It's harder to shoot porn today than it was back in the old days.

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  • JustDaveXxx
    I AM JUSTDAVE !
    • Feb 2005
    • 4111

    #466
    Originally posted by Nathan
    Dave, this is all planned
    You are killing me


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    • Phoenix
      BACON BACON BACON
      • Nov 2002
      • 35475

      #467
      should i bother reading this thread?
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      • JustDaveXxx
        I AM JUSTDAVE !
        • Feb 2005
        • 4111

        #468
        Originally posted by Phoenix
        should i bother reading this thread?
        Yes you should. This one is really good. Its a roller coaster ride of entertainment.


        Some would say its a story of good vs Evil or the past vs. the present. Either way it will be a good read.


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        • Agent 488
          Registered User
          • Feb 2006
          • 22511

          #469
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #470
            Originally posted by ottopottomouse
            Is this nearer to happening now or further away than ever?
            It's in motion.

            Need the script, get the contract agreeable to both of us and the money to me. Then I'm off to see some friends regarding models who will be suitable and locations.

            Going to England for a few days Friday to see family. Haven't seen them in a very long time, not I'm off the bottled food I can fly.

            So nothing is likely to happen for a few weeks. Not got anything in line like we used to have, then we could shoot at a moments notice. Now it's tougher. But it will get done, I will do my best and I will get taken apart by the trolls.

            And I will not care. It's what I think of it that counts.

            It is if they keep paying. What does it matter as long as you get the cash.
            Some things never change. You can always rely on top marketing man like Damian to come up and put his foot in his mouth.

            What if they only stay 2 months when 25% would of stayed 3 months? What if only 10% come back to rejoin when 15% would of? Numbers are to show the example.

            Try to steer clear of making too many posts like that one.

            On second thoughts, keep going. Great point.

            I'm looking at the set of the 3 girl scene now, anyone want to see a review?



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            • Paul Markham
              Too old to care
              • Jun 2001
              • 52942

              #471
              Originally posted by JustDaveXxx
              Maybe Nathan should hire Paul for web marketing or as an affiliate manager..
              Wouldn't know where to start. As a content manager with the task of improving content is my field now.

              Even the "New" styles employ the same basic techniques we had to learn. Adjusting to them is not a problem. My only unsure area is models and mostly US models. How pliable are they today. It seems to me many come in to do a mundane job, get it over with and churn out a performance that required little of them.

              Maybe I was spoilt working in UK and CZ. These girls generally didn't mind putting part of themselves into their work.



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              • Paul Markham
                Too old to care
                • Jun 2001
                • 52942

                #472
                Shooting solo girl.

                These tips can be employed to what ever style or level with some adjustment.

                Meeting a model prior to the shoot on a casting is a great way to start the relationship. It allows the shooter to impress the model that he knows what he's doing and gives her the chance to learn about the work and how he works. It's also an excellent way of the shooter seeing which girls are suitable for his work and him.

                And avoids any embarrassment when the girl sent THE ONLY decent picture she has, taken prior to the lions head tattoo covering her back. Yes it has happened.

                Not always possible but great if it is. Always get models to confirm they are coming a day before the shoot.

                On the shoot day the shooter greets the model and while the crew, or not, is working they can sit down and chat and build a bridge. The shooter can again explain what is happening today. Get her too turn off her mobile, phone calls form boyfriends can screw a good day up. For many reasons.

                Then she's off to make up, dressing and the shooter is off to set or check his lights and equipment. Model turns up and all is ready. Make sure your phone is switched off or in a place it won't be heard.

                The set is closed from here on in. Only the shooter and maybe assistant/assistants are allowed in. Or allowed to move, murmur, talk or make a noise. The fewer distractions the better. The shooter needs to build a bridge between him and the model, so she's working with him and not just striking poses into the lens.

                On shooting stills on all but amateur it's helpful to show the model you know what you're doing to put her right on a few poses, maybe move her leg over, move her arm in, arch her back more, throw her shoulders back a little. All to get her confident you're not just clicking a camera and know what you want.

                Girls who need a bit of confidence give it to them, maybe a compliment on her work, or even a compliment on her body. It's not sexual harassment. It's a porn shoot not an audition for a church choir, you're about to ask her to stick a dildo in her pussy and/or ass. If it helps the model it's allowed. Newbies be very careful of this. She must never think you have an ulterior motive.

                Communicate, lead and follow. Shoot in a progression that you want the video to go in. Make the girl shine as herself and not just another girl pulling her panties down for the money. They're all doing it for money, the trick is to show they're doing it for other reasons than to get paid.

                Finish, give the girl a dressing gown, thank her, have a break and change lights while model gets a drink, touches up her make up and redresses.

                ******************************

                All pussies and asses look the same. Some scenes the only difference is the color of the dildo being rammed in. Tits do vary but not enough. It's just meat on a slab.

                What makes the scene different is the girls looks, character and personality as she rams in the dildo. Or gets undressed. For Amateur, Gonzo and teen videos this is essential, or it's just another piece of meat laid out.

                This technique has to be adjusted to fit the girl, some attractive girls are over confident, been hit on too many times and then it's the technique used in higher end content shoots. All people are different they require different handling and a good shooter knows how to adjust this method to suit the model.

                The only way I've ever known to get a girl to bring something of herself to a shoot is to get her to do it for herself and me. I'm flesh and blood a camera is metal, glass, chips and plastic. So the bridge building before comes into it's own. In the ideal shoot she's working to get the shooter to lay her. Because if he keeps his act together and the camera pointed in the right direction he captures it all on the lens and chip. For the viewer to enjoy afterwards. OK most of the time she's just easing him and that's fine. That's the easiest way to produce a great product.

