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  • BVF
    Black Vagina Finder
    • Jan 2002
    • 13975

    #211
    Stop typing and start shooting something.

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    • Paul Markham
      Too old to care
      • Jun 2001
      • 52942

      #212
      Stop shooting and start typing.





      I will never be able to shoot something this good.
      Thankfully, I want to make money. Not get a disease.

      You should put your mask on the girls.
      Last edited by Paul Markham; 02-28-2011, 11:02 AM.



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      • BVF
        Black Vagina Finder
        • Jan 2002
        • 13975

        #213
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        Stop shooting and start typing.





        I will never be able to shoot something this good.
        Thankfully, I want to make money. Not get a disease.

        You should put your mask on the girls.
        You're STILL typing and not shooting huh?....I was out on the streets just today but I didn't find anything...But I'm out there on the grind...

        And let's see how many porn consumers have heard of BVF vs. Paul Markham?...

        Back in like '02 when I met you, I had a modicum of respect for you....But now, you're a has been who has been eclipsed by any chump with a camera and an internet connection.....Congrats.
        Last edited by BVF; 02-28-2011, 01:07 PM.

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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #214
          Originally posted by BVF
          You're STILL typing and not shooting huh?....I was out on the streets just today but I didn't find anything...But I'm out there on the grind...

          And let's see how many porn consumers have heard of BVF vs. Paul Markham?...

          Back in like '02 when I met you, I had a modicum of respect for you....But now, you're a has been who has been eclipsed by any chump with a camera and an internet connection.....Congrats.
          Not got the script, location, girl, camera or money. So not shooting yet.

          Who gives a fuck about people knowing my name? But with my name is 100,000s of magazines every month for decades I would say more know my name than yours. In fact no one knows your name. Only your nick. Do you ever show your face in your films?

          But who cares, it's about $$$$ not ego. Try being less arrogant.

          Don't remember meeting you, must of been one of the numerous people I met who I never bothered to remember. I do remember seeing some really fat guy in a BVF T Shirt who looked like he had a few too many fried chicken dinners.

          That sofa in the top picture features in a lot of your pictures, is it your home? Also a lot of the same location shots from what I assume is your home, on the site.
          Last edited by Paul Markham; 02-28-2011, 01:17 PM.



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          • BVF
            Black Vagina Finder
            • Jan 2002
            • 13975

            #215
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            Not got the script, location, girl, camera or money. So not shooting yet.

            Who gives a fuck about people knowing my name? But with my name is 100,000s of magazines every month for decades I would say more know my name than yours. In fact no one knows your name. Only your nick. Do you ever show your face in your films?

            But who cares, it's about $$$$ not ego. Try being less arrogant.

            Don't remember meeting you, must of been one of the numerous people I met who I never bothered to remember. I do remember seeing some really fat guy in a BVF T Shirt who looked like he had a few too many fried chicken dinners.

            That sofa in the top picture features in a lot of your pictures, is it your home? Also a lot of the same location shots from what I assume is your home, on the site.
            Those hundreds of thousands of magazines are now sitting in closets and in landfills...It means nothing as you didn't publish them...That's like the cameraman for the Leave It To Beaver show trying to yap to current cameramen who are currently in the trenches....I have hundreds of thousands of visitors to my site each month RIGHT NOW....And it doesn't have any magic join links or crappy porn that I'm trying to hock for 5 bucks a pop either.

            Also, years ago when I saw you at the show, I didn't tell you who I was..I was new to the game and I didn't want to just yap to any tom, dick and harry about it...I didn't want you to know nor remember me so don't feel bad about not remembering...I just happened to see you on the floor and said hello to a dude who ALSO wasn't using his real name had the nickname of "charly" back then...So if there was a really fat guy wearing a BVF T Shirt walking around, then I must commend him because he must have been a big fan since I've NEVER even created a BVF T-shirt...Also, if you remember him, then indirectly, you remembered ME without me even having to be there.....Plus, I've been exercising for a couple of years so I'm rather sexy and muscular and healthy as a fucking horse these days

            I don't need to show my face, as my dick is sufficient to make me some money.

