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  • directfiesta
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2002
    • 30248

    #201
    Originally posted by RazorSharpe

    Can't believe I spent $1.99 just to check this out .....


    Sticky can go shopping now ....
    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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    • stickyfingerz
      Doin fine
      • Oct 2005
      • 24984

      #202
      Originally posted by directfiesta


      Sticky can go shopping now ....
      ya that 1.00 or so really helps out. lol I do revshare.

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      • RazorSharpe
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2001
        • 2238

        #203
        Originally posted by stickyfingerz
        Hmm did your leach include the audio?

        Theres like 20 or 30k of movies on there, and you pick a low quality video?
        Erm, I chose not to encode with audio but that's not really the point. You said people couldn't copy the videos.

        What difference does it make what video I decided to record? I bought $1.99 of credit and recorded the first video i saw and went to make a coffee.

        Jesus, what I heard about you must be true ... you seem like the kind of guy!
        Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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        • stickyfingerz
          Doin fine
          • Oct 2005
          • 24984

          #204
          Originally posted by RazorSharpe
          Erm, I chose not to encode with audio but that's not really the point. You said people couldn't copy the videos.

          What difference does it make what video I decided to record? I bought $1.99 of credit and recorded the first video i saw and went to make a coffee.

          Jesus, what I heard about you must be true ... you seem like the kind of guy!
          More with the what I heard about you shit. lol So why is your quality terrible? 450kbps looks like 120kbps. So you made a crappy copy. As already stated its not 100% secure. So what have I been saying about innovating? Ahh fuck it good for all you guys. Give away all your content for 29.00.

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          • tony299
            lurker
            • Aug 2002
            • 57021

            #205
            Sticky you know I like you but you dont know what your talking about, Ive had pay sites for almost 7 yrs. I know the porn surfer. If you think your ideas work create a site and dont let the surfer have open access and see how long you are in business. BT's are about free loaders and most are not of legal age. Also people aren't buying the newest pc, dell is laying off a shit load of people . Also HD porn doesnt make it good porn just a bigger picture most of it is shit. I got an email 3 months ago from a member who couldn't see the clips, I asked him what version he was on and he said windows 3.1. My aunt runs a business on ebay and is on a sony viao 366mhz has no intension of upgrading.Most see a pc as an appliance like a toaster so unless it goes bad it stays. They still have dialup isp commercials on tv for christ sake.
            BT's arent a innovation, they are illegal and the only reason they continue is they are in countries that dont give a fuck otherwise .They would be gone.
            Last edited by tony286; 06-06-2007, 10:51 AM.

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            • stickyfingerz
              Doin fine
              • Oct 2005
              • 24984

              #206
              Originally posted by tony404
              Sticky you know I like you but you dont know what your talking about, Ive had pay sites for almost 7 yrs. I know the porn surfer. If you think your ideas work create a site and dont let the surfer have open access and see how long you are in business. BT's are about free loaders and most are not of legal age. Also people aren't buying the newest pc, dell is laying off a shit load of people . Also HD porn doesnt make it good porn just a bigger picture most of it is shit. I got an email 3 months ago from a member who couldn't see the clips, I asked him what version he was on and he said windows 3.1. My aunt runs a business on ebay and is on a sony viao 366mhz has no intension of upgrading.Most see a pc as an appliance like a toaster so unless it goes bad it stays. They still have dialup isp commercials on tv for christ sake.
              BT's arent a innovation, they are illegal and the only reason they continue is they are in countries that dont give a fuck otherwise .They would be gone.

              Sorry torrents are not illegal. The trading of illegal software and material is. You need to seperate that first and foremost. That guy on 3.1 can keep his 29.00 bucks he wont even be able to view most paysites without scrolling around back and forth. lol I think he was pulling your leg. And I keep a 386 in the garage with a monitor for when I am doing my ebay shit too. Its fine for pulling up the ebay pages and setting ads up. Would I use it to watch video? No doubtful. And if that was my only computer I wouldnt be signing up for a paysite, Id be saving my money to buy a new computer. I also doubt your aunt signs up for paysites.

