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03-08-2011, 12:34 AM

450 people who know there is no way Paul is EVER going to make this film.

Originally posted by Nathan

Gotta love Robbie!

He is an interesting character. WHen he had his mullet, and his jericurls, he was all

"Fuck you, douchebag, you're so fucking retarded, I am brilliant, you are fucking shit"

Along with the amusing rants about claudemary being the most successful bit tit milf in the world. Ever.

Now, he's had the mullet removed, and he is all:

"I read your point, I make a counterpoint that is unrelated to your original point and now I put you on ignore"

It's like the slow kid at school is running up to someone successful and shouting "POO POO HEAD" at them, then running to the sandpit and sticking his head in it.
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03-08-2011, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

Yes I did as well. He has moved the goal posts so many times it was inevitable. He now expects me to shoot it and wait for their approval to see if I get paid.

Read before you post. I know you are old and confused and really stupid, but take a breath grandpa.

On page 9 Fabien already agreed to prepay you, you fuckstick.

So now you have NO excuse at all!

(But we all know you will just lie, there is no way, at all, this will be made, but well done for 10 pages of nonsense).
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03-08-2011, 12:56 AM

Paul, seriously.. as I said, I am pre-paying... no issue at all..

Also, I do not understand why to ME you say in an email you will read the contract "tomorrow" (that was yesterday) but here you come and post how its all unfair and evil and we will never pay you... jeez seriously paul...

As I said, pre-payment is not an issue at all, you will get a new contract today. I also got scene info for you, but I think the scene they picked does not fit, so I will talk to them again today, I do not want to set you up to fail... I want to see your far superior shooting...

Look, its simple.. IF you are correct, and your style content would be BETTER and the USERS actually agree, I would be the LAST ONE not to just hire you. I will make more money... its as simple as that.. but for this to happen, I need proof....

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03-08-2011, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by JustDaveXxx

Damn Paul!! One of the most impressive reviews I have ever read. You were dead on with what you pointed out. You really need to know your shit to point out what you pointed out. Very, Very impressive.

Thank you. Being old doesn't mean you forget everything you learnt over the years.

I looked at the camera work and i defiantly with out a doubt know who shot that scene. The moves way give it away. This director does not edit and will not listen to anybody about anything when it comes to making technical changes that will up his content quality. This particular shooter is a technical retard and will not listen to anybody, because he already knows it all. Im guessing he fears loosing his job when his technical short comings come to light.

Then Manwin are at fault using him. He's below par.

The stills are shot by somebody else entirely and are seriously rushed because the director is yelling at everyone to hurry up,because he wants to get out of there before 4pm. That is way evident by the inconsistency of the stills. The strobes are not recharged when the photog fires the next shot. That i know is a fact.

Then shows that below par people are shooting porn for Manwin.

The shooter should shoot the stills and video. This way builds up a relationship between the model and shooter on the stills set. There should be no distractions for them both to work. Don't they use a power pack on the strobes?

As for getting out by 4pm. Why? Once you start squeezing shoots into a time frame you lose quality. someone said it can be done in half a day. Yes it can be done like this in half a day. Done well takes longer.

I know the Photographer personally, but i do know the director. I know if the photographer had more time on the stills, the stills would be way, way better. 2k stills and get them done in 20 min. is not fair to the photographer and to the company paying for the scene.

He could still put in more poses and not make mistakes like hiding the girl doing a "pink". But without blaming them I blame Manwin for using this content. My site proves without a shadow of doubt I can out shoot both of these guys.

You were right about him using the onboard mic. He wont use a boom because he is way far from technical as they get and he will claim it will restrict his quick movement and scene flow.

Furthermore this particular director has a serious reputation for yelling at talent and stressing everyone out on set when he is in a bad mood. That seems to be everyday from what I hear. Thats what is with the uncomfortable look on the girls face. Im not going to name him, but his initials are TT. (I bet i get a scathing call later in the week because of my honesty)

Not the TT? Shit that guy should know far better. Ultimately Manwin are to blame for using him.

From what I understand MOFOS is more of an amateur site. Shot with little lighting(on purpose) and has more of a raw feel to it.

That's no whenre near Amatuer niche. Miles away.

Paul, I think that you happened to pic the worst scene shot by, IMHO, the least skilled shooter. To Brazzers defense, i think that is the look that MOFOS wants for that network. A Pro Am look and feel is the look that MOFOS is looking for.