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            • Jakez
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2004
              • 5656

              #216
              I rarely make it to page 5 of a thread, but you really get to see who someone is deep down inside. Seems like the more pages a thread gets to the more respect is lost for the people still posting in it because it turns into some name calling match.
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              • Paul Markham
                Too old to care
                • Jun 2001
                • 52942

                #217
                Originally posted by BVF
                Those hundreds of thousands of magazines are now sitting in closets and in landfills...It means nothing as you didn't publish them...That's like the cameraman for the Leave It To Beaver show trying to yap to current cameramen who are currently in the trenches....I have hundreds of thousands of visitors to my site each month RIGHT NOW....And it doesn't have any magic join links or crappy porn that I'm trying to hock for 5 bucks a pop either.
                Yes the good days of porn are long gone. Now it's got loads of people boasting about the number of people talking about the visitors to it's site and comparing it better to the number of magazines SOLD. As for visitors, that counts for 0. It's about $$$$$

                And today because of the Adult Internet's policy of giving things they try to sell, away for free. It's decimated. The Adult Internet has never made the money the other parts of the porn industry made and only fools itself it does.

                Don't you realise that I'm not having a go at the current cameramen in the trenches. I'm having a go at SPONSORS paying them so little. Don't you think it ironic in a time of falling sales, because the product isn't worth buying, Fabian can think he's a great payer paying $666.66 for a set and video scene outright? Mutt said his price is $500 to supply the scene. The present shooters have to suck it up.

                Of the magazines and video sides of porn. I'm the ONLY producer from the other sides of the business who has supplied his content direct to the Adult Internet and not only via a site. To my knowledge NO other freelance successful shooter has done the same. Maybe a few on a one off deal. The reason still is simple. Even in todays market the Internet doesn't pay enough. Still today the top guys will not work for what is paid here.

                Do they not prize top content high enough or not able to pay well enough? I think for many they can't afford it. For the few who can afford it, content isn't a high priority. Much better to load a site with low quality, sell it to affiliates and get 1,000 hits on a sample and maybe 1 sale.

                Manwin will pay me $3,000 and I will shoot the scene. Do I care if it's good enough? Not really ego isn't something that you or I can spend. $3,000 I can spend.

                Do I care if everyone listens to my advice? No. Because years ago I said going down the road you were was destined to harm the business.

                Also, years ago when I saw you at the show, I didn't tell you who I was..I was new to the game and I didn't want to just yap to any tom, dick and harry about it...I didn't want you to know nor remember me so don't feel bad about not remembering...I just happened to see you on the floor and said hello to a dude who ALSO wasn't using his real name had the nickname of "charly" back then...So if there was a really fat guy wearing a BVF T Shirt walking around, then I must commend him because he must have been a big fan since I've NEVER even created a BVF T-shirt...Also, if you remember him, then indirectly, you remembered ME without me even having to be there.....Plus, I've been exercising for a couple of years so I'm rather sexy and muscular and healthy as a fucking horse these days
                As for the "Charly" nick. Did I have the "Paul Markham T Shirt on? Never hid behind a nick or been to ashamed to show my face.



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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #218
                  Originally posted by Jakez
                  I rarely make it to page 5 of a thread, but you really get to see who someone is deep down inside. Seems like the more pages a thread gets to the more respect is lost for the people still posting in it because it turns into some name calling match.
                  That's very much the nature of GFY and some boards. It gets to name calling and flaming without any real constructive debate, or Bro calling for little reason.

                  The Adult Internet is in decline, the balance has been tipped between free and paid. It's now better for so many to not pay than it is for a few to pay.

                  Throughout the 10 years I've been here the only numbers that people talked about was the number of site visits to sales. Very few would quote the number of consumers to the number of sales. That's the number of people looking at a TGP gallery or today the number of views on a tube video. They are all porn consumers. Sadly today 0.001% are buyers.

                  Yes if a Tube converts on visits at 1-1,000. How many views does it need to get 1,000 to click the banner? Go to Pornhub to see the real ratios. In the beginning no one could afford to give away that much free porn. Today they can, so they will.