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              • will76
                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                • May 2003
                • 18037

                #207
                Originally posted by 12clicks
                hello kettle

                oh come on you can't be comparing me to sticky fingers. please tell me that is not the case you will make me cry if you feel that way.
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                • tony299
                  lurker
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 57021

                  #208
                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                  Sorry torrents are not illegal. The trading of illegal software and material is. You need to seperate that first and foremost. That guy on 3.1 can keep his 29.00 bucks he wont even be able to view most paysites without scrolling around back and forth. lol I think he was pulling your leg. And I keep a 386 in the garage with a monitor for when I am doing my ebay shit too. Its fine for pulling up the ebay pages and setting ads up. Would I use it to watch video? No doubtful. And if that was my only computer I wouldnt be signing up for a paysite, Id be saving my money to buy a new computer. I also doubt your aunt signs up for paysites.
                  Man I wish I could be as arrogant as you, is it rough knowing more than anyone else?Go do it you know better put your money where your mouth is,talk is cheap.

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                  • stickyfingerz
                    Doin fine
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 24984

                    #209
                    Originally posted by tony404
                    Man I wish I could be as arrogant as you, is it rough knowing more than anyone else?Go do it you know better put your money where your mouth is,talk is cheap.
                    Hmm maybe I will.

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                    • will76
                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                      • May 2003
                      • 18037

                      #210
                      Originally posted by LadyMischief
                      Why sponsors bother with torrent traffic I have no idea. The idea that people are there to leech free stuff doesn't seem to get through.. It's probably the LEAST likely demographic of surfers to actually purchase a product, they are knowingly skirting the "payment methods" to get it free. What a retarded business model.. not all traffic is equal, large amounts of traffic isn't worth shit if they aren't BUYING traffic with credit cards and the intent to pay.
                      Seriously are you really asking that question? The answers are pretty obvious:

                      1. The sponsors advertising there offer a product that can not be given away for free and is basically an upsell to what the people are getting for free.

                      2. Obviously they make a profit on their adverising there so no matter how bad the traffic the revenue must exceed the costs.

                      3. They do it to help destroy their competition. They fund people to give away your products for free so you lose your affiliates. Your conversions go to shit your affiliate switch to them where they make more money. They hit you from 2 ways, make your product worthless as it is given away for free and kill your traffic by making your affiliates leave.


                      Let me know if this makes sense/
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                      • will76
                        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                        • May 2003
                        • 18037

                        #211
                        Originally posted by RawAlex
                        This message is hidden because stickyfingerz is on your ignore list.

                        What a wonderful sight that is.
                        LOL 200 posts here but I can read 100 of them
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                        • RawAlex
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 9465

                          #212
                          Originally posted by will76
                          LOL 200 posts here but I can read 100 of them
                          It's funny as heck. I don't have to read sticky's posts to understand how seriously he has been 0WN3D in this thread. Just like many of the people sticking up for Lars and his ilk, their arguments are weak tea and they don't seem to understand that their products are just as easily ripped off as the next one.

                          The proof is there... that same video could be on a torrent site 5 minutes from now, right next to an AFF ad. Sad.

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                          • RazorSharpe
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 2238

                            #213
                            Originally posted by will76
                            LOL 200 posts here but I can read 100 of them
                            take me off ignore you bastard!!!

                            Oh and finger chappie ... i said i converted the file to wmv, the orinal I downloaded is the same quality as the original and at 2000kbps
                            http://www.sharpedezine.com/leech_original.asf

                            I'm still not sure why you're going on and fucking on about the quality when you originally said that "your" vod site couldn't be copied off. You're singing a slightly different tune than you previously were.

                            Oh and I hope you buy something special with the revshare payment you get off my purchase .... like a clue perhaps!

                            ...
                            Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                            • RazorSharpe
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 2238

                              #214
                              Originally posted by RawAlex
                              It's funny as heck. I don't have to read sticky's posts to understand how seriously he has been 0WN3D in this thread. Just like many of the people sticking up for Lars and his ilk, their arguments are weak tea and they don't seem to understand that their products are just as easily ripped off as the next one.

