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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #226
    Originally posted by DamianJ
    Where did I say that Porn Beer was a marketing advertising exercise for my marketing services Paul?

    That's pretty much what it is. It's content you see, for my site PornBeer which is an affiliate site. I get a few hundred bucks a month from that and it pays for some nights out. It's an unashamed rip off of diggnation and I do it with my oldest bestest friend for a laugh. That's all. It's not a showreel to pitch for the AD&D awards.

    It's OK. You are old and easily confused. I understand why you thought that I was trying to advertise my marketing consultancy by sitting on a couch drinking beer talking shit with my pal.

    It's such an easy mistake to make.
    Then don't spam it on a board where potential customers can see it.



    As far as I know, at least in the UK, the state frowns upon people lying to get money. If you are an invalid, you cannot then work.

    You pretend to be retired, yet state you were doing site updates and sending out shit to 'clients' yesterday.

    Which is it?

    Are you retired, so rich in your palace you don't need to worry about anything, and just post here to annoy people because it amuses you?

    Are you pretending to be ill to sponge money from the Prague government? Obviously still doing site updates and generating money from your members, but at the same time taking state handouts from as a foreigner?

    Or are you not retired, desperate for money because you don't have any credit or bank cards and trying to sell old pictures you have admitted yourself are not good enough anymore for 60 bucks to pay some bills?

    I imagine the government would take a different view.

    In the UK there is a dedicated phone number you can call to grass people up that are benefit frauds. Is there similar in Prague?

    It's not. Retired means you stop working. It's black and white.
    My job is photographer and managing director. I'm physically unable to do them as I need to sleep during the day. I'm willing to give Fabian a shot at doing a video for him. Will be interesting to see what I can do.

    The diagnosis is backed by my doctors. Not one I see many.

    Who said she was, love?

    Bless you, getting all confused again.
    Sorry typed it wrong. Eva is NOW sole owner of the company. My mistake, keep flaming instead of debating the subject. That's will solve everything.

    Originally posted by Nathan
    Paul's mistake simply lies in the fact that he thinks the market is declining
    Manwin might be picking up, but the industry as a whole in in massive decline because of the practice of sites like Pornhub and Brazzers. Giving porn away in ever increasing amounts and producing average porn isn't a recipe for success.

    I would love you to show how the industry isn't declining. You're clueless about what this industry used to make.

    And where's the script and money? Need to get moving on this as I can only manage a few hours a day without a nap.



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    • plsureking
      bored
      • Aug 2003
      • 4898

      #227
      Originally posted by DamianJ
      Where did I say that Porn Beer was a marketing advertising exercise for my marketing services Paul?
      I like Porn Beer. old people that aren't in tune with mainstream culture or the younger generations probably didn't get it. you were trying to entertain and not just give out full length videos like everybody else. sure it was a bit dry in places - especially the jokes - but at least it was INNOVATIVE. who else is trying new things and attempting to innovate porn marketing? certainly not dinosaur Paul.
      PornCMS / low cost paysite management with hosting

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      • DamianJ
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2006
        • 15808

        #228
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        Good back to the real trolling.

        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        Didn't Eva do it?
        No idea, you said you were doing it. But I find it hard to keep up with your lies.


        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        Eva shot it. $3500. $4,000 to $5,000. Double it to $15,000, because we shot 2 scenes that day,it's about $$$$$. we made money
        Oh right. I've misunderstood all your posts all this time. I thought you considered yourself an artist. I thought you were all about making good porn people would want to see, not just making greenbacks.

        I was labouring under the clearly wrong assumption that when you post telling people how to make good porn, that you actually made good porn.

        I'd never seen one of your films before that pirated clip.

        With the above quote about it being about the money and after having watched the content, I see crystal clear now.

        Thanks for the clarification.

        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        I've done a few and sat on the panel of a few as well. The one you're talking about was moved back to Saturday and was after the show and the day I was flying home. All the others including ones at Telemedia I've made.
        Interesting. So you lied about not being bothered to do it then. I see. Thanks for the clarification.

        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        The problem of doing a master class is the first thing people have to learn is I can't shoot GOOD porn
        Fair point.

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        • Nathan
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 3108

          #229
          Paul, the industry is not declining, the industry might be moving away from magazines and DVDs, but it is far from declining...