                  In the times that people ridicule, men had to buy to jerk off to porn 99% of the time. Even pirated videos cost the price of the tape. Today it costs nothing to view porn 24 hours and never pay.

                  The only solution lies inside the paysites. Not in putting up more free porn.


                  For the flamers. Today I feel a lot better. Last night I was very sick and must of eaten something Sunday that really upset my stomach and given me a fever.



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                  • DamianJ
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 15808

                    #219
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    We really have such different definitions of the word marketing.

                    My definition means you make something look good, worth having or using.

                    What does yours mean? Looking like a broke loser isn't even close.
                    Well, *my* definition is "Marketing is creating a desire for a product or service". Wiki's is: "Marketing is the process of performing market research, selling products and/or services to customers and promoting them via advertising to further enhance sales."

                    So, you're fucking horribly wrong either way.

                    Still, for a man that lies every day on the internet I'm not surprised.

                    Liar.

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #220
                      Originally posted by DamianJ
                      Well, *my* definition is "Marketing is creating a desire for a product or service". Wiki's is: "Marketing is the process of performing market research, selling products and/or services to customers and promoting them via advertising to further enhance sales."

                      So, you're fucking horribly wrong either way.

                      Still, for a man that lies every day on the internet I'm not surprised.

                      Liar.
                      So you think your Pornbeer videos are good marketing by selling yourself and your services. And will enhance your sales.

                      Isee it as ramblings of a drunk who thinks looking stupid is cool and who lives in a dump.

                      My mistake, sorry for that.

                      My job is "Photographer and Managing Director" from that I'm officially invalided. Which you flamed me for doing as I'm so rich. And then you flamed me for being broke. Which one is it?

                      Doing a few updates on the site isn't real work. Posting is a hobby. Retired officially isn't my title. Retired from real work is just a term for a person who does very little.

                      Eva is not sole owner and runner of the company. It takes her a few hours a week.
                      Last edited by Paul Markham; 03-01-2011, 12:56 AM.



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                      • DamianJ
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 15808

                        #221
                        Originally posted by Paul Markham


                        The only solution lies inside the paysites. Not in putting up more free porn.
                        You keep saying that.

                        Do you really think that all the paysites in the world are going to suddenly stop giving away content?

                        Originally posted by Paul Markham

                        For the flamers. Today I feel a lot better. Last night I was very sick and must of eaten something Sunday that really upset my stomach and given me a fever.
                        Good. Maybe you will be able to send out the sets and to do site updates you were meant to do yesterday in your Pretend Retirement (tm).

                        Fabian, when you gonna pay him?

                        This porn needs to be seen!

                        Check out this example to whet your appetite

                        http://www.tubecat.com/euro-teens-cl...42_f93e_2.html

                        Ooh, so sexy.

                        This is how you show girls not faking it at all. They don't look uncomfortable in the least.

                        WELL DONE PAUL!

                        I vote you do a masterclass at XBiz London. (Or they can book you to do it and give you free tickets, you can then boast about getting free tickets, and then not bother doing the talk and then boast about that too, just like you did about AOE!).
                        Last edited by DamianJ; 03-01-2011, 01:04 AM.

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #222
                          I've just remembered my mistake. Michael Ancher is also supplying content to websites. Now if Twistys and Only Tease wanted to go real top end there's the guy they need. Been my hero for decades and love his work. Learned I was wasting my time trying to go into that market and could never compete with him.



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                          • DamianJ
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 15808

                            #223
                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            So you think your Pornbeer videos are good marketing by selling yourself and your services. And will enhance your sales.
                            Where did I say that Porn Beer was a marketing advertising exercise for my marketing services Paul?

                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            Isee it as ramblings of a drunk who thinks looking stupid is cool and who lives in a dump.
                            That's pretty much what it is. It's content you see, for my site PornBeer which is an affiliate site. I get a few hundred bucks a month from that and it pays for some nights out. It's an unashamed rip off of diggnation and I do it with my oldest bestest friend for a laugh. That's all. It's not a showreel to pitch for the AD&D awards.