                              The proof is there... that same video could be on a torrent site 5 minutes from now, right next to an AFF ad. Sad.
                              I think the lack of an outcry from program owners is partly to blame. Maybe "nobodies" should start ripping their sites and creating pay sites so they realise that it is one and the same thing that AFF and their ilk are doing.

                              ...
                              Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                              • TampaToker
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2006
                                • 5828

                                #215
                                Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                I think the lack of an outcry from program owners is partly to blame. Maybe "nobodies" should start ripping their sites and creating pay sites so they realise that it is one and the same thing that AFF and their ilk are doing.

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                                • RazorSharpe
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 2238

                                  #216
                                  Originally posted by TampaToker
                                  hum...
                                  hum... what? i'm not going to do it .... this month!

                                  ...
                                  Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                  • RawAlex
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 9465

                                    #217
                                    Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                    I think the lack of an outcry from program owners is partly to blame. Maybe "nobodies" should start ripping their sites and creating pay sites so they realise that it is one and the same thing that AFF and their ilk are doing.

                                    ...
                                    You are correct - or ripping one site, and using all the content to drive traffic to similar sites from another sponsor... it's all good, apparently.

                                    I am honestly stunned that more program owners and copyright holders don't have lawyers on the job getting after programs that encourage this stuff. I am starting to think that many of the supposedly big programs just ain't got the cash to do the job anymore.

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                                    • will76
                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 18037

                                      #218
                                      Originally posted by RawAlex
                                      You are correct - or ripping one site, and using all the content to drive traffic to similar sites from another sponsor... it's all good, apparently.

                                      I am honestly stunned that more program owners and copyright holders don't have lawyers on the job getting after programs that encourage this stuff. I am starting to think that many of the supposedly big programs just ain't got the cash to do the job anymore.
                                      I am surprised program owners are not talking about this. Why is it that it seems like the affiliates are the ones who have to bring all of this up and try to make things better for sponsor so the affiliate can protect his own ass.

                                      Should be the other way around, the sponsor should be out their protecting their own ass and helping the people who make them money.

                                      Maybe some are working behind the scenes and not posting about it. It would be nice to see them at least post in support, let people know they take it seriously and working on it. Even the ones that don't plan on doing anything about these issues and just hope they will go away, the least they could do is post that they support what affiliates are trying to do. At least recongize the problem publicly so your affiliates know you at least give a shit.

                                      I just don't understand how so many sponsors could be affected by content theft and it seems like less than 5% will even comment on it. strange.
                                      Last edited by will76; 06-06-2007, 04:29 PM.
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                                      • Aussie Rebel
                                        Blow Me U Geeks
                                        • Aug 2001
                                        • 5108

                                        #219
                                        Originally posted by will76
                                        I am surprised program owners are not talking about this. Why is it that it seems like the affiliates are the ones who have to bring all of this up and try to make things better for sponsor so the affiliate can protect his own ass.

                                        Should be the other way around, the sponsor should be out their protecting their own ass and helping the people who make them money.

                                        Maybe some are working behind the scenes and not posting about it. It would be nice to see them at least post in support, let people know they take it seriously and working on it. Even the ones that don't plan on doing anything about these issues and just hope they will go away, the least they could do is post that they support what affiliates are trying to do. At least recongize the problem publicly so your affiliates know you at least give a shit.

                                        I just don't understand how so many sponsors could be affected by content theft and it seems like less than 5% will even comment on it. strange.
                                        It might be worth making a thread dedicated to program owners asking there thought on the matter

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                                        • RawAlex
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 9465

                                          #220
                                          Originally posted by will76
                                          I just don't understand how so many sponsors could be affected by content theft and it seems like less than 5% will even comment on it. strange.
                                          I think there are a couple of reasons:

                                          (a) If it has your logo on it, people will type that into the address bar and buy memberships without having to pay the affiliates a cent
                                          (b) The programs are still profitable enough that they aren't paying attention to the losses of revenue.

