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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #616
    Originally posted by JustDaveXxx
    This thread is getting really good.

    Send me one too.

    Shit, I want to compete too. Send me a script, I will bare all of the costs of the same shoot you are paying Paul to do. And i will even not seeking out type of reimbursement.In essence you get a free exclusive scene. Dont really give a shit about the money, just really want to show what i can do. I know what my skill level is and im willing to put my money where my mouth is. Would love to kill 3 birds with one stone. Compete with Paul, Compete with a Brazzers shooter of Nathan's choosing(Will be Bret Brando, im guessing) and tryout for Brazzers all in one shot.

    I will even give you a complete uncompressed edit version with my raws.

    Put me in coach.
    It really doesn't matter if you shoot one better than me, or the Brazzers shooter does in competing with me. That's entirely irrelevant.

    3 scenes isn't going to change the fact that Brazzers along with many other site are full of low to medium quality porn that has little to keep the members retained any longer than the minimum.

    Will my 1 scene be better than the one the guy who shot the golf ball one be, or the sofa scene afterwards or the lesbian scene? I wouldn't still be here selling content if that was the best I could do.

    Does Bret Brand knock out a great scene every time he shoots, or will just be told to do a great one this time? Or will your one scene reflect on all your average work?

    I see many sites full of the same mistakes. Images over and over again shot in portrait framing, even though today I think the vast majority of screens are wider the deeper. Wide screen videos with the girl or models standing up, so the screen is a nice scene of the location. Bad angles, too much genitalia, too much zooming and fake models.

    Obviously shot by people without the skill or time to get it right. And in the case of the Mofos scene edited by someone who doesn't have enough knowledge to turn down the audio when heels hit the floor.

    All these mistakes are elementary and I think if you gave these shooters more money it wouldn't make any difference.

    And even if they are better shooters on a better budget, it still comes down to another girl on another bed type scene that isn't that different from every other scene on every other site.

    What does this mean to affiliates and sponsors profits? Members have less reasons to stay longer and leave sooner. That's those that sign up. Because today it doesn't really matter if Manwin only have 5 minute clips on Tube sites. Every other scene is similar to the same as the last one. And if a Brazzers scene isn't available for free a similar one is.

    Dave I've asked a few times, why don't you give me access to one of the sites you shoot for. Might be able to give you some pointers.

    Originally posted by ottopottomouse
    Weeeeeeeeeeee getting interesting now

    How to judge a competition though?
    Well any contest judge on GFY votes, will have me finishing last.

    Originally posted by Altwebdesign
    I hope he does, would be bad for the guy to back out now, he would NEVER live it down!
    I will do it just to piss off Damian.

    In the final mix it doesn't matter what GFY thinks. It's what members think. Will a site full of great porn outsell and out retain a site full of medium quality porn?

    Because ultimately the judge is $$$$$$$$$$
    Last edited by Paul Markham; 03-17-2011, 05:43 AM.



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    • Altwebdesign

      #617
      cmmmooon markham!!

      Any idea when shooting will start and where ?

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      • BVF
        Black Vagina Finder
        • Jan 2002
        • 13975

        #618
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        It really doesn't matter if you shoot one better than me, or the Brazzers shooter does in competing with me. That's entirely irrelevant.

        3 scenes isn't going to change the fact that Brazzers along with many other site are full of low to medium quality porn that has little to keep the members retained any longer than the minimum.

        Will my 1 scene be better than the one the guy who shot the golf ball one be, or the sofa scene afterwards or the lesbian scene? I wouldn't still be here selling content if that was the best I could do.

        Does Bret Brand knock out a great scene every time he shoots, or will just be told to do a great one this time? Or will your one scene reflect on all your average work?

        I see many sites full of the same mistakes. Images over and over again shot in portrait framing, even though today I think the vast majority of screens are wider the deeper. Wide screen videos with the girl or models standing up, so the screen is a nice scene of the location. Bad angles, too much genitalia, too much zooming and fake models.

        Obviously shot by people without the skill or time to get it right. And in the case of the Mofos scene edited by someone who doesn't have enough knowledge to turn down the audio when heels hit the floor.

        All these mistakes are elementary and I think if you gave these shooters more money it wouldn't make any difference.

        And even if they are better shooters on a better budget, it still comes down to another girl on another bed type scene that isn't that different from every other scene on every other site.

        What does this mean to affiliates and sponsors profits? Members have less reasons to stay longer and leave sooner. That's those that sign up. Because today it doesn't really matter if Manwin only have 5 minute clips on Tube sites. Every other scene is similar to the same as the last one. And if a Brazzers scene isn't available for free a similar one is.

        Dave I've asked a few times, why don't you give me access to one of the sites you shoot for. Might be able to give you some pointers.



        Well any contest judge on GFY votes, will have me finishing last.



        I will do it just to piss off Damian.

        In the final mix it doesn't matter what GFY thinks. It's what members think. Will a site full of great porn outsell and out retain a site full of medium quality porn?