                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            My mistake, sorry for that.
                            It's OK. You are old and easily confused. I understand why you thought that I was trying to advertise my marketing consultancy by sitting on a couch drinking beer talking shit with my pal.

                            It's such an easy mistake to make.

                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            My job is "Photographer and Managing Director" from that I'm officially invalided.
                            As far as I know, at least in the UK, the state frowns upon people lying to get money. If you are an invalid, you cannot then work.

                            You pretend to be retired, yet state you were doing site updates and sending out shit to 'clients' yesterday.

                            Which is it?

                            Are you retired, so rich in your palace you don't need to worry about anything, and just post here to annoy people because it amuses you?

                            Are you pretending to be ill to sponge money from the Prague government? Obviously still doing site updates and generating money from your members, but at the same time taking state handouts from as a foreigner?

                            Or are you not retired, desperate for money because you don't have any credit or bank cards and trying to sell old pictures you have admitted yourself are not good enough anymore for 60 bucks to pay some bills?

                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            Doing a few updates on the site isn't real work.
                            I imagine the government would take a different view.

                            In the UK there is a dedicated phone number you can call to grass people up that are benefit frauds. Is there similar in Prague?

                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            Retired from real work is just a term for a person who does very little.
                            It's not. Retired means you stop working. It's black and white.

                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            Eva is not sole owner and runner of the company. It takes her a few hours a week.
                            Who said she was, love?

                            Bless you, getting all confused again.

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                            • Nathan
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3108

                              #224
                              Paul's mistake simply lies in the fact that he thinks the market is declining

                              But oh well..
                              "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                              - Charlie Munger

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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #225
                                Good back to the real debate.

                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                You keep saying that.

                                Do you really think that all the paysites in the world are going to suddenly stop giving away content?
                                No way. What they have to do is make joining more attractive than not joining. Offer something inside the site that can't be found for free, other than HD. Offer something that's different for the 100 or 1,000 other sites in their niche and style.

                                At the moment there are more reasons to not join a site than there are reasons to join a site. Proof is in the stats.
                                Good. Maybe you will be able to send out the sets and to do site updates you were meant to do yesterday in your Pretend Retirement (tm).
                                Didn't Eva do it?

                                Fabian, when you gonna pay him?

                                This porn needs to be seen!
                                Yes when is he?

                                Check out this example to whet your appetite

                                http://www.tubecat.com/euro-teens-cl...42_f93e_2.html

                                Ooh, so sexy.

                                This is how you show girls not faking it at all. They don't look uncomfortable in the least.

                                WELL DONE PAUL!
                                Eva shot it. But the whole scene sold over 50 times and the set 40 times on the stores alone. So $3500. Then magazines sales probably made $4,000 to $5,000. Double it to $15,000, because we shot 2 scenes that day, and you can see why we never shot a lot of custom, not any other top shooter. And these sales don't include the paysite sales. But as it's only one scene of 600 not much to talk about.

                                It's not about "Bro" points, it's about $$$$$. Could I of shot something better than Eva? Yes she was too lax with the girls. And to be honest I was always telling her. But we made money that day and it illustrates my point about faking. Too much of it is happening and considering what we pay girls we should tell them flat to do it properly or cum for real with some noise or fuck off home.

                                But the industry continues to churn out the same average content in the belief if we get enough clicks it will sell.

                                I vote you do a masterclass at XBiz London. (Or they can book you to do it and give you free tickets, you can then boast about getting free tickets, and then not bother doing the talk and then boast about that too, just like you did about AOE!).
                                I've done a few and sat on the panel of a few as well. The one you're talking about was moved back to Saturday and was after the show and the day I was flying home. All the others including ones at Telemedia I've made.

                                The problem of doing a master class is the first thing people have to learn is you can't shoot GOOD porn on a shoestring budget and if you could, YOU WON'T, because others will pay more. When you can shoot the level of Viv Thomas, Bill Wright, Jack Harrison, Steve Perry and more you go where the money is. Like me. Why didn't I shoot custom? The sponsors couldn't match what I earned elsewhere.

                                It's about $$$$$



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