                                          The first one is big. In the past, when people were putting smaller amounts of images and 10 second videos on free sites, tgps, and on newsgroups... yeah, it was pretty much a given. But torrents and P2P change all that, because people want THE WHOLE F'N DEAL. They download site rips, not galleries... they download entire videos, not clips. Too many people haven't realized that what little traffic they get just can't be big enough return for having your content dilluted like strip club rum.

                                          The second part is also a big issue. Most programs aren't as profitable as they once were, but they are still profitable. As long as they are making money, they aren't pay attention to the dollars slipping away. Not only are they leaving money on the table, but Lars and his type are there sweeping up the money off the table.

                                          Program owners need to understand that they could be WAY more profitable... and they could make thier affiliates way happier. But that isn't happening.

                                          Meanwhile, Lars laughs at all of us and takes the money and runs. Program owners need to understand that he is laughing AT you, not with you.

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                                          • Brujah
                                            Beer Money Baron
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 22157

                                            #221
                                            For the record, I only see DatingGold on TorrentSpy. I don't see AFF anywhere. DatingGold is all over the page.

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                                            • Aussie Rebel
                                              Blow Me U Geeks
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 5108

                                              #222
                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                              For the record, I only see DatingGold on TorrentSpy. I don't see AFF anywhere. DatingGold is all over the page.
                                              and wildcash

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                                              • DTK
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 4546

                                                #223
                                                Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                Meanwhile, Lars laughs at all of us and takes the money and runs. Program owners need to understand that he is laughing AT you, not with you.
                                                I know this thread is about AFF, but let's remember not to paint with too narrow a brush
                                                Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                • xclusive
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                  • 35218

                                                  #224
                                                  Hate when I miss good threads like this when I go away for a week. To bad the poll is closed. It's obvious that AFF is bad for the biz in many ways and they don't care about any of us. I also think that it's a farce that they are allowed to be sponsors of http://www.asacp.org when they support torrent sites that not only contain cp but it's also a huge source for kids getting thier hands on the porn since they don't need a credit card to do it. It's a shame that so many big companies continue to stick up for them and that they are allowed to get away with assisting in the killing of out industry. They are by no means the only sponsor guilty of this. But they are the biggest name out there among torrent site owners and they know that AFF will do little to them so they can be paid and steal from all of us as much as they want and still get paid. So fuck AFF. %90 of aff supporters are about as usefull as the contest whores here on gfy. About %5 of the AFF are just greedy fucks and are as good for the industry as AFF is. Then there is the %5 or so that still support them because if they don't they fear they will lose the recurring base they have built up over the years and I feel bad for them as they want to do the right thing but depend on that money. Just rough estimates of course but i'd imagine those are about right. I need some sleep now, Hope I don't dream about that goat fucking lars again. That was just freaky.

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                                                  • 12clicks
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 19816

                                                    #225
                                                    Originally posted by will76
                                                    oh come on you can't be comparing me to sticky fingers. please tell me that is not the case you will make me cry if you feel that way.
                                                    Will, you're one of the guys whose made it in this biz so you'd probably be fun to chat with. However, these incessant posts about AFF leave me feeling like you'd be an exception to the rule. Intelligence would have told you that after your first 100 posts on the subject it was time to move on. For some reason, you're still posting about it.
                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                    • dpRoberts
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                      • 43

                                                      #226
                                                      We should pull down their pants and spank them with moon rocks.

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                                                      • Scroto
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                        • 2804

                                                        #227
                                                        Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                        take me off ignore you bastard!!!

                                                        Oh and finger chappie ... i said i converted the file to wmv, the orinal I downloaded is the same quality as the original and at 2000kbps
                                                        http://www.sharpedezine.com/leech_original.asf

                                                        I'm still not sure why you're going on and fucking on about the quality when you originally said that "your" vod site couldn't be copied off. You're singing a slightly different tune than you previously were.

                                                        Oh and I hope you buy something special with the revshare payment you get off my purchase .... like a clue perhaps!

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