          Regarding the script and money.. slow down, you will get the script once we have chosen one, and you will get the money once we signed a contract...
          "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
          - Charlie Munger

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          • DamianJ
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2006
            • 15808

            #230
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            Then don't spam it on a board where potential customers can see it.
            Right. I will take lessons on how to deal with potential customers from the way you deal with Fabian offering your 3k and your hungry little hand going out for it. Thanks for the tips. Means a lot.

            If you found PornBeer funny, I think I'd give up doing it. There are target markets you see, and Pseudo-Retired Internet Liar isn't high up the demog I was going after.

            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            My job is photographer and managing director.
            Right, so you lied about being retired then. Cool.

            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            The diagnosis is backed by my doctors.
            So the docs in Prague give you a sick note saying "Paul Markham is not allowed to work due to ill health, please give him state handouts. Oh yes, we know he makes 20k* a month from his great teen website, plus whatever from the content store, but that's cool. Give him a bit more cash, he's a nice guy".

            Brilliant! No wonder you moved there. Nothing to do with the reason everyone thinks.


            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            keep flaming
            What do you think flame means Paul? You continually misuse the word.


            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            Manwin might be picking up, but the industry as a whole in in massive decline
            Epoch and CCBill disagree with you Paul. Are you calling them liars, or are you horribly and embarrassingly out of touch?

            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            I would love you to show how the industry isn't declining.
            Please do. Epoch and CCBill say the opposite.




            *Paul actually claimed this on another board. It amused me.

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            • Altwebdesign

              #231
              let me catch up here. .. .
              Fabian (nathan) has offered markham the chance to shoot for brazzers? or have i misunderstood ?

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              • Paul Markham
                Too old to care
                • Jun 2001
                • 52942

                #232
                Originally posted by Nathan
                Paul, the industry is not declining, the industry might be moving away from magazines and DVDs, but it is far from declining...

                Regarding the script and money.. slow down, you will get the script once we have chosen one, and you will get the money once we signed a contract...
                Prove the industry isn't declining. I know that the magazines industry and DVD industry has declined. The picture we all get of the Adult Internet is more and more people make less and less money. More people are leaving or looking for a new income to supplement their porn income. Ratios have been getting worse ever since the beginning of the Internet and only thing keeping sales going was the increase in traffic.

                Today the increase in traffic from core countries has leveled off and does not make up for the increase in traffic to free sites. Everyone who has posted about ratios has posted they a now far worse than they use to and actually getting traffic for many is harder.

                I have yet to see any proof from you, just words.

                In truth no one really knows and I doubt if CCBILL or Epoch would tell someone like Damian or even you.

                How about we try a poll on a few boards asking people to vote for their best year in porn? And whether their income is in the decline, ascend or level. But then we would have to know what it was in the first place.

                Thanks for explaining about the shoot. Can you explain it to BVF. He seems to think I should be shooting it.

                I like Porn Beer. old people that aren't in tune with mainstream culture or the younger generations probably didn't get it. you were trying to entertain and not just give out full length videos like everybody else. sure it was a bit dry in places - especially the jokes - but at least it was INNOVATIVE. who else is trying new things and attempting to innovate porn marketing? certainly not dinosaur Paul
                It was shot in his home and clearly showed he didn't earn a lot of money. Acting drunk would of been funny, being drunk isn't. It clearly shows that as a marketing man he's a failure, doesn't make a lot of money doing it and can't market himself very well.

                After I pointed out that shooting it in his home he changed locations. That shows he hadn't thought of the consequences of innovating this much. Now shooting in the pub.

                He was trying to be funny and the jokes as you point out weren't. He thinks it was funny, you think the jokes were a bit dry, dry humor or dry spots?

                His job here is too market himself to the industry and not surfers. So as the 2 are separate audiences they should be kept separate. And not shown to potential industry clients.

                As for marketing, I'm not a marketing man. As for innovating in the content market did that very well over the last 30 years. As shown on my site and by my longevity.



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                • DamianJ
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 15808

                  #233
                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  In truth no one really knows
                  I would have thought the billing companies would know? No?

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  and I doubt if CCBILL or Epoch would tell someone like Damian or even you.
                  Why wouldn't they tell me? Do you want Harmik's number? You can ask him yourself. I am sure, although I know him, he would tell you the same thing.