                She's sticking her ass in the air a little higher to please him, she's playing with herself to get his reactions and the whole thing is working like Amateur, yet in a professional style. It's not easy to achieve, some shooters can't do it. But the best can. That's what really separates them from a guy pointing a camera.

                With the higher styles of porn it's essential to impress the girl with an attention to detail, knowledge and skill. So the girl is working to impress him in a different way. She's still working for his attention.

                When she speaks she speaks as herself, the best thing is to tell her the context she should talk in, but let her make it her words. Then each girl starts to act a little different. If the shooter is teaching her parrot fashion it starts to get repetitive and the girl has little feeling in what she's saying. Yes some girls find it hard to talk in front of the camera. Get her to talk to you while the camera is over your face.

                And that brings us another point. If you're looking through the screen on the side you might have it away from your face. The girl will look at your face and it looks like she's looking off camera. Very off putting for the viewer.

                *******************************

                This barely scratches the surface of what it takes to shoot good solo girl content.

                Each girl is very different, some need compliments about their tits or ass or legs, some have crooked teeth and won't open their mouths. Some turn up with bad discharge, warts or herpes on their pussies, not cleaned their asses properly, not douched out properly, get a period (even though she swears it's not due!!!), get PMT. Turn up with razor burn and blood spots where they shaved or even slashed their wrists since the casting. All has to be handle. Sometimes with fixing the problem and sometimes with sending them home, even if it requires taking them to the station, Send them home and take the day off.

                Thankfully most turn up willing to work and listen, if you do it right. Some even turn up determined to have a good day. Even had a girl turn up determined to get laid. But enough about Eva.

                The one ruling factor is get the work done and make sure the girl is happy and wants to work for YOU again.



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                • Agent 488
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 22511

                  #473
                  all bow to the genius.

                  http://www.tube8.com/teen/just-cute-teasing-teen/14221/

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                  • Peace
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 5668

                    #474
                    Paul how hard is to shoot this style? I mean xgf style...all you need is cheap camera or iphone 4
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                    • DamianJ
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 15808

                      #475
                      Originally posted by Agent 488
                      You can just see the rapport he built up oozing out of the girl. So comfortable. So real. Amazing. If this is what 3k gets you I bet people will be lining up to get Paul's input on all types of projects.

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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942

                        #476
                        Originally posted by Peace
                        Paul how hard is to shoot this style? I mean xgf style...all you need is cheap camera or iphone 4
                        Very hard. The shooter whose a stranger is trying to get the girl to act like he's her boyfriend. If it's as if a BF is shooting it. If she's pointing th camera at a mirror or got it on a tripod she has to act as if it's for her BF.

                        Yes trolls, getting a girl to shoot solo girl isn't as easy as point and shoot. No mater if another girl is shooting her. Which I why I can never understand why people scream ot "Shoot a solo girl site of her."

                        We shot Grace and her stills sales were fantastic. Yet on video she sucked unless mixed in with other girls. Yet people shot solo girl sites of her.



                        If we were relying on video sales she wouldn't of made us as much money. Like the girl in the Tube8 video. But you can't expect trolls to realise that.



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                        • Cherry7
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 3564

                          #477
                          Rabbit Reviews

                          Paul Markham Teens Quality 9/10 Total score 84/100
                          MOFOS Quality 9/10 Total score 76/100
                          Brazzers Quality 10/10 Total score 95/100
                          My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye


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                          • Wizzo
                            2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                            • Nov 2000
                            • 15224

                            #478
                            Back to the thread topic, don't know if its harder to shoot, but sure seems harder to negotiate a deal....haha
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                            • Robbie
                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 20960

                              #479
                              Originally posted by Cherry7
                              Rabbit Reviews

                              Paul Markham Teens Quality 9/10 Total score 84/100
                              MOFOS Quality 9/10 Total score 76/100
                              Brazzers Quality 10/10 Total score 95/100
                              Do you really take that seriously? They are an AFFILIATE. Period.

                              Sometimes I have to wonder what some people are thinking. A lot of you act like marks and are always being worked. A few of you understand the game.

                              You are supposed to be IN this business. Anybody actually in this business who believes a "review site" is an actual "review site" like "Consumer Reports", is a mark. Plain and simple.

                              Whomever wrote those "reviews" is no more and no less qualified to "grade" a website than any asshole off the street. Most times they are LESS qualified because they aren't a fan of and don't understand the niche in front of them.

                              People, start acting like you are in this business and stop acting like fans/customers.
                              Last edited by Robbie; 03-08-2011, 02:54 PM.
                              -Robbie
                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                              • GlobalCorp
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 830

                                #480
                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                Do you really take that seriously? They are an AFFILIATE. Period.

                                Sometimes I have to wonder what some people are thinking. A lot of you act like marks and are always being worked. A few of you understand the game.

                                You are supposed to be IN this business. Anybody actually in this business who believes a "review site" is an actual "review site" like "Consumer Reports", is a mark. Plain and simple.

                                Whomever wrote those "reviews" is no more and no less qualified to "grade" a website than any asshole off the street. Most times they are LESS qualified because they aren't a fan of and don't understand the niche in front of them.

                                People, start acting like you are in this business and stop acting like fans/customers.
                                I don't know Paul so nothing against him, but the statement above should be immortalized.

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