on earth would you assume that it would be sensible for a company in your position, a leader in the adult industry, to partner with a company that supports torrent sites that might be ripping this industry off?
Does that make any sense to you at all?
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Either this is the worst business set up in the history of business sets ups, or you are lying through your teeth. If I were AVN, I'd be lying through my teeth right now.
Then why would you set it all up this way? Doesn't make sense man, sorry. Too close for comfort.AVN owns no part of Adbrite and vice versa.
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