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  It was shot in his home and clearly showed he didn't earn a lot of money. Acting drunk would of been funny, being drunk isn't.
                  As I said, if you liked it, I would quit doing it. It's cool you thought I was really drunk though. I guess my degree in drama wasn't wasted.

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  After I pointed out that shooting it in his home he changed locations.
                  Everyone should listen to your advice. I've had 12 more views since moving location from that tawdry, disgusting flat I used to live in. Thanks!

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  His job here is too market himself to the industry and not surfers.
                  It's SO fucking sweet you don't think there are surfers here. And even sweeter you don't think it's a good idea to try something different. And even sweeter still you think that amusing ones peers is a bad idea.

                  It's astounding that along with not understanding the very definition of the word marketing, you are so clueless that you think posting content here aimed at surfers is a bad idea.

                  Either that or you're just trollin!

                  ;)
                  ;)
                  ;)

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  As for marketing, I'm not a marketing man.
                  Clearly. You are a lying man. It's nice you come clean now though.


                  Anyone got any idea where I can get 20 HD videos for 150 bucks. I've seen some from Markham, but I want videos where the girls aren't really obviously faking it and the shooter isn't just in it for the money. Thanks.

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                  • DamianJ
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 15808

                    #234
                    Originally posted by Altwebdesign
                    let me catch up here. .. .
                    Fabian (nathan) has offered markham the chance to shoot for brazzers? or have i misunderstood ?
                    Oh no, that's it. Fabian is going to send Paul a script for a shoot, then offer to pay him, then Paul will bottle it like a coward and admit he was lying just to get some people to click on his sig to buy his old self admitted no good content for 30 quid.

                    Still, 3k views.

                    The old fool knows how to wind up gfy, and that's a fact.

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                    • Cherry7
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3564

                      #235
                      So if understand correctly...

                      Nathan is paying for it and writing the script

                      Paul is shooting it

                      Damian will Market it.

                      They will all get drunk at the end of shoot party and kiss and make up....
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                      • DamianJ
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 15808

                        #236
                        Originally posted by Cherry7
                        So if understand correctly...

                        Nathan is paying for it and writing the script

                        Paul is shooting it

                        Damian will Market it.

                        They will all get drunk at the end of shoot party and kiss and make up....
                        Not at all.

                        Paul is pretending to be retired, whilst trolling GFY to get sig views in order to sell the old content that he said, and I quote, "isn't good enough anymore" and thought if he pretended he would shoot for Fabien it would develop into a 5 page thread with 3k plus views and some poor newb might click his sig and buy his 19 HD vids for 150 bucks.

                        Makes out like he is an idiot, but is actually a marketing genius.

                        He has no intention of actually doing it, he hates Fabien and all he stands for. He hates his organisation. It would be hilarious to think of him shooting for Fabian. Anyone that reads GFY knows that.

                        So, he pretends he will, gets all the views, then will say "LOL NOT REALLY HAHAHA".

                        It's very good trolling. We can all learn something.
                        Last edited by DamianJ; 03-01-2011, 06:04 AM.

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                        • Altwebdesign

                          #237
                          markham, you trolling or you gonna shoot the script?

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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #238
                            Originally posted by Altwebdesign
                            markham, you trolling or you gonna shoot the script?
                            To the best of my limited capabilities.

                            As no one has replied to my challenge re the size of the industry, here's a clue.

                            A little while back, someone bought Manwin for $110,000,000

                            Do you think Paul Raymond Publications, LFP, Goldstar, Swank, Crescent, Score, David Sullivan's porn company, Northern & Shell, Private, Penthouse, Playboy, Vivid, Wicked, Evil Angel and more would of sold for that figure?

                            And please no flame about times gone by. They were doing fine until the Internet decided it was better to give it away for free. The Adult Internet will NEVER make up for the hole it created.

                            Now think back to what Lensman sold his porn empire for. Nice for him. But this was in the good old days and it sold in business terms for very little. Even in the porn world.

                            Overall the industry is shrinking, even on the Internet regarding paysites it's shrinking. Whether that shrinkage will be taken up by dating and cams is anyones guess.



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                            • Altwebdesign

                              #239
                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                              To the best of my limited capabilities.

                              That mean you're gonna do it or were you reffering to trollin?
                              I think you should do it markham!

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                              • Altwebdesign

                                #240
                                also, just a thought.... maybe the girls can be eve laurence and amy reid, or even nessa devil and i can be the male star? just a thought!

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