        Because ultimately the judge is $$$$$$$$$$
        STFU with the typing and shoot the scene already...Damn!

        Black Pussy
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        • ReggieDurango
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2007
          • 4784

          #619
          Originally posted by Nathan
          Yes, I will have Paul's scene for Mofos shot by one of our contract shooters too though, to be able to compare.
          Very Cool!

          How big can the Brazzers contest be? like, what if 100 different parties want to enter??? The more the merrier hopefully? I want to document as much of this process as possible!

          Paul, when should I plan on flying to Europe and where should I fly???

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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #620
            Originally posted by Altwebdesign
            cmmmooon markham!!

            Any idea when shooting will start and where ?
            Maybe next week. Fabian is arguing about the scene and the contract.

            Once we get the wire I will look for the right girl, a lot of problems today are girls like in Brazzers and Mofos scenes clearly faking everything and putting very little into the scene. Eva and I did notice as we were shooting in 2007 and 2008 how many girls were just "floating" through a scene.

            Ultimately no matter how good the equipment is, if the guy holding it doesn't know how to make a girl perform properly as he needs to he's going to produce poor porn.

            Be patient.



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            • JustDaveXxx
              I AM JUSTDAVE !
              • Feb 2005
              • 4111

              #621
              Originally posted by Nathan
              The contest is most likely on, we are planning it right now. This will be seperate from the contest though since it will be with Brazzers and not Mofos.

              I will keep you guys posted on both.
              I would like to think that I am applicant #1.




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              Last edited by JustDaveXxx; 03-17-2011, 10:03 AM.


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              • Cherry7
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2005
                • 3564

                #622
                I have found a great camera for this shoot....



                This camera can be hired and shoots FULL HD up to 800 frames per second.

                Put the girl naked on a trampolene, get her to jump up and down, film away.

                Two minutes filming you have a 36 minute scene.

                Thats something I'd pay to look at.!


                (you can change the lenses on this camera too ! )
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                • Shameless
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 330

                  #623
                  You know what this tread needs? A fucking Waaaaaaahhhmmm-bulance. Sounds like a lot of whiners and people blurting out shit that makes no sense. The camera with interchangeable lenses, I'm assuming it's 1 CMOS sensor, which will have rolling shutter when you pan with sex.

                  Thoughts:

                  A. You shoot your content on industry standard or better equipment. Last thing ZZ wants to deal with is some huge file for editing or a format they are not familiar with. You will become a pain in their butt and ultimately not rehired.

                  B. Why would you want to chance their being a glitch in something rented?

                  C. Ultimately, Brazzers is kinda gonzo, with wall to wall intros & vignettes with hard sex. Mofos is a different story but kinda the same formula.

                  D. Over all it seems that the lines here are getting very blurred. Are we talking about Brazzers of Mofos? The 2 don't really seem the same niches or shooting styles at all besides being under the Manwin banner. Brazzers higher end, more story. Mofos kinda GF / Amateur but not really?

                  Good luck to everyone,

                  Let the games begin!
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                  • Anthony
                    Keyboard Warrior
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 9653

                    #624
                    TTT. Finally read this huge ass thread. I gotta say, I've seen Just Dave's work, and it blows my socks off. Not to familliar with Paul's or anyone else's work, but definately looking forward to seeing this contest unfold.

                    "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17

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                    • ReggieDurango
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 4784

                      #625
                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                      Maybe next week. Fabian is arguing about the scene and the contract
                      Yeah right Paul, you can stop being dramatic now. The REALITY of this thread is certainly fine enough theatre!

                      Let's suppose you're telling the truth: What is Fabian arguing, exactly? What are YOUR disputes with the contract/situation??

                      Be transparent, Paul, that's what 2011 is all about!
                      Last edited by ReggieDurango; 03-17-2011, 10:44 AM. Reason: PAUL it's time to face THE TEST!!!

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                      • charlie g
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2759

                        #626
                        Hey Nathan/Fabian when is the deadline for the contest? Send me the script and I will shoot an asian version. balipimp-at-gmail-dot-com
                        AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com
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                        • DamianJ
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 15808

                          #627
                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                          I will pretend to do it in order to get a huge long thread and hope some newbs buy my old content.
                          Quoted for truth.

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                          • SB_Content
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 82

                            #628
                            Wow what a great thread! Wow 13 pages, I need some cliff notes. I've directed over 80 scenes for Brazzers and they are a great company to work for. JustDave's gonna kill it!

                            Shelby Black
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                            • Paul Markham
                              Too old to care
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 52942

                              #629
                              Originally posted by ReggieDurango
                              Very Cool!

                              How big can the Brazzers contest be? like, what if 100 different parties want to enter??? The more the merrier hopefully? I want to document as much of this process as possible!

                              Paul, when should I plan on flying to Europe and where should I fly???
                              You really should chat this over with me on ICQ, Skype or phone.

                              +420 603 298 001.



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                              • Altwebdesign

                                #630
                                this is getting good, sooooo looking forward too seeing the finished scenes

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