I saw worse on Brazzers. Pro Am always meant, to me, pro shooter amateur model. This is pro model amateur shooter. Not great. What do members think of it?

You need to see some of the stuff that Bret Brando shoots. That is the stuff that is on the Brazzers flagship site. The sound is good, the lighting is on point, the stories are entertaining and i know that Brando is always on point.

Is his content flagged with his name?

The shooters that care and that are on point when they shoot will have an external mic on the camera with a shock mount going into channel one and a boom arm mic that is positioned 3 feet over the set, cabled in to channel two. Why??? Shooters that are editors and editors know why.

Yes had this when I was shooting amateur for Astral Blue.

"Over all," i still think that Brazzers "as a whole" has the best content quality on the net. With RK at close 2nd in content quality. RK's edge is the new unseen girl factor.

Then that reflects badly for the rest of the industry. I have seen inside a lot of site and yes, Brazzers is in front of many online only sites. Which says something bad about the rest.

I do edit my own scenes, I see my past mistakes and i have learned from them. After reading your review and seeing that your eye is on technical point and knowing that you do understand what is expected from you, I truly feel that you will knock this scene out of the park. Shit, you might end up being the next Brazzers contract guy.

Editing your own work is essential to learn from mistakes. We all make them, seeing what is dumped in the editors lap teaches a person to not do it again. Goes for video and stills. The editing of this scene was sloppy at best. Is the editor a bad guy as well?

I would never of lasted producing content like this and with respect to the shooter and editor they wouldn't of lasted either. It's only online that they do. Is the customer so forgiving when he spent his money?

I doubt it.

Paul; you and I may disagree on things from time to time, but i do respect you and all of your accomplishments in adult. I will be cheering for you on this next shoot,

Good luck

Thanks, will wait for the new contract.

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03-08-2011, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by Nathan

Paul, seriously.. as I said, I am pre-paying... no issue at all..

Also, I do not understand why to ME you say in an email you will read the contract "tomorrow" (that was yesterday) but here you come and post how its all unfair and evil and we will never pay you... jeez seriously paul...

As I said, pre-payment is not an issue at all, you will get a new contract today. I also got scene info for you, but I think the scene they picked does not fit, so I will talk to them again today, I do not want to set you up to fail... I want to see your far superior shooting...

Look, its simple.. IF you are correct, and your style content would be BETTER and the USERS actually agree, I would be the LAST ONE not to just hire you. I will make more money... its as simple as that.. but for this to happen, I need proof....

I read it this morning. And have other issues with it. Will email you.

Will you hire me at $3,000 a scene?

The mistakes in the content loaded onto the Mofos site are obvious, the editing is sloppy. The stills shooting is crap, the video shooting is crap. You use a below par team to shoot content you want to satisfy members with.

However Manwin's content is pretty good for online only companies. I blame the actual trend of companies loading sites with below par content. Which has done as much harm to this business as Tubes and piracy. The below par content made customers far harder to sell to and made memberships shorter.

I will post later how I think solo girl scenes should be shot.

Whether I'm physically capable of shooting today is the only issue. Getting hold of the latest equipment doesn't show a shooters skills. The reviewed scene I assume was shot with good equipment, but still fucked it up. The best job I could do is tutor shooters and editors. That way physical and equipment doesn't enter the equation. What's in my head is clearly demonstrated.

These faults by the whole industry are one of the main reasons why so many now go for Amateur content. They're sick of watching pro models badly fake their way through a scene while being shot by below par shooters and badly edited. They above all want reality, in Playboy end or Homegrown end.

And they don't want to have their ears blown out by a models heels banging on the floor. That will lead to canceled memberships.

I'm going to eat.

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03-08-2011, 01:46 AM

Paul,

I would appreciate if you would at some point at least start showing some respect. At some point, I will stop being nice and friendly to you too...

I honestly do not care if you think my whole team are a bunch of idiots and know nothing at all.. My team makes me more money in a day, than you make in a year.

That being said, there is a purpose of having "bad" looking videos on the mofos sites.. they have to have mistakes to look more real. They are supposed to look a bit more home-made... The stills, I agree, are not good. The reason though is simple, as I said in the past, its not a focus, at all, to make them good. Its not the point. They are made primarily for ad production and are good enough for that. We just load them all on the site since more is better on a website, compared to a magazine where each pic needs to be perfect.

I have said time and time again that we will pay you 3000 USD for the scene. And I have said again that we will pre-pay. This is the first contract draft, give me your comments and I'll look into it.

I might take you up on yout tutoring idea.. who knows... Mofos is amateur btw, its NOT brazzers, which is shot completely different.

Mofos is shot with hand held HD cams, Brazzers uses more professional equipment and lighting.

Again, as I said, if we your changes to Mofos videos increase retention even more, I'm the last one to complain. But that is still to be proven... Mofos performance already is very very good.

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03-08-2011, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by DamianJ

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03-08-2011, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by Nathan

Paul,

I would appreciate if you would at some point at least start showing some respect. At some point, I will stop being nice and friendly to you too...

You took up this challenge to see me fail, you tried to trick me into shooting 3 scenes, you sent me the contract and no indication of a draft.

I honestly do not care if you think my whole team are a bunch of idiots and know nothing at all.. My team makes me more money in a day, than you make in a year.

And by having better guys, they would make you more.

That being said, there is a purpose of having "bad" looking videos on the mofos sites.. they have to have mistakes to look more real. They are supposed to look a bit more home-made... The stills, I agree, are not good. The reason though is simple, as I said in the past, its not a focus, at all, to make them good. Its not the point. They are made primarily for ad production and are good enough for that. We just load them all on the site since more is better on a website, compared to a magazine where each pic needs to be perfect.

So a website can get away with bad content. I wonder if members agree with you. Don't tell me what you do now, it's about what you could be doing. You and so many other sites. Some seem to think once the member has signed up the hard work is over. We know where the main cost goes. In truth to retain members and get them to return, to earn even more money, the job is now to be done inside the site.

I will review more scenes later. There is nothing "Home Made" about those 2 scenes.

Yes magazines demanded a far higher standard.

I have said time and time again that we will pay you 3000 USD for the scene. And I have said again that we will pre-pay. This is the first contract draft, give me your comments and I'll look into it.

Not what the contract sent said.

I might take you up on yout tutoring idea.. who knows... Mofos is amateur btw, its NOT brazzers, which is shot completely different.

Mofos is shot with hand held HD cams, Brazzers uses more professional equipment and lighting.

Mofos isn't amateur. Having good lighting and cameras doesn't make a professional film.

Again, as I said, if we your changes to Mofos videos increase retention even more, I'm the last one to complain. But that is still to be proven... Mofos performance already is very very good.

It can't be improved by someone coming in and shaking up the team?

Was the editing meant to be amateur as well?

I don't see you showing me any respect. And my respect is earned not bought. I have said Manwin's content looks better than many, if not most online. but that's my point. It's not just Manwin's site putting out low quality content shot on high quality cameras. It's the general trend. For the reasons I stated at the beginning of this thread.

Ultimately it's not what anyone here thinks of content. It's what the end buyer thinks. The members. Saying it's good enough isn't good enough for them.

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03-08-2011, 02:41 AM

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Saying it's good enough isn't good enough for them.

It is if they keep paying. What does it matter as long as you get the cash.

I can't see many people mid-wank putting their cocks down in disgust saying "I HEARD HER FUCKING STILETTO SHOE ON THE FLOOR FFS".
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03-08-2011, 03:52 AM

Paul, stop claiming I am even remotely trying to trick you! I keep telling you your requested changes are fine.. Hardly tricking you.

The contract is simply there to define our relationship and the 3000 usd and such is then done based on invoicing an order from us to you... The only change needed is pre payment, this contract does not cause you to have to deliver anything, it simply defines what happens IF you deliver something and what insuch a case you have to provide us with...

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03-08-2011, 05:10 AM

any date yet? i havent caught up yet, bit busy so will catch up later
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03-08-2011, 06:07 AM

Is this nearer to happening now or further away than ever?

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03-08-2011, 07:38 AM

paul, am i gonna be the lucky guy who gets to star with these girls?
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03-08-2011, 09:53 AM

Page 10??? Really??

Who gets 10 pages on GFY now a days? Contest threads don't even get 10 pages.

Maybe Nathan should hire Paul for web marketing or as an affiliate manager..

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03-08-2011, 10:02 AM

Dave, this is